Posted by: graemebird | November 26, 2008

Joseph Cambria: The Man Whom Logic Forgot.

Here is Giuseppe getting mixed up between core facts and sentiment as is usual for him over the last year or so. Alzheimer’s? One of the couzie-bros thinks so. He thinks its immensely sad. I don’t know one way or the other but I suspect moral failure plays a part here.

Lets see what Joseph (THE MAN WHOM LOGIC FORGOT) has to say and then we’ll have a closer look.

“Bird’s most recent conspiracy that he lifted off some truther website in the US and then used to harrass American college kids (until he was banned) has been laughed out of court by the WSJ.

The net result… there is as much chance of the Supreme court hearing the case of Obama’s birthplace as there is of Bird visiting a gay bar on Venus.

‘Natural Born’ Baloney Debunking the urban legend about the Supreme Court and Obama’s citizenship.

Normally this would be “Bottom Story of the Day” material, but lots of crazy rumors have been going around, albeit mostly on blogs and other Web sites of the far-right fringe. Last week, however, David Serchuk of Forbes.com rehearsed one of them, giving us an opportunity to set the record straight. Here’s Serchuk:

You’ve got to hand it to Philip J. Berg: he doesn’t give up easily. You might recall that Philadelphia attorney Berg tried, and failed, to halt the presidential election of Barack Obama on the grounds that he is not a native-born citizen. Game over, right? Wrong.
Berg filed a writ of certiorari to the U.S. Supreme Court in late October, asking that the highest court review the decision of the U.S. District Court in Pennsylvania. The latter court dismissed Berg’s claims because he lacked standing to bring them. Standing requires plaintiffs to prove they are directly affected by the issue at hand, with evidence of injury that is concrete and particular. In its decision the district court said Berg “does not, and we believe cannot, establish injury in fact.” It also dismissed his claims as frivolous.
Berg takes this in stride. His writ, he says, requires Obama and the Democratic National Council to respond by December 1. . . .
One of the pillars of Berg’s argument is that Obama doesn’t have a legally-valid U.S. birth certificate because he was born in Kenya . . .
In fairness to Serchuk, he doesn’t seem to take this seriously–but he doesn’t quite explain why it is nonsense. So, here goes.

In August Berg filed a lawsuit in Philadelphia’s federal trial court, alleging that Obama was not a “natural born citizen” and thus constitutionally ineligible to be president. No trial was held; on Oct. 24, the court summarily dismissed Berg v. Obama on the ground that Berg did not have standing to sue. (In fact, the judge who dismissed the case opined that Berg’s efforts to establish standing “are frivolous and not worthy of discussion.”)

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On Oct. 30, Berg filed a petition for a writ of certiorari–in laymen’s terms, he asked the Supreme Court to hear his appeal. (Note that contrary to Berg’s language, which Serchuk repeats, one does not “file a writ.” One files a petition, and the court decides whether to issue a writ.) On Oct. 31, according to Berg’s Web site, he filed a motion asking Justice David Souter for injunctive relief in the form of halting the following week’s election.

On Nov. 3, Souter denied the injunction. The next day, the election was held as scheduled. You might have read about it, it was in all the papers.

It is true that Berg’s petition for certiorari is still pending before the high court. It is also true that there is a deadline for responses from the defendants (including Obama) of next Monday, Dec. 1. The defendants, however, are under no obligation to respond, and there is no reason to think they will bother.

The probability that the court will actually grant certiorari is, in theory, greater than zero, but it is such a small number as to be incomprehensible to anyone within the ordinary range of intelligence. As Judge Peter Messitte notes in an article for the State Department’s eJournalUSA, the justices typically grant such petitions only for cases “raising particularly significant questions of law, and/or those where there is a division of legal authority, as where lower courts have produced conflicting interpretations of constitutional or federal law.”

An additional rumor, not repeated by Forbes.com’s Serchuk, is that the “response” that Obama is “required” to file next week consists of proof that he is a natural-born citizen. Those who make this claim seem to believe that cert. is two, two, two writs in one. In fact, the only question currently before the high court is whether to hear the appeal at all.

Even in the vanishingly unlikely event that the court does grant certiorari, it almost certainly would consider only the legal issue raised by the lower court’s ruling–namely, whether Berg has standing to sue. In the even more vanishingly unlikely event that the justices rule in his favor, the case would be returned to a trial judge for consideration of the factual allegations.

 

 

 

One Leo Denofrio has a pending petition for certiorari in a similar case that was dismissed by the New Jersey Supreme Court. His prospects for success are approximately equal to Berg’s, for the same reasons. We devoutly hope this is the last item we will ever have to write on this silly topic.

Rightio…. let’s get ready to debunk his next idiocy”

Right now just to make a few general points before picking it all apart micro-style. What is Cambria saying here? What does he imagine he’s debunked? I’ve said that Barry is an USURPER. Has Cambria debunked THAT? I don’t THINKso. 

What Cambria seems to be saying is that he agrees totally with the leftist soothsaying above. And this soothsaying says that these lawsuits aren’t going anywhere……. hence…… hence what? What does this prove??

Soothsaying that these lawsuits aren’t going anywhere is a debunkation of WHAT EXACTLY?

Its not a debunking of ANYTHING is it? Its a PUNT. Its a PUNT and thats all it is. I don’t know whether these two lawsuits will prevail. But there plenty more lawsuits where that comes from. But people taking a PUNT do not a debunking make.

Anyway. Lets go through it again:

“Bird’s most recent conspiracy that he lifted off some truther website in the US and then used to harrass American college kids (until he was banned) has been laughed out of court by the WSJ……. ”

WELL ACTUALLY NO IT HASN’T. CAMBRIA IS FACTUALLY WRONG ABOUT THIS AS WE SHALL SEE.

“…..The net result… there is as much chance of the Supreme court hearing the case of Obama’s birthplace as there is of Bird visiting a gay bar on Venus…… ”

CAMBRIA MAKING A PUNT. THESE MANY LAWSUITS MAY NOT SUCCEED ITS TRUE. BUT THAT PROVES NOTHING ABOUT THE CONSPIRACY TO GET AN USURPER IN OFFICE ONE WAY OR ANOTHER. IT WILL BE AN ACT OF INCREDIBLE BRAVERY FOR THE SUPREME COURT TO DO THE RIGHT THING HERE AND THEY MAY WELL DO THE WRONG THING INSTEAD.

‘Natural Born’ Baloney Debunking the urban legend about the Supreme Court and Obama’s citizenship.”

I DON’T THINK THE POOR SENILE CAMBRIA KNOWS WHAT HE THINKS HE’S PROVED HERE. DOES HE THINK HE HAS PROVED THAT THERE IS NO REQUIREMENT UNDER LAW TO BE A NATURAL BORN CITIZEN?

DOES HE THINK OBAMA IS A NATURAL BORN CITIZEN. IF THE CONFUSED CAMBRIA THINKS EITHER OF THESE TWO THINGS WE FIND THAT HIS QUOTATION LENDS NOTHING IN FAVOUR OF THESE BASELESS CAMBRIA BELIEFS. SEE I’VE GOT TO SURMISE WHAT CAMBRIA IS THINKING ON HIS BEHALF. BECAUSE HE IS NOT COMPETENT TO EXPLAIN HIMSELF AND HE DRIBBLES A LOT.

“Normally this would be “Bottom Story of the Day” material, but lots of crazy rumors have been going around, albeit mostly on blogs and other Web sites of the far-right fringe. Last week, however, David Serchuk of Forbes.com rehearsed one of them, giving us an opportunity to set the record straight.

LETS SEE IF THIS DUMB LEFTIST SETS THE RECORD STRAIGHT ABOUT THESE RUMOURS. MY BET IS THAT HE COMES UP WITH NOTHING WHATSOEVER THAT GOES AGAINST THE RUMOURS AT ALL. WILL HE COME UP WITH EVIDENCE THAT OBAMA IS NATURAL BORN? NO HE WON’T. HE’S FULL OF SHIT BECAUSE HE PROMISES SOMETHING AND FAILS TO DELIVER.

Here’s Serchuk:

You’ve got to hand it to Philip J. Berg: he doesn’t give up easily. You might recall that Philadelphia attorney Berg tried, and failed, to halt the presidential election of Barack Obama on the grounds that he is not a native-born citizen. Game over, right? Wrong.
Berg filed a writ of certiorari to the U.S. Supreme Court in late October, asking that the highest court review the decision of the U.S. District Court in Pennsylvania. The latter court dismissed Berg’s claims because he lacked standing to bring them. Standing requires plaintiffs to prove they are directly affected by the issue at hand, with evidence of injury that is concrete and particular. In its decision the district court said Berg “does not, and we believe cannot, establish injury in fact.” It also dismissed his claims as frivolous.
Berg takes this in stride. His writ, he says, requires Obama and the Democratic National Council to respond by December 1. . . .
One of the pillars of Berg’s argument is that Obama doesn’t have a legally-valid U.S. birth certificate because he was born in Kenya . . .
In fairness to Serchuk, he doesn’t seem to take this seriously–but he doesn’t quite explain why it is nonsense. So, here goes.

NOW THE AUTHOR (NOT SERCHUK BUT THE FELLOW WHO IS QUOTING SERCHUK) IS MAKING ANOTHER FALSE PROMISE. HE IS PROMISING TO REFUTE THE IDEA THAT OBAMA WAS BORN IN KENYA. WE WILL SEE THAT HE DOES NOT DELIVER ON THIS PROMISE.

In August Berg filed a lawsuit in Philadelphia’s federal trial court, alleging that Obama was not a “natural born citizen” and thus constitutionally ineligible to be president. No trial was held; on Oct. 24, the court summarily dismissed Berg v. Obama on the ground that Berg did not have standing to sue. (In fact, the judge who dismissed the case opined that Berg’s efforts to establish standing “are frivolous and not worthy of discussion.”)

RIGHT SO FAR. AND AN OBVIOUS BIT OF IDIOCY FROM THE JUDGE. SINCE ANY AMERICAN CITIZEN OUGHT TO HAVE BEEN HELD TO HAVE STANDING ON THIS VITAL MATTER.

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On Oct. 30, Berg filed a petition for a writ of certiorari–in laymen’s terms, he asked the Supreme Court to hear his appeal. (Note that contrary to Berg’s language, which Serchuk repeats, one does not “file a writ.” One files a petition, and the court decides whether to issue a writ.)

TYPICAL DUMB-LEFT NITPICKING. THE FELLOW HAS NO CASE WHATSOEVER, AND WILL FAIL TO LIVE UP TO HIS RASH PROMISES. SO HE NITPICKS ON TERMINOLOGY.

On Oct. 31, according to Berg’s Web site, he filed a motion asking Justice David Souter for injunctive relief in the form of halting the following week’s election.

RIGHT SO FAR.

On Nov. 3, Souter denied the injunction. The next day, the election was held as scheduled. You might have read about it, it was in all the papers.

RIGHT. SOUTER OUGHT TO HAVE HALTED IT. BUT THEN AGAIN IF THE EVIDENCE HADN’T OF PANNED OUT IT WOULD INDEED HAVE HARMED BARRY GREATLY. SO THATS NOT OPEN AND SHUT JUDGE ABUSE. BUT LEGALLY THAT COULD HAVE GONE EITHER WAY.

It is true that Berg’s petition for certiorari is still pending before the high court.

 

RIGHT. AND THAT FACT TOTALLY UNDERMINES CAMBRIA IDIOCY AND THE IDIOCY OF THE FELLOW WRITING THE ARTICLE. THE COURT CASES ARE GOING AHEAD. SO WHATS THIS DUMB LEFTY PROVEN? NOTHING AT ALL. CAMBRIA HAS GLOMMED ONTO A BIG SHAREHOLDING OF FUCKING ZERO.

It is also true that there is a deadline for responses from the defendants (including Obama) of next Monday, Dec. 1.

 

RIGHT THERE IS A FUCKING DEADLINE. SO THERE IS A COURT CASE IN THE WORKS AND BARRY HAS TO MAKE THIS DEADLINE. HE’S SPENT 800 000 USD AVOIDING SHOWING ANY FUCKER HIS BIRTH CERTIFICATE. AND SOUTER NOW DEMANDS HIS BIRTH CERTIFICATE.

The defendants, however, are under no obligation to respond, and there is no reason to think they will bother.

SO SUPREME COURT JUSTICE SOUTER DEMANDS HIS BIRTH CERTIFICATE. AND HE’S SAYING THEY DON’T HAVE TO RESPOND????? WELL HE WON’T GO TO JAIL IF HE DOESN’T RESPOND. BUT THE ISSUE IS NOT WHETHER HE WILL GO TO JAIL OR NOT. THIS PROVES THAT THIS AUTHOR CAMBRIA IS QUOTING IS A COMPLETE FUCKWIT. JUST BECAUSE BARRY WON’T GO TO JAIL THERE AND THEN IF HE FAILS TO SHOW UP WITH HIS BIRTH CERTIFICATE ON DECEMBER 1 DOESN’T MEAN ANYTHING AT ALL. HE SHOULD GO TO JAIL. BUT THATS NOT THE CONCERN HERE. WE WANT TO KNOW IF HE’LL BE SWORN IN AS PRESIDENT IN JANUARY. IF HE FAILS TO SHOW UP WITH HIS BIRTH CERTIFICATE THIS MIGHT AFFECT THAT PROSPECT NEGATIVELY. HERE WE HAVE ONLY SOOTHSAYING FRON THE AUTHOR. NO REASONING. ONLY SOOTHSAYING.

The probability that the court will actually grant certiorari is, in theory, greater than zero, but it is such a small number as to be incomprehensible to anyone within the ordinary range of intelligence.

 

HE’S JUST BEING AN IDIOT. SOUTER IS GOING TO BE PISSED IF THEY DON’T SHOW UP WITH A CERTIFICATE. AND HE SURELY HAS MANY OPTIONS AVAILABLE TO HIM. SO THIS IS MINDLESS SOOTHSAYING. HE CANNOT POSSIBLY KNOW WHAT SOUTER WILL CHOOSE TO DO IN A SITUATION FOR WHICH THERE IS NO PRECEDENT.

As Judge Peter Messitte notes in an article for the State Department’s eJournalUSA, the justices typically grant such petitions only for cases “raising particularly significant questions of law, and/or those where there is a division of legal authority, as where lower courts have produced conflicting interpretations of constitutional or federal law.”

THIS GUY IS A REAL FUCKWIT. SINCE THIS CASE IS DESCRIBED PERFECTLY BY THE ABOVE.

THIS CASE RAISES “…. particularly significant questions of law, AND THIS CASE IS ONE WHERE there is a division of legal authority, as where lower courts have produced conflicting interpretations of constitutional or federal law.”

An additional rumor, not repeated by Forbes.com’s Serchuk, is that the “response” that Obama is “required” to file next week consists of proof that he is a natural-born citizen. Those who make this claim seem to believe that cert. is two, two, two writs in one. In fact, the only question currently before the high court is whether to hear the appeal at all.

HE’S REFERRING TO SOME MINOR POINT WHERE SOME FOLKS THINK THAT BARRY’S FAILURE TO RESPOND AMOUNTS TO A LEGAL CONFESSION OF THE SUBSTANCE OF THE CHARGES. THATS A SMALL MATTER. IT MIGHT BE TRUE. BUT ITS NOT ALL THAT IMPORTANT.

Even in the vanishingly unlikely event (MINDLESS SOOTHSAYING) that the court does grant certiorari, it almost certainly would consider only the legal issue raised by the lower court’s ruling–namely, whether Berg has standing to sue. (MINDLESS SOOTHSAYING).

 

IF SO THIS IS RIDICULOUS. SINCE FIRSTLY BERG CLEARLY HAS STANDING AS A US CITIZEN. AND SECONDLY THE CONSTITUTION FORBIDS A USURPER BE SWORN IN AND MAKES ALL SORTS OF PROVISIONS FOR JUST THIS EVENT.

In the even more vanishingly unlikely event (MINDLESS SOOTHSAYING) that the justices rule in his favor, the case would be returned to a trial judge for consideration of the factual allegations. (RIGHT. AND THEN BERG WOULD LIKELY WIN. AND IF BERG WON THERE WOULD BE SOME CHANCE OF GETTING RID OF THE USURPER).

 

 

One Leo Denofrio has a pending petition for certiorari in a similar case that was dismissed by the New Jersey Supreme Court. His prospects for success are approximately equal to Berg’s, for the same reasons.

BUT THE STUPID CUNT HASN’T MADE A CASE IN THE FIRST PLACE. AS WE HAVE SEEN HE HAD NO “REASONS”. ITS ALL STUPIDITY AND TAKING A PUNT.

We devoutly hope this is the last item we will ever have to write on this silly topic.

WHATS SILLY ABOUT IT? STUPID CUNT DIDN’T COME UP WITH ANYTHING. DIDN’T SHOW THAT BARRY WAS A NATURAL BORN CITIZEN. DIDN’T SHOW THAT THE CONSTITUTION WAS NOT GOING TO BE ADHERED TO. AND JUST BASICALLY PROVED TO EVERYONE SMARTER THAN CAMBRIA THAT HE IS A STUPID CUNT. HE JUST MADE A FEW PREDICTIONS IS ALL HE DID.

Rightio…. let’s get ready to debunk his next idiocy

WHY NOT CONCENTRATE ON FINDING ABOUT THIS ISSUE FIRST UP CAMBRIA YOU STUPID CUNT.

WE SEE THAT BOTH PETITIONERS STILL HAVE THEIR CASES IN THE RING. IT IS JUSTICE THOMAS THAT HAS DENOFRIO’S CASE DOCKETED. AND JUSTICE THOMAS IS NOT GOING TO TAKE LIGHTLY THE IDEA THAT SOME COMMUNIST BLOW-IN IS TRYING TO FLOUT THE CONSTITUTION. SO THAT CASE IS UP IN THE AIR.

THEN THERE ARE A NUMBER OF OTHER CASES. INCLUDING THE ONE THAT ALAN KEYES HAS PENDING. THATS THREE PENDING AND I’M SUPPOSING THERE IS A BUNCH MORE AS WELL.

THE ISSUE IS WHETHER BARRY IS ELIGIBLE OR NOT. YOU USE THE VARIOUS SPECIFICS OF THE LEGAL MAKEWORK PROCESS TO TRY AND BRING MATTER WITHIN YOUR LEGAL FRAMEWORK RATHER THAN HAVE BLATANT ILLEGALITY GOING ON. 

WELL THATS WHAT AN HONEST JUDGE WOULD DO ANYHOW.

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Responses

  1. Bird,

    Obama doesn’t have a deadline for showing his birth certificate. They have a deadline if they want to respond to the legal matter of whether the case should be heard or not.

  2. Yes he HAS got a deadline. The point is that if he does not show his birth certificate by the deadline he won’t be thrown in jail.

    That doesn’t mean that its not going to piss Suitor off bigtime and make some of the slower amongst us finally get suspicious when he doesn’t come through. Souter has given him a deadline. So thats a deadline that he has since Souter gave him a deadline. Hence he has a deadline by virtue of the fact that Souter gave him one.

    Meanwhile these cases are all still pending.

  3. I agree there is a deadline its just not for what you think it is.

  4. Right. So you said he didn’t have a deadline. Now you say he has a deadline. Which is what I’m saying. So we agree that he’s got a deadline. And Souter has certainly requested his birth certificate. Just because the author Taranto has excluded that fact doesn’t mean that the request hasn’t been made.

  5. Can you read. Lets state what I said again. I’ll go through it slowly.

    “Obama doesn’t have a deadline for showing his birth certificate.”

    ie. He might have a deadline but not one for showing his birth certificate. Which I make clearer in the next sentence.

    “They have a deadline if they want to respond to the legal matter of whether the case should be heard or not.”

    Its a court of review it doesn’t decide matters of evidence but of law.

  6. “Souter has certainly requested his birth certificate. ”

    This is what we don’t agree on. The repondents have a right to respond and if they wish to do so must do so by Dec 1. However they aren’t responding to the fact of the case but the law of whether it should have been dismissed by the lower court.

    Seriously you have to stop listening to uniformed wingnuts.

  7. Right. But you don’t know that he didn’t request it? I mean it would be the natural thing to do right?

    But I see where you are going with this. The only formal thing thats locked in is this deadline to respond. The commonsense thing to do would be to advise them to respond and show up with the birth certificate. Since they would have no basis to argue that the matter ought be dismissed without it.

    What you’ve got to get your head around is the heirachy of all this. People are getting confused and beginning to think that some failure of process can make a usurper a non-usurper. But this is not the case. The Usurpers status as usurper is a matter of fact or falsehead in terms of REALITY.

    Now we all know that the lawyers have sorted this gigantic and hopelessly wasteful make-work-scheme for themselves. And it would be pretty flattering to their ego to think that all reality turns on their bullshitartistry, obstructionism and graft. But if this fellow is an Usurper, he is so independent of contemporary process shams and shenanigans. So the real thing to figure out is if he is a usurper….. which he is…..

    … and then we find out how to take him down as a secondary matter.

  8. Actually I think they could waive around a birth certificate but it would be ignored for the purposes of the decision which is not about it.

  9. “Bird still can’t get it through his thick skull that this is not a demand to produce a birth certificate.”

    Thats bullshit Edney. The deadline to respond is what the deadline is about right?

    I got that. So there is no separate deadline to show up with his birth certificate right? I got that also.

    But unless Souter is a complete legal nihilist, rather than an activist judge, he would have requested that they show up with his birth certificate. You don’t know that he hasn’t right? I would suspect that he had. Because if he doesn’t want to see his certificate then the fact is he doesn’t want to know.

    So yeah I got your point. Formally speaking the idea is for them to show up to make an affirmative case why this matter ought to be dismissed or contested. But if they don’t make that deadline and there is no certificate then for Souter to turn around and dismiss the matter anyway is going to reveal him as a career-long sham.

    Perhaps all his New York social set mates will think well of him in this case. But who knows. It will be an outright sham for him to show up. not get to see a birth certificate, not get any response from the other crowd, and then dismiss the matter anyhow.

    He may well do it. But that would be an awesome act of bending over for another branch of the government.

  10. “Actually I think they could waive around a birth certificate but it would be ignored for the purposes of the decision which is not about it.”

    Now you are just being silly fella. LIke Souters going to have the birth certificate at his disposal. And he’s going to studiously avoid looking at it on the basis of ……….. what.

    On the basis that you’ve got some wishful thinking about process exactitude on the go.

  11. “Non native title land to me should be simply auctioned off to the highest bidder.”

    He’s an incredibly persistent dumbass our Mark. He keeps on expressing his belief without giving a sound reason for it and without reference to the libertarian principles of homesteading.

  12. Graeme –
    You seem to have a deep rooted hatred for JC. Why?

  13. No no. He’s just somehow gone of the rails in the last 6 months to a year.

    When I first showed up in Ozblogistan he was studiously considered in everything he said. And people were always hanging shit on him. Now he’s more on the front foot. He’s taken on something of my outer style. But whats happened is he’s de-coupled this posture from his former thoughtfulness. And one wonders if he’s still able to think things through with anything approaching sound methodology.

  14. Now you are just being silly fella. LIke Souters going to have the birth certificate at his disposal. And he’s going to studiously avoid looking at it on the basis of ……….. what.

    On the basis that his job is to asses whether Berg should be granted an appeal to determine if he should have the right to sue. Appeals are decision on the law not on fact generally. Determining the veracity of the document, calling witnesses – ie determining the fact of the case are not part of this decision. My understanding is that Berg has multiple points against Obama so even if he did sight a valid birth certificate this wouldn’t clear up the matter.

    I’m not sure I’m right in ever specific as I am not a lawyer but I think its generally right. Go ask SL or someone with some legal training.

  15. Oh come of it!!! Have you ever been to court? These people are not robots man. And there is not some hallowed principle of procedure exactitude that we are talking about now.

    Its quite OK and proper that a bit of commonsense can be shown from time to time. Now he’s not going to have said “For the love of God man, show us your fucking birth certificate and stop being a moron”

    But on the other hand its very likely that he would request that they show up with it. It would be a matter most strange if they didn’t. Dudes don’t spend 800 000USD trying to deny doing the obvious and showing the god damned birth certificate and the judges not make some statement about it.

    You’ve lossed your mind Edney.

    Believe me. There is no procedural principle or steps locked in stone that would prevent a judge saying, “For goodness sakes. The next time I see your crowd I would advise you strongly that you bring the birth certificate in question”

    Judges can get really pissed when you waste the courts time or if you hold up the workings of matters on the basis of silly technicalities.

    I don’t where you are getting your understanding of the court system Edney. But you are being one complete fuckwit if you think its just strict procedure and every cunt acting in some sort of robotic mindless way.

    They act in a hopelessly foolish way. Since it is basically a money-spinner for the legal classes. But this is not some matter where these robots are saying to themselves…….. Input Input. Must not ask for birth certificate. Process step 6. More input Will Rogers. Process step 7 must follow step 6. Input Input Input.

    You are really being a dumb bastard you know.

  16. Bird I have been in court. We will see. Anyway the respondents have waived their right to respond if you look at the docket from SCOTUS.

    http://origin.www.supremecourtus.gov/docket/08-570.htm

    Personally I think Obama could be setting up every wingnut conspiracy theorist for an all time sucker punch. Let them whip themselves into a frenzy start attracting some media attention about why he hasn’t presented a real birth certificate and then rock up in court with the real thing and let them look like the racist nut jobs they are.

  17. Best explanation (following 2 you tube videos) I’ve seen for the total media blackout of what is the single greatest news event and domestic threat — let’s call it OBAMAGATE — since the outbreak of the American Civil War and for the sincere prayers of the American people that the United States Supreme Court — let’s call it OUR LAST HOPE — now to have the courage to save our great nation as we have come to know it:

  18. In what way is asking a President-elect to prove that he is Constitutionally eligible for the position at all racist?

  19. By the way, the auxiliary point that I forgot to make in that message was this: liberals have already made it perfectly clear that any and every criticism of The One will attract an automatic accusation of “racism”, like the good little censorious commissars they are. The next four years will be very helpful in unveiling the essential totalitarianism of liberalism and all liberals, and hopefully giving non-liberals a concrete basis for actually opposing liberalism root and branch.

  20. “Personally I think Obama could be setting up every wingnut conspiracy theorist for an all time sucker punch.”

    Edney places the race card hey? Look Edney it is NOT OK to elect a communist/Wahabi agent into the top job in the Republic. I know that might seem kind of quaint to you but its NOT OK. its like letting blue-hats rape African sheilas that they are supposed to be looking after. It comes under the heading of NOT OK no matter how many people think it is OK.

    Now your rope-a-dope theory. Why didn’t you come up with it earlier. Yes there will almost definitely be a lesser-scandal-tripwire. But you don’t risk the Presidency and accumulate 800 000 in legal fees if matters are perfectly in order.

    If we get the birth certificate and it says the father is Malcolm Little or Malcolm X then he will have two American parents. And while it won’t be enough to make him eligible it will be enough of a surprise to delay matters. Yet such an outcome would add further weight to him being of divided loyalties and essentially the Manchurian candidate.

  21. “Anyway the respondents have waived their right to respond if you look at the docket from SCOTUS.”

    Which of course means that there is a reasonable chance that this will go ahead. No-ones going to be incurious enough to bury this one. If that case doesn’t go ahead another will.

  22. What is this bet-mania? YOU’VE GOT TO LEARN TO THINK!!!!!

    Look at that pathetic article of Taranto’s that JC copied. There is no thought there. There is nothing to say that Barry is eligible. There is only soothsaying.

    When did you dumb leftists start substituting soothsaying for reason? Its just unbelievably lame? What will it prove if he manages to scam a whole year in the job? It won’t prove anything you silly gook cunt. Now lift your game for the sake of Ahura Mazda.

  23. In what way is asking a President-elect to prove that he is Constitutionally eligible for the position at all racist?

    Because if he wasn’t black he wouldn’t be asked to prove it.

  24. Really? On what basis do you say that? You certainly haven’t provided any reason to think so, and the people who are mounting this legal challenge haven’t said anything about Obama’s race at all.

    So what we are left with is a completely unfalsifiable claim that is, in fact, equally epistemologically valid to any claim that opponents of Obama’s policies generally are only motivated by animus towards his race, or whatever. Which is undoubtedly where this was leading anyway.

    But this is par for the course with liberalism. Opponents of liberalism aren’t simply people who hold different ideas from different premises. No, they must be accused as “racists”, “bigots”, psychologically unstable, and so on for being non-liberals.

  25. Stop delivering a standard rant Steve I never said any thing about opponents of his policies, argue the fact not some wild extrapolation.

    I’m talking about the people who refuse to believe his birth certificate, a notice in the local paper at the time announcing his birth, and verification by the Hawaii record keepers that he was born in Hawaii, and persist with this rubbish.

    I’m sorry but he’s well and truly proved any reasonable suspicions about his birth all that left is maniacs who obviously have some pathological agenda against him.
    This is not about people who hold different ideas. Its about people who are blind to some very obvious facts.

    When you try to understand why they insist first black president is not American in the face of presented facts, its hard to go past the conclusion of racism.

  26. “Because if he wasn’t black he wouldn’t be asked to prove it.”

    Thats what you said you lying racist cunt now justify it.

  27. Hurry up Edney you stupid cunt!!!!!

    Lets have some justification here. He’s obviously not born in Hawaii. Or he’d HAND OVER THE BIRTH CERTIFICATE you stupid fucking cunt.

    He wouldn’t spend 800 000 in legal fees to not hand it over.

    So justify what you are claiming.

    “Because if he wasn’t black he wouldn’t be asked to prove it.”

    Thats you claim. Justify it.

  28. Berg is a lifelong member of the

    “NAACP
    The National Association for the Advancement of Colored People (NAACP), a civil rights organization for ethnic minorities in the united States.”

    Its pretty clear he’s part Negro himself. Alan Keyes has filed. He’s Negro as well.

    This is a concern for anyone who doesn’t want a usurper in the Presidency and the final destruction of the constitution, which will presage a brutal and cynical period of lawlessness and public thieving, mad scrambles for power and corrupt practices out in the open. That is to say a consolidation of what we’ve seen lately and even worse.

    McCain has filed. There is an explosion of law action now. And its because he’s a usurper and likely a foreign plant.

  29. Alan Keyes is black obviously, Phil Berg doesn’t appear to be but could be.

    EDNEY STAY ON TRACK. YOU MADE THE FILTHY LYING CLAIM. JUSTIFY IT.

  30. berg is an obvious jewish name

    NO ITS NOT. BERG IS IN NO WAY A DISTINCTLY JEWISH NAME AT ALL.

    …..and lots of jews were involved in the NAACP

    WHEN? NAME SOME IN 2008? DON’T MAKE SHIT UP.

  31. Edney you made a claim. Its an idiotic claim. Its a filthy claim. Its a lying claim. And you refuse to come up with some reason why you would make it.

    Don’t lets have the stupid kids filibuster that lie away on the basis that they will support a communist come hell or high water.

    Don’t get distracted. Back the claim up or withdraw it.

  32. Well at least you’ve given us a bit of a head start as to how you dishonest leftist cunts are going to handle this issue when it blows up.

    If there is even one of the several matters under dispute that checks out this will be a trigger for a shitrain of defamatory accusations of racism for not wanting to see the rule of law totally defiled.

    Whereas in reality Barry has to prove that he is a US citizen, that he was born in Hawaii AND that he is a natural born citizen, even one aspect of these matters being right will be held to be the whole matter in its entirety. And any gainsaying that will proceed under a shitrain of accusations of people being an Uncle Tom. And if they are white a racist.

    So Keyes and Thomas are going to cop all this flack and everyone else too.

  33. No I just heard someone claiming it and haven’t had it confirmed.

    But he ought to file. Also he’s been filed against. Being as he was born in Panama. But thats not so much the cut and dried case.

    Now have you some sort of argument for Barry’s eligibility. Given that he’s absorbed hundreds of thousands of dollars in legal fees when anyone actually eligible would have simply posted a valid birth certificate.

    Lets have that argument Edney and do try not to TELL FUCKING LIES!!!!

  34. In mitigation for your bad looks, rotten behaviour, and appalling character I can say that time and time again I have proven that you are in fact INCAPABLE of reasoned argument.

    How did you get to be so fucking dumb?

    We can easily sort this out. There are three types of people. Three subsets. Three subsets with regards to their eligibility to be President.

    1. There are those people that clearly ARE eligible.

    2. There are those people that clearly ARE NOT eligible.

    3. Then there are those people who are difficult cases. Like McCain for example. His case could go either way and its a matter for historical research I would say.

    But in any case why are people like you and Taranto so dense as to be unable to compute even THIS most basic analysis?

    You are a fuckwit mate. And your dumbness shines through every time you attempt to argue anything.

    Plus your last post contains a number of lies so it won’t last long.

  35. I’m not wiping them because they are stupid Edney. I’m wiping them because you tell lies.

    NOW DON’T GET DISTRACTED YOU DUMB PIGFUCKER. Lets have that coherent argument.

    A Venn diagram and three subsets.
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

    Tosh yes we need to legalize that dope and let the black man rise or get high or whatever. But if you are talking about the Presidency you need a constitutional amendment for it. I think its a good law. You might think its a bad law. The point is IT IS THE LAW and Barry cannot qualify under it.

    He comes under the subset which says he cannot be President. He doesn’t come under the line-ball subset unless he comes up with a new daddy and not really even then.

    If it turns out that his dad is Malcolm Little or Malcolm X then I could see how the court could fudge matters in his favour. If not I cannot see how the judges are going to be able to argue that he can be President. No matter how much many of them would want to.

  36. “Yeah Bird what is it that you want to hold the black man down?”

    Let the black man get high I sez. My choices for President were Ron Paul and Alan Keyes. The time before that when Alan Keyes ran in 2000 I was for him then too.

    But none of you racists nor your racist mates pretending to be centre-rightists would have been for Keyes in a blue fit.

    There are plenty of black people who could be put in a lot of these jobs. But you would not be for them. You would find fault with them.

    Obama’s a communist and you will make a complete fuckwit of yourself attempting to defend him.

    But what you won’t do is come up with a coherent argument in favour of his eligibility.

  37. don’t be hatin the brutha no more G-man
    he done you no wrong

    chill out and listen G-man

    http://au.youtube.com/watch?v=1SN7Pko_jCM

  38. I always liked your work Tosh. You were a class act. But what-have-you-done-for-me-lately?

  39. “He was born the the USA you Stupid moron. My god you are thick.”

    You are lying about that. The Hawaiians have confirmed that they have his birth certificate. You see you know that. And yet you choose to lie about it. No way would he not show up with his birth certificate if he didn’t have something to hide.

    So go again. And this time have an actual argument. His grandmother says he was born in Kenya. You say he was born in the USA. His grandmother says she was present at the birth. You make no such claim.

    One of you is lying and I think its you you pigfucker.

  40. “He was born the the USA you Stupid moron. My god you are thick.”

    You are lying about that. The Hawaiians have confirmed that they have his birth certificate. You see you know that. And yet you choose to lie about it. No way would he not show up with his birth certificate if he didn’t have something to hide.

    So go again. And this time have an actual argument. His grandmother says he was born in Kenya. You say he was born in the USA. His grandmother says she was present at the birth. You make no such claim.

    One of you is lying and I think its you you pigfucker.

  41. You do know the difference between an argument and a lying assertion right Edney?

    We didn’t want any sort of assertion. We wanted an argument. A coherent argument in favour of his eligibility.

    As stated before the Hawaiians have his birth certificate. Thats all they are saying.

    So how can it be that he was born in Hawaii. Only something really bizarre like the Malcolm X theory could account for his behaviour if he was born in Hawaii.

  42. So we know that the Hawaiians have the birth certificate and have sealed it. Take it from there.

    See you are a bullshit-artist.

  43. We have two theories right.

    1. Some massive scandal to do with his birth certificate.

    2. The confirmation that his grandmother is not lying.

    But you have another theory. And that theory is that they have the birth certificate and all is normal and good and this is a fellow who likes throwing hundreds of thousands of dollars down the toilet for no reason at all.

    See you are an idiot Edney. You are a moron.

    And by extension this phoney-Conservative Taranto is an idiot too.

  44. He grandmother may not be lying she may have been confused. Read the transcript.
    http://devvy.net/pdf/nov08/exhibit4.pdf
    The idiot begins by saying he’s talking about her son, a couple of times, before later correcting and then goes on to say he’s coming to Kenya to see the place of birth (ie leading question) which she then says she will show him. God she probably has no idea or things he want to see where he son was born.

    My god you have no standards do you. You’ll deny a valid birth certificate is true, but believe some dodgy radio interview with completely leading questions.

  45. So you’ve got this theory going that she is confused. After all she is a black person right? And your view would be that these funny old black people get so confused that they don’t know where their grandson is born.

    But putting that all aside where is the evidence that he was born in the US?

    She might be confused but thats not evidence that he was born in the US. Supposing an old person gets confused? That doesn’t do anything to make me born in the US or anywhere else?

    You see you are just so fucking stupid mate. No coherent argument to be found.

    NOW WE KNOW THE HAWAIIANS HAVE THE BIRTH CERTIFICATE RIGHT EDNEY YOU DROOLING RETARD RIGHT?

    So lets go over it again:

    We have two theories right.

    1. Some massive scandal to do with his birth certificate.

    2. The confirmation that his grandmother is not lying.

    But you have another theory. And that theory is that they have the birth certificate and all is normal and good and this is a fellow who likes throwing hundreds of thousands of dollars down the toilet for no reason at all.

  46. I just read that transcription again. There is no evidence that the guy ever translates the bit where he corrects it to her grandson. Its total shit and then at the end she just say she was there when obama was born. Not Barrack Obama II. Obama the fucking family name.

    I mean really that’s so lame you have to be a real dumb to be taken in by that.

  47. See we’ve proved that you were lying. Since you claimed that he was born in the US.

    Asked to justify this baseless claim you say that this black woman gets confused when you ask her where her grandson was born and you EDNEY know better than her, because after all she could be confused but you aren’t.

    Do you see what a complete fuckwit you are.

    CAN ANYONE ELSE HELP EDNEY OUT HERE?

    Edney has lied and said that Barry was born in the US. This despite the fact that he knows that the Hawaiians have the certificate and that they have sealed it.

    But he just continues to lie about it.

    When you have to meet eligibility for a job YOU MUST BE BOTH WILLING AND ABLE TO PROVE ELIGIBILITY.

    Thats as crucial as it is obvious. If Obama is a closet US born citizen he would still be ineligible since this would mean he was unwilling to prove his eligibility.

  48. So we have proved that you were lying right Edney.

    WE BOTH SURELY AGREE THAT YOU WERE LYING RIGHT?

    Bearing in mind that you and I both knew that the Hawaiians had the birth certificate and have sealed it right?

  49. So we have in fact proved you were lying right?

    In your view do the Hawaiians have the birth certificate or do they not?

    So you would agree that either there must be some vital scandal on this birth certificate right? That if he was born in Hawaii that it must contain some other scandalous information right?

    But no. Since you are indeed a proven idiot you are going to claim that its fine and OK and according to Hoyles on the basis that black people get confused.

  50. Have you read the transcript the guy asks about her son and the reply is “I was there when Obama was born.” You are right she’s not confused she’s been asked a different question about her son which she has correctly answered.

  51. Whats that got to do with anything?

    You know the Hawaiians have got the birth certificate right? And you do think its credible that the bills are stacking up in the hundreds of thousands right?

    Your hypothesis that black ladies get confused and are too stupid to know where the WHITE TEENAGE MOTHER gave birth to her grandson. You know black villages have all these teenage white chicks showing up to have babies in town. So its not something thats going to stand out in the old girls mind right?

    You do see that your hypothesis is just not relevant as well as being moronic.

    You know the Hawaiians have the birth certificate right?

  52. http://au.youtube.com/watch?v=JjzEaTIXHX0

    Here is Howard Stern drumming up a bit of publicity for Pastor Manning.

  53. You are lying on all three points.

  54. So you are just a lying cunt.

    Now you do know that the Hawaiians have his birth certificate right?
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

    Its 1961. A rural village area outside of Mombassa. A teenage white girl shows up heavily pregnant. Its the very first Kenyan generation of people who have gone to America to get educated. And your boy comes back with a white American girl.

    Where this white girl gives birth to your grandson. This is going to be something a grandma is going to be really confused about.

    NOW YOUR EVIDENCE DOESN’T COUNT BECAUSE ITS JUST YOU LYING YOU CUNT.

    So lets go again. Where is your evidence. What is it.

    See you are IRRATIONAL. You believe it. You’ve got no reason to. And you just lie?

    Why have you skin involved in this that you would just lie about it.

    You are a fucking lunatic mate.

  55. Why do people put up with compulsive liars like Steve Edney?

    We simply wouldn’t put up with him a couple of decades ago. If we’d have known that a baby would grow up to lie like this we would have left him behind a rock somewhere.

    What good is a person that just lies all the time?

  56. The transcript is unimportant since it in no way shows that Obama is born in the US.

    You claimed he was born in the US. Clearly you lied. Because you haven’t come up with any evidence for this.

  57. Look Edney. Where on this transcript does it say that Obama was born in the US?

    So you are barking right up the wrong tree here.

    NOW YOU KNOW THAT THE HAWAIIANS HAVE HIS BIRTH CERTIFICATE RIGHT?

    So to be eligible he has to prove his eligibility right?

    So you know this?

    So you are a liar. Because he’s trying to get into the Presidency without being willing to prove his eligibility. You cannot rightly get into little league this way.

  58. You tell me where on the transcript it says that Obama was born in the US?

    So what are you relying on?

    Where is your verification?

    And how would you explain that he hasn’t proved it?

  59. Again. Why do we ever put up with lying cunts like Edney. Dumb fucking morons who lie ALL THE TIME.

    We ought not put up with people like this.

    Why employ such a person? Why invite him to a blog bash?

    I mean this fellow is a complete fuckwit. He’s talking about a transcript that does not say Obama was born in the US. And yet he says its proof that Obama was born in the US.

    He knows that the Hawaians have Barry’s birth certificate and that there are all these court cases pending.

    Yet he still claims Barry is eligible.

    HOW.

    WHY.

    He’s just a lying cunt!!!

  60. The rule is that you are not allowed to lie on my site. So you stop lying and lay out your coherent argument. And then you will have posts to read. Whenever you want.

    But you cannot just post lies here Edney.

    Now you know that there is all these cases pending.

    And the Hawaiians claim to have his birth certificate and they have sealed it.

    NOW WHAT THE FUCK IS YOUR CASE YOU FUCKING MORON.

    If Obama is unwilling to prove his eligibility he is not eligible and this is obvious. Don’t act like you just showed up from Mars you lying cunt.

  61. “Bird try to be honest for a change and read that transcript. He refers to “her “son” multiple times and only mentions grandson once. She only ever replies calling him “her son” or “Obama” – which is odd that she refers to members of her family by the surname but who knows what the translator is saying.”

    Are you claiming that the transcript says that either one of them were born in the US?

    IF NOT WHAT IS YOUR POINT YOU FUCKING MORON?????

    You are a fucking idiot mate.

    Now you do know that the Hawaiians claim to have his original birth certificate on hand yes?

    SO STOP FUCKING WASTING MY TIME YOU FUCKING IDIOT AND MAKE A CASE FOR HIS ELIGIBILITY.

    You are such a fucking moron.

  62. Look Edney. Its simple. JUST MAKE A COHERENT ARGUMENT.

    The Hawaiians have his birth certificate.

    He is President-Elect ALREADY.

    So if there is nothing dodgy on it…… THEN WHATS HE DOING?

    He’s not proven his eligibility so clearly he is not eligible.

    NOW YOU MAKE YOUR CASE.

    Why don’t you and that dumb cunt Cambria and that dumb cunt Taranto, all have a conference call so you can come up with some sort of coherent argument?

    The three of you might brainstorm something.

  63. So Edney, JC, Taranto. You three dumb cunts.

    What is your argument?

    Surely you must have an argument?

    Try again.

    You too Cambria you fucking blockhead.

  64. Come on Edney you compulsive lying stupid cunt.

    MAKE A CASE.

    You’ve made these idiotic claims.

    You make a case.

    My assertion is that the birth certificate must prove he’s not born in Hawaii or it must have some other surprising information on it or for some other reason he is not eligible and he’s stonewalling on the birth certificate for that reason.

    SO WHAT IS YOUR ALTERNATIVE TO THESE THREE.

    You see. You are a such dumb cunt you are too stupid to recognise what a dumb cunt you are.

  65. “Not yet. The last article I read on the subject was a consideration of the problems inevitable in the future. This stuff stays radioactive for a very long time.”

    Adrien. Stop talking crap will you? If you don’t know what you are talking about don’t spread misinformation.
    .
    This is the problem here. Its not that the good stuff isn’t out there. Its that people like you who know nothing keep distracting people by filling up the air with nonsense.

  66. No you idiot. What its not evidence is is its not evidence that Obama was born in THE USA.

    Nowhere in the transcript is their evidence that Obama was born in the USA. So why do you keep lying and claiming that Obama was born in the USA?

    Only a complete mutant such as yourself would take his Grandma claiming he was born in Kenya and twist it to say that he is born in the USA.

    Where is your evidence that Obama was born in the USA.

  67. Obviously I couldn’t let that post stay since you claimed that you had multiple verification that he was born in the USA which was a flat out lie.

    You don’t have any such verification that he was born in the USA.

    So we are just back to you lying again. His grandmother claiming he was born in Kenya against no evidence at all that he was born in the USA.

    Now where is your evidence.

    Being as we know that the Hawaiians have his original birth certificate?

    So you just keep lying and you keep the filibuster going. Yet the evidence is clear. There is something about the birth certificate that excludes him from eligibility. Or he is using the birth certificate to shield him from some other matter that excludes him from eligibility.

  68. I think we know whats going on here. The communist side of the argument want us to be totally invested in the birth certificate in the hope that it might say he was born in Hawaii. Whereas the issue is will Barry prove his eligibility.

    They want to filibuster one question so it becomes another. Just like they did with the WMD issue.

  69. Lets not forget what the question is Jason.

    The question is IS OBAMA WILLING AND ABLE TO PROVE HIE IS ELIGIBLE.

    Even if the birth certificate said he was born in Hawaii he would still be ineligible. So holding up the birth certificate and suddenly releasing it at the last moment wouldn’t prove he was eligible.

    We mustn’t let the filibusters of liars and idiots like Edney blind us from this fact.

    EDNEY KNOWS THAT OBAMA WON’T RELEASE THE BIRTH CERTIFICATE.

    Hence he knows that Obama is ineligible. Since if he was eligible he’d hand over all the information which would prove it.

  70. There is nothing to test or bet JASON. It remains a fact that Obama is not eligible to be President because he does not meet either of two criteria that would allow him to be eligible. IF AND ONLY IF BOTH OF THE CRITERIA HELD.

    1. He must be ABLE to prove his eligibility.

    2. He must be WILLING to prove his eligibility.

    We can be sure he is not able to prove his eligibility. BUT THAT DOESN’T MATTER. Since the fact remains that he is unwilling to prove his eligibility. Both criteria MUST be adhered to in any situation where eligibility is a factor.

    So what is to bet over. The proposition dopes not lend itself to a bet. Its what we know as A FACT.

    So its a FACT that Barry Soetoro is not eligible to be President. A FACT. Thats what we people who understand epistemology call a FACT.

    There is this delusional character out there called Barry Soetoro. He thinks he is President Elect. He is not the President-elect. He’s an unconvicted felon. The only problem is that there are many rationally-ignorant people…. and as well there are many people who are delusional as well who think he is the President-elect. But he isn’t. He is a Usurper, so far getting away with being the President-Elect. And thats all he is.

  71. STEVE EDNEY YOU LYING CUNT!!!!

    Why do you keep on fucking lying?

    OBAMA HAS NOT MADE HIS BIRTH CERTIFICATE AVAILABLE. STOP LYING YOU CUNT.

    Obama’s birth certificate is under seal in Hawaii. No-one has come forward who can lay claim to ever having seen it except for a few individuals in Hawaii.

    WHY DO YOU KEEP LYING ABOUT THIS?

  72. YES I WAS PROVED RIGHT IN EVERY RESPECT. AND CAMBRIA WRONG IN ALL PARTICULARS AND TOTALLY LEFTIST AND UNRIGHTEOUS TO BOOT.

    THATS WHY I KEPT THE POSTS UP. SINCE BY NOW PEOPLE WILL HAVE COME ROUND TO WHAT I WAS SAYING THEN AND SO THEY WILL SEE THAT I AM AHEAD OF EVERYONE ELSE IN ALL THINGS.

  73. WHAT HAS THAT GOT TO DO WITH ANYTHING? YOU ARE BASING YOUR ARGUMENT ON SOOTHSAYING? YOU REALLY ARE A STUPID CUNT. ARE YOU SAYING THAT YOU ARE IN FACT SUCH A DUMB CUNT THAT YOU THINK THAT THE DISMISSAL OF A COURT CASE PROVES SOMETHING? ALL IT PROVES IS THAT A COURT CASE WAS DISMISSED. BUT YOU DON’T EVEN HAVE THAT YET. INSTEAD OF AN ARGUMENT YOU HAVE A SOOTHSAYING PREDICTION, COMING PURELY OUT OF YOUR LITTLE MIND, THAT THE CASE WILL BE DISMISSED.

    TRY SHOWING UP WITH AN ACTUAL ARGUMENT CAMBRIA YOU MINDLESS CUNT.

  74. LIKE I SAID. I WAS RIGHT IN EVERY RESPECT YOU STUPID CUNT. THERE WAS NOTHING I WAS WRONG ABOUT. I WASN’T ENGAGING IN SOOTHSAYING.

    WHAT A DELUSIONAL CUNT YOU ARE. I WASN’T ENGAGING IN ANY PREDICTIONS AND I WAS RIGHT IN EVERY LAST RESPECT.

    ITS LIKE YOU ARE SUCH A DELUSIONAL CUNT THAT EVEN IN RETROSPECT YOU CANNOT SUSS OUT WHAT WAS RIGHT AND WHAT WAS WRONG. YET YOU CANNOT FIND WHAT I WAS WRONG ABOUT.

    FACE IT HUMPHREYS. YOU REALLY ARE A DUMB CUNT. GOOD TRADING HABITS CANNOT CHANGE THAT.

  75. NO THATS FUCKING WRONG. HE’S NOT LEGALLY PRESIDENT. BECAUSE THE CONSTITUTION IS THE SUPREME LAW OF THE LAND. NOT THE SUPREME COURT OVERWORK. NOT SUPREME COURT FEAR. NOT SUPREME COURT GUTLESSNESS. NONE OF THESE ARE THE LAW OF THE LAND. THE CONSTITUTION IS. IF HE’S NOT ELGIBLE, IN A NON-LINE-BALL-CASE, THEN HE’S A USURPER CLEAN AND SIMPLE.

    OK OF COURSE IF ITS A LINE-BALL-CASE THEN THE CURRENT SUPREME COURTS WORD WOULD IN EFFECT BE THE FINAL WORD, UNTIL IT WAS OVERTURNED BY A LATTER GROUP OF JUDGES. BUT THE FACT IS HE’S NOT PRESIDENT, ON THE GROUNDS THAT HE IS INELIGIBLE TO BE PRESIDENT, IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE CONSTITUTION, TOTALLY SEPARATE FROM WHATEVER THE SUPREME COURT SEZ.

    THEY ARE SO BUSY ANYWAY ITS SIMPLY NOT POSSIBLE TO KNOW WHAT THEIR GATEKEEPERS ARE TELLING THEM.

  76. YOU ARE LYING ABOUT HIM BEING BORN IN HAWAII. HIM BEING BORN IN HAWAII WOULD NOT MAKE HIM ELIGIBLE. SO YOU ARE LYING ABOUT THAT ALSO. BUT HIM NOT BEING BORN IN HAWAII WOULD CERTAINLY MAKE HIM INELIGIBLE.

    THE CATHOLIC CHURCH HAD ITS USURPERS. NOW THE AMERICANS HAVE THEIR FIRST ONE. NO USE COMING HERE TO MAKE BASELESS AND LYING ASSERTIONS. I’LL CERTAINLY PUT UP ANY EVIDENCE YOU COME UP WITH. NOTHING THAT COMES OUT OF YOUR INTUITION, IMAGINATION, OR LIVER-QUIVERS IS LIKELY TO STAY POSTED LONG.

    LESS INTUITION. MORE EVIDENCE.

  77. WRONG ON BOTH POINTS. ITS NOT PARTICULARLY FUNNY. AND YOU ARE A NUTCASE. ORLY ISN’T.

  78. HOW WOULD AN HAWAIIAN BIRTH MAKE HIM ELIGIBLE. YOU REALLY ARE A STUPID CUNT AREN’T YOU?

    IF HE WAS BORN BRITISH, AND BECAME INDONESIAN, IT REALLY DOESN’T MATTER WHERE HE WAS BORN.

    YOU PROVE THAT HE’S ELIGIBLE. DON’T WASTE MY TIME WITH YOUR STUPIDITY.

  79. SHE OUGHT NOT HAVE TO KNOW HOW TO FILE A CASE YOU STUPID TWAT. IF FILING A CASE IS AN ESOTERIC UNDERTAKING IT MEANS THAT THE LAWYERS ARE RIPPING OFF THE REST OF US. THAT THESE CUNTS FOUND A WAY TO ARBITRARILY DISALLOW HER FILING IS SIMPLY INCORRIGIBLE. IT OUGHT TO MEAN MASS-SACKINGS.

    SUPPOSING IT HAPPENS IN AUSTRALIA. SUPPOSE I HAVE THE AUTHORITY TO DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT. IF ANYONE FILES A CASE AND SOME CUNT TAXEATER DISALLOWS IT ON ACCOUNT OF SOME TECHNICALITY INVENTED BY TAXEATERS AND LAWYERS I’D FIRE EVERYONE IN THE OFFICE AND START AGAIN. AND IT MIGHT BE THAT OCCASIONALLY YOU WOULD LOSE A FEW GOOD PEOPLE. BUT WE HAVE TO BE OUT THERE MAKING TAXEATERS KNOW THAT THEY ARE NOT TO FUCK AROUND.

    IMAGINE THAT. NOT BEING ABLE TO FILE A CASE BECAUSE OF SOME CUNT TAXEATER RORT. HEADS OUGHTA ROLL.

  80. NO NO THATS NOT THE POINT DOPEY. THERE OUGHT NOT BE BASIC TAXEATER LOOPHOLES IN FILING IN SPIRITUAL CONTRAVENTION OF THE INTENTION OF THE CONSTITUTION. THE FRAMERS DID NOT ENVISAGE ARBITRARY LAWYER-TAXEATER USURPATION VIA THROWING CURVES AT PEOPLE VIA WHAT OUGHT TO BE A MUNDANE AND TOTALLY STRAIGHTFORWARD PROCESS OF FILING.

    THIS IS LEFTIST CUNT-OX TAXEATERS GETTING IN THE WAY. AND IF THE SYSTEM WAS WORKING AT ANY EFFECTIVE LEVEL IT WOULD TOUCH OFF A STRING OF SACKINGS.

  81. OBVIOUSLY THE SYSTEM IS NOT WORKING WELL. SINCE NO-ONE CAN PROVE THAT HE’S NOT A USURPER AND YET HE’S STILL THERE IN THE WHITE HOUSE DESTROYING AMERICAS FUTURE.

    CLEARLY THATS A BROKEN SYSTEM. THE REASON THAT THEY KEEP THROWING THEM OUT IS THAT THEY ARE FEARFUL THAT IF THEY ACTUALLY JUDGED THEM THEY WOULD HAVE TO BRING THEIR MAN DOWN. OTHERWISE THE CASES WOULD BE TESTED, THE CASE FOR HIS PRESIDENCY WOULD BE PROVED THEN (IF YOU WERE RIGHT BUT YOU ARE NOT) AND THAT WOULD BE THAT. MAYBE TWO CASES MAX. WOULD HAVE TO BE TESTED. RATHER THAN 17 THROWN OUT.


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