Comment from Graeme Bird
Time September 14, 2008 at 11:57 am
Right Jim. The alarmist camp is dead from the neck up. But this doesn’t stop Tim Lamberts MAJOR-ME….(that is to say the beloved Professor Barry Brook….) from continuing with a power-load of circular reasoning.
Here he contradicts another thread he wrote. Which claimed that the question was why haven’t we cooled even more? Why have the temperatures held up? Then in this other thread he talks about El Nina and solar influences. He doesn’t think once about the oceans having accumulated a great amount of joules and still being relatively “warm” in this regard.
But nothing phases these guys and least of all Tim Lamberts Major-Me. He just keeps going like a combination between Uncle Fester and the eveready bunny. After much circular reasoning he announces this bizzare conclusion:
“Thus if the sun remains “out”, i.e., stuck for a long period in the current solar minimum, it can offset only about 7 years of CO2 increase.”
He says this yet he will not come on here and present a study that brings forth evidence for CO2-warming. He is assuming 3 degrees for a doubling. Total nonsense and flat our irrational. But he doesn’t so much as have any evidence for CO2-warming. He doesn’t know of any evidence for it, he cannot find anyone with such evidence. He doesn’t know anyone who could track such evidence down.
By his own reasoning this CANNOT be right. Since he is going on the air temperature alone. And we have had at least a 5% increase in CO2 since 1998. So why at least 2 years of cooling? If he used the Argos floats or the sea level as proxy for joules within the system, rather than merely air temperature, he might be able to make a case for some sort of humbler CO2 influence. But no he’s sticking with his ludicrous 3 degrees for a doubling based on nothing at all.
Imagine if this 3 degrees business were true? How fortunate we would be? We’d have our own thermostat. Our own ability to expand the tropical and subtropical zones to help us through the Landsheidt minimum. I’d like to believe this stuff only its rubbish. You put on your wishful thinking hat you might imagine one tenth of this slipping through the data and unable to be recognized. But if CO2-warming isn’t negative its probably even less than that.