Posted by: graemebird | December 4, 2008

Good King Malcolm X And Bad Caliph Barry XXX

Degrees of separation are not always of the nature as to be measured by leagues or miles, nautical and otherwise. The generation gap may be large or small. Cassandra gives her warnings in the same room as the people who ignore her.  Prisms of the mind can establish a gulf between the guileless many and the intriguer-few that walk the same streets in the centre of a western town. Family feuds can make a mockery of the existence of a billion phones, though each one can call every other.

A gay churchgoer may feel distance between herself and another gay woman of the same congregation. Yet the order of the mutual confession of their orientation may be pre-determined by their relative prominence locally or on a wider stage. During the last glaciation barriers of ice blocked off peoples one from the other so assiduously, and for such lengths of time, that the differences we identify with race were established, and few such differences precede the last glacial period. And yet during those many tens of thousands of years, a bird might have flown between alienated communities in less time than it took to gather the wood in the evening and start a fire.

In the video Elton sees the blue-eyed Nikita on the watch-tower and just metres away. But she might as well have been on another planet, until Reagan emerged to wipe that wall from the face of the earth, along with the conditions that made it necessary.

In those decades and centuries where english-speaking navies hold sway, it is the sea that brings us together and mountain ranges that keep us apart. But this was not always the way. In ancient times the shipping was not as advanced. Yet the world was warmer, and the separation between eastern and western civilisations was indistinct. Alexander crossed no single east-west dividing line, to conquer the world known to him.

Some time before Alexander came to power a fellow called Demosthenes would warn the independent Greek city states that they had to form a coalition devoted to stopping Philip of Macedon and his primitive Macedonian countrymen, from taking away their liberty. Why was he not listened to until it was already too late?

Were the Greeks of that era like the people of the English-Speaking world of today? Did Greeks in those days have a blind spot when it comes to recognising the potential for stealth and ruthlessness in their enemies? What is it that makes people so foolish as to deride the idea that their enemies can be more dedicated and stealthy then their own jaded guileless selves?

Was there a cult of anti-conspiracy back then? Logically speaking; that people who tend to see conspiracies everywhere may often be deranged, in no way detracts from the potential for conspiracies. It is lazy and mentally sloppy to make such a stupid mistake of logic. YES, people can get deranged and paranoid. YES ITS TRUE that certain individuals can imagine a whole string of phantom-plots and can never be free of them. But it is extremely moronic and illogical for this known fact to lead to the conclusion that stealth is not possible from those who wish to do us harm.

Perhaps the hellenistic mind rebelled from notions of conspiracy. Perhaps they too imagined that their enemies talked things out openly like they themselves tended to do. But everyone reading this ought to know for sure, and without any doubt whatsoever, that the idea of dismissing the potential for stealth in ones enemies, is delusional in the extreme beyond anything that the blameless paranoid might spout out in one frenzy or another.

Was there anything good to come out of the Alexandrian conquests? Alexander was not great and he was not good. He was a mass-murderer and a real prick.  A person not in keeping with the prior Greek heritage. Might it not be argued though, that in the longer run some sort of utilitarian benefit might have been derived, by the stretching out of the superior hellinistic culture over any number of kleptocracies, tribes, minor kingdoms and base civilisations that the eastern world held?

I don’t think so myself. My imagining of the situation is that rather than helenising all these various orientals that the cultural transmission may have been two-way. And therefore the main lasting effect of helenistic control of the conquered territory, may have been the orientalisation of the Greek-speaking world.

The reason I have this prejudice is that the next era when Greek speakers loom large in my chronology of history is when Constantine moves the capital of the Roman Empire from Rome to Byzantium. Renaming the existing city Constantinople. This is many hundreds of years after Alexander. So its a slim thing to base an outrageous prejudice on. And I have another prejudice which reinforces this one. And that is the idea that orientals are always up to something. They are always into plotting and intrigue. So that these Greek-speakers, from then on, seemed to fall into a pattern of violence as the preferred method of changing top management. It seemed that with the Byzantines, SECRETIVE PLOTTING was the way to gain power. And the two prejudices together makes me think of these Greek speakers as, by that time, effectively orientalised.

Reading histories of the Byzantium Empire can be grim business. These people seemed to be always having each-others eyes plucked out. And they appeared to be pretty good at killing close members of their own family. No wonder Gibbon got the shits with them. But one good thing they did do was they made Constantinople an unassailable citadel. And so therefore they held off the Muslim advance one century after another.

Many times the Empire appeared to be on its last legs. Right down to where the Muslims seemed to control most of the territory directly outside Constantinoples walls. But then their fortunes would change, because the city of Constantinople itself was so famously strong, and the Empire would reconstitute itself, even as internally one nasty betrayal followed hard upon the heels of another vicious conspiracy, which lead only to more unspeakable acts of brutality at the higher reaches of power

So thats how this world is. Thats how its been outside of Western Europe. And inside Western Europe as well for that matter. But perhaps not to the same degree. This is the way that politics can work from time to time and in various geographies. And its a fact that you dimwitted Catallaxy types ought to get used to.

Now the centre of intrigue, paranoia, conspiracy, stealth and ruthlessness is in the Muslim world. It matters not that you don’t want to believe in the potential for plotting and conspiracy, in matters of all levels of importance and of durations lasting a short time to durations lasting decades.  Your non-belief is not central to the issue and merely just naive projection. The main point is that Muslims DO!!!!!!! believe this stuff. Muslims are right into conspiracy. They think this is the way the world works and certainly its the way that their world works. Every Muslim is a hopeless paranoid, by the standards of the centre of politics in this country. They are all paranoid. Not one Muslim isn’t paranoid by the standards of Catallaxy. This is their culture and its better if our side can get a handle on it.

Our dear dear Muslim brothers and sisters are sort of “hyper-Byzantines” in this regard. Once a devout Muslim starts thinking about politics he is likely to conjure three plots before breakfast. He will see plots going on everywhere. This is the way they are. This is their culture. The Muslims and those crafty communist Chinese are always plotting something. They are always up to something.

We see here how the cultural transmission of these conpirationist tendencies might have radiated out from one cess-pool of shame and wickedness to another. For Moscow was conceived of as the third Rome after Rome itself and Constantinople.  So from time to time us guileless ocean-rulers have found ourselves awash in these vile intriguers.

It is not productive to look at different people and see yourself. For it might be the case that as individuals we can be similar in some ways. But foreigners are different in the way they act politically. As we have seen by the importation of familism into New South Wales politics. But for this current story the main difference here, is that while mostly only paranoids think about conspiracies in our culture , in the Muslim world they are bigtime into conspiracies and every bit as much as the Byzantines ever were. After all every terrorist attack is a conspiracy. And when they gunned down Good King Malcolm X that was a conspiracy also.

Hitlers father was a customs official and he died when Hitler was about 13 or so. In the movie “The Boys From Brazil”, the plotters behind a conspiracy (one which was designed to be carried out over many decades) went to some trouble to plant their Hitler clones in households that were supposed to be akin to Hitlers own upbringing. So there is one scene where one of the adopting fathers is murdered so that the cloned Hitler can have his father die at the same age as Hitlers own father died.

This is a really far-fetched plot for us westerners. But not so for these intriguers in the Muslim world.

Malcolm X, like Hitler was the fourth child of his mother, although I think his father had already had three children by a previous marriage. If you were hoping that his boy Barry might move to the centre of politics just forget about it. Because he was a first-born. And in accordance with Sulloway the first-borns only change their basic values very slowly. They are deeply conservative by nature. Not conservative in the sense that they will vote Republican. But conservative in the sense that they will rigidly follow their values once these values have been crystalized.

First borns and “functional first borns” do not tend to be able to change their mind as the new information comes in. So for those of you who think Barry will be a new Malcolm, and always be reinventing himself, finding his way closer and closer to truth and righteousness, well this is not going to happen. Barry is a communist and Islamo-fascist partisan and he will stay that way.  This is very clear in all that he has done to date. He will be true to his sponsors. He will dutifully trade off short-run tactical gains for long-run strategic ruin. And all this talk about him moving to the centre is just lies, superstition, wishful thinking and delusion.

We see that it is the violent principle of Islam that killed Malcolm and now that same crowd have taken over his boy and his heritage. Perhaps all of us would like to claim Malcolm. For my part, though he probably hung around a bunch of creeps and likely put about some pretty horrible ideas, I see a strong almost-Randian streak in his speeches. I see an attitude towards liberty that is not unlike the Southern American anglo-celts “Don’t Tread On Me” attitude. Its probably a personal fault of mine that I like this fellow. But a generation can be a long time and this Barry is in no way like Malcolm. This Barry is an extremist of the most vicious kind.

Barack Obama surely is Malcolms son which is why Oprah calls him “THE ONE” and why Islamic extremists have been assisting him for three decades at least.

MARCH 2009

“…Obama is not your BROTHER Fred. I can tell you that…”

“… I’ll talk to you and you can talk to me. But I’m never going to respect you, until you-all repent for killing a brother. You talk about what I’m doing to Obama? But look what you-all did to Malcolm!!!! And Malcolm was INDEED a BROTHER….”

The immense regard that a lot of us have for Malcolm is really something. It may be a bad thing and I cannot rightly justify it in my case. Its almost a prodigal son thing. The historian Paul Johnson mentioned him in passing as a rascist and he had good reasons taking the totality of Malcolms life. But this would be a bit like me dismissing George Orwell as just another socialist. The key with Malcolm seems to be that he followed logic and intellectual honesty. And by the time he was gunned down by muslims he did appear to be someone that many of us could rightly think well of.

A person of astonishing talents. Whereas Barry is just a rotten fraud. Soetoro is an incredible mediocrity and underacheiver. Soetoro is someone who will destroy millions of lives, if he is not somehow stopped, and a whole new election called.

Since Barry has put together a team of Cook county clones, the solution can only be found in an whole new election.

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Responses

  1. I agree with the previous comment. Do you have one micron of evidence that Barack Obama is Malcolm X’s son? Anything at all?

  2. Yes . There are several convergent lines of evidence but each one weak. There is the thinking about his behaviour as to his eligibility. Its a scenario where he might not be entirely eligible but close enough if he stonewalls. Since it will mean that both parents are American. It would help solve the mystery of his behaviour. There is the fact that his Mother and Malcolm were in the same city at the right time. Seattle by memory. See the Atlas Shrugs blog. There is the fact that he talks about Malcolm in his biography “Dreams Of My Father.” There is his voice. with much the same cadences. There is the fact that the Luo tribe all have weak chins. But still his Dudley Do-Right Jaw could be put down to his white grandfather one supposes. But one thing which is very strange is why his alleged African father ought to be getting financing for his education from a socialist outfit and how come it is that and Islamic extremist would help him get into Harvard when he’s supposed to be a Christian.

    Then there is this.

    http://au.youtube.com/watch?v=jpB_sfIwiEE

  3. http://emanuelrahm.blogspot.com/2008/11/is-malcolm-x-obamas-father.html

  4. Graeme

    If Obama is Malcolm X’s son what happens to your idea that Obama’s ineligible to be president because his father was not an American?

  5. He would likely still be ineligible. But it might be such a close call that you could put it down to a technicality. Hence the interventionist judges would be able to bullshit their way out of it and the good guys won’t likely get the majority. Also you couldn’t prove that he would be perjuring himself by taking the oath.

    Its important that people know one way or the other. Because if he is Malcolms son then it will explain why these radical muslims have been assisting him. And the idea THAT they have been assisting him will start to become believable even to the dimmest of the Catallaxy crowd and people more generally.

    You see thats quite likely. Because that would be the stonewall he’s been carrying out. That would explain his behaviour and also it would help explain the behaviour of two or three Hawaiian officials.

    If he’s Malcolms boy its very important that people ought to know it and they ought to know how he’s gotten a free ride all this time.

  6. He would likely still be ineligible.
    .
    On what basis?
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    Because if he is Malcolms son then it will explain why these radical muslims have been assisting him.
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    Wasn’t Malcolm X shot by the Nation of Islam or cronies thereof? Malcolm X jettisoned the blue-eyed devil theory. He rejected the Nation of Islam. I can’t see him having much time for the likes of Usama bin Laden and in the very unlikely event that Obama is Malcolm X’s son he would’ve been 4 when his ‘dad’ died. What influence could the guy’ve had?

  7. Sorry make that 3 and half when his ‘dad’ died.

  8. If you actually tried to put your argument (whatever that may be) in the form of some sort of argument you might not get yourself so confused. Go again. What argument are you trying to make here?

  9. Nation of Islam has nothing to do with proper islam

  10. Well saying “NOTHING” to do with Islam is a bit of an exaggeration Albert. Its one sect within the wider religion.

  11. “He would likely still be ineligible.
    .
    On what basis?”

    Haven’t we gone over this? Strict interpretations may view his Kenyan and Indonesian citizenships as disqualifying him. As well as his Kenyan birth. On top of that not a great deal of evidence exists that he repatriated after his time in Indonesia. So even his American citizenship is in question. The current case being discussed (probably as we speak) in the Supreme Court is also about disqualifying McCain although he has two American parents and has never held any other citizenship at all.

    But to be sure. Having Malcolm as his father will bring the matter closer to where the leftist judges can bullshit their way out of it.
    .

  12. What argument are you trying to make here?
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    Oh sigh here we go again.
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    You’re saying he was born in Keyna on the basis of what? You say he has Indonesian citizenship on the basis of what? The Kenyan thing is based on his father being Obama but now you say his father is Malcolm X.
    .
    The whole ‘ineligible to be prez’ thing rests on Obama’s father’s nationality does it not. If Obama’s dad was Malcolm X then that goes away. In any event what if Obama’s dad was Malcolm X? What are you saying? Malcolm X could hardly have been much of an influence Obama was 3 and half years old when X was shot.

    Did they spend much time together? Do you have a photo of them together? At all? Anything more than that photo-morphing ‘proof’ of yours which incidentally I’ve seen used to ‘prove’ that Elvis was related to Lord Byron.

  13. Where do you disagree with me?

    We’ve talked about his Kenyan birth before haven’t we? His grandmother says he was born in Kenya. No hospital in Hawaii has records of him being born there. The Kenyans have shut down their records for him. He was born in the Coast Providence Hospital in Mombassa. If he was born in Hawaii there would be hospital records of it.

    I just went over the issue of what would happen if he had two American parents. What do you want me to do. Just repeat what I said?

    Go over your argument again. Maybe the second time it will all click into place. If you had tried to make a proper argument the first time around then you wouldn’t be having these difficulties.

    Go again.

  14. Graeme

    You are advocating two mutually contradictory scenarios at once.

    SCENARIO A: Malcolm X is Obama’s dad
    SCENARIO B: Barack Obama Sr is Obama’s dad

    If Sc A obtains then Obama is a US citizen and there’ no question about it. He can’t have two dads so who was his dad ‘ey? Obama or X?

  15. BTW here’s Obama’s birth certificate.

  16. No you are lying.

    What did I say Adrien?

    I didn’t say anything contradictory. I said that ON A STRICT INTERPRETATION he still would be ineligible. RIGHT????? As would be McCain.

    So thats what I said. But I agreed that he’d probably be judged OK on that basis. Because it would be more of a close thing. It would be closer to being considered a technicality.

    SO YOU ARE LYING WHEN YOU CLAIM I CONTRADICTED MYSELF.

    Now lets go again. This time don’t lie. Tell me where you disagree with me.

  17. Adrien YOU LIED AGAIN. You claimed that you were linking to a birth certificate. And you didn’t link to a birth certificate.

    Now make your argument again. Try and do it just as straight as you can and without lying.

  18. This time when you go again. You might actually admit that I didn’t contradict myself. And you might say something like “Oh I get what you are saying” to try and smooth over the fact that you were lying. Or to come clean or something.

    WHERE DO YOU DISAGREE WITH ME.

    Go again.

    This time don’t lie.

    Go again.

  19. Look. I’ll wipe your previous nonsense. And go again and make your argument.

  20. “SCENARIO A: Malcolm X is Obama’s dad
    SCENARIO B: Barack Obama Sr is Obama’s dad

    If Sc A obtains then Obama is a US citizen and there’ no question about it. ”

    You dummy. We weren’t only talking about him being a citizen. The constitution says that he has to be a NATURAL BORN CITIZEN???

    What is wrong with you Adrien? What’s the matter? You cannot possibly have swallowed that much alchohol.

    Are you now clear that it NO JUST about being a citizen? That there is this other thing also? The NATURAL BORN CITIZEN business?

  21. Are you grasping what is going on here Adrien?

    Or is it all a bit too much for you?

  22. Are you grasping what is going on here Adrien?

    Well I am having a bit of trouble Graeme. Who is Obama’s father? Is it Malcolm X or Obama Sr? They can’t both be his dad or can they? And what about this birth certificate business? What’s up with that? Is it a fake?

    You cannot possibly have swallowed that much alchohol.

    Please don’t insult the Scots.

  23. Yes. I think you are right. They cannot both be his father WHAT IS YOUR POINT?

    Now don’t fucking lie and pretend that I’ve contradicted myself.

    GO AGAIN YOU STUPID CUNT?

    Go again.

    What is your argument?

    Your Dad cannot both be Rock Hudson and Perry Como right? This we know right? They can be one, the other, or neither.

    When you have an argument you stupid cunt you are supposed to have a point.

    GO AGAIN DUMMY.

  24. Your Dad cannot both be Rock Hudson and Perry Como right?
    .
    Well neither actually. More a shyer, tweedier, stockier James Stewart. Funnily enough he was James Stewart. Just not the one that was also Ransom Stoddard 🙂

    I dinnae think Rock woulda been a Da’ somehow laddie.

    I don;t have an argument at the moment. To have one I need to know whether you think Malcolm X or Obama Sr was Obama Jr’s dad. Will we have President X on the 21/01/09?

    I merely seek information.

  25. OK Adrien. Can you either apologize for being a stupid lying cunt or go again?

    Otherwise I’m going to have to cull all these stupid lying cunt posts from off this particular thread.

    Why are you such a fucking liar?

    Some people lie all the time. But you are worse. Since you turn the lying off just long enough for people to know its deliberate and not pathological.

  26. the tragedy of Graeme Bird – such a great prose artist but his ideas are fundamentally absurd

    write fiction graeme, write fiction

  27. He already does.

  28. YEAH REAL INTELLIGENT COMMENT THERE IDIOT.

  29. When I wrote the above post I had absolutely no idea that 9/11 was a shadow government operation. I could not have believed that such a thing was even possible.

    Of course I wasn’t a lunatic about it like Daddy Dave. It was more than obvious that 9/11 required multiple regime intelligence. It just seemed impossible that there were Americans involved.

    I didn’t see a connection between the Obama usurpation and 9/11. But in fact they are really the self-same conspiracy. The ruling elite fucking things up, covering their tracks, almost losing control, and so forth. The Obama usurpation was a cover for the 9/11 cock-up. These guys have grown too fat and useless to come up with any new tricks. They only have a few. One supposes that their numbers are too large and their pedigree too diluted to learn anything new.

  30. Brought forward to give credit to Elton John for his good work here. This thread has been featured in African online newspapers. There are still places on the face of this earth where they recognise quality.

  31. Every time I see Crocodile Dundee I realise what a masterpiece it is. What a phenomenal movie. Amazing that it is also not a critical favorite. It ought to be in any serious critics top 100.

  32. Monetary expansion and normal blokes acting gay? A clip from 72. All jokes aside, here is Marc Bolan. Seldom exceeded in the projection of a certain sort of steam. And rare footage of the young Russell Brand in the background. Marc in great physical shape.

  33. Did you catch Gran Torino on Gem last night or can’t you get Digital, Graeme? One of Clint Eastwood’s best. I think you’d like it.

  34. No I don’t get digital. I’d really want to see it sometime. Good to see his character sticking up for that put-upon tribe. Who are they and who is it giving them gyp back where they come from? Mountain people yeah?

  35. it’s as much about the solid values of the hardworking white working class old timers of the Korean war generation as it is the Hmong. It’s a good exposition of conservative but pro-immigration and assimilation values

  36. Good stuff. I saw some of the scenes. There is one where the Hmong teenage girl asks Clint around for a bit of a get-together. And to close the sale she says “We’ve got beer” She says that one line with such young girl charm that one would find it impossible to turn her down, no matter how anti-social one was.

  37. I see a time of ghastly tribalism and racism on the horizon. You see people swing one way where they won’t even put up with a joke, but the same people will swing the other way just the same. We’ve seen swings of anti-semitism on both the right and the left.

    The main problem isn’t so much people letting a little bit of bigotry show, although sadly that can be a problem. But the bigger problem is people being unable to think straight generally. The inability to extricate themselves from their manipulators. Their inability to establish a sound and functioning personal epistemology, thus leaving them open to those who would be their low-key masters.

    In all this the skeptics are the worst offenders since they operate under a fantasy-epistemology that undermines any thinking, reason or science. Whereas with the Church there were work-arounds and spheres. You could have a sphere for faith and a sphere for reason …. the skeptics allow for neither. They are more threatening by far than the jihad. More disturbing also. Far more corrosive of values as such.

  38. From elsewhere:

    Graeme Bird :
    01 Jun 2011 9:49:20am
    Chris, you can hardly hassle Tony for wanting to cater to industrial workers given the performance of your neoclassical tribe of economists. You guys have perverted the concept of “comparative advantage” to mean something pretty close to its opposite. Your crowd has wrongly contended that we don’t need manufacturing. It ought to be obvious that a country with chronic debts ought to be running trade surpluses every quarter. Your crowd says nay. Your tribe pretends our entirely dysfunctional capital markets are “efficient”.

    All these ideas are wrong under economic science. Worst of all is the idea that comparative advantage mean we lose our absolute advantage, and our industry, and concentrate on services and mining. The real version of comparative advantage is in opposition to this goblin version. Your crowd looks at communist nationalisation of our strategic resources and calls it “free trade”.

    Its just very hard to understand why the neoclassicals work so hard to ruin this country. And their loyal opposition the Keynesians as well. We need to put a stop to both these dysfunctional schools of thought. Were it up to me we would be running trade and budget surpluses immediately, and never get out of that path, until such time as we had more money then debt.

    Worst of all your crowd has been soft on the carbon tax. Two-faced. Mealy-mouthed. Compromising. Its about time you people figured out which side your bread is buttered on and called for immediate re-industrialisation. “Heavy metal don’t mean rock and roll to me.”

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  39. graemebird | June 1, 2011 at 11:32 am | Reply

    “Graeme, I’m not sure what would persuade you. Science is never about proof…”

    Science is definitely about proof. Science is always about proof. Or do you still defer to Galen, and not realise that the heart is a pump? Do you follow Ptolemy, and say that its an open question whether the earth orbits the sun, or that it could be the other way around?

    Science is in fact the search for proof. And proof is found through convergent evidence in the context of developing competing paradigms in parallel. You cannot persuade me since you are wrong. You have come in on the wrong side of this argument. You are doing rather better on the economics side because you are looking at matters through fresh eyes and are hammering the neoclassical consensus.

    You are perfectly capable of finding out, as I have found out, that the data is rigged. I assure you that this is the case. Its not rigged in subtle and hard to identify ways. So if you choose not to do, what for you would be very little work, and confirm this matter, well thats falling down on your calling.

    The physics of absorption is well established. This is really about the colour of CO2. Its just a gas colour. The question was whether what was found in the lab, translate to certain predictions made for the troposphere, or have those predictions turned out to be wrong? You cannot reinsert in the conclusion to the inference, that which was used to make the inference in the first place.

    The extrapolation of the colour of CO2, having these large effects on temperatures was a single inductive inference. You ought to know that such pieces of armchair thinking are the bread and butter of creativity in science. A good scientist ought to make three or four such inductive inferences before breakfast. A good scientist will also know that most of these examples of armchair thinking will turn out to be wrong, just as this one has.

    Now on the other hand, if you take my paradigm, and start looking at resistance to circulation, right on this very page on your very first diagram you will have evidence to see that I am on the right track, and need no rigged data to reinforce my inductive inference, an inference made straight from the Stefan Boltzmann law.

    Look to the younger Dryas. See the reversal of a warming trend which is held to have happened as a result of Lake Agassiz bursting and cold fresh water landing directly down onto the gulf stream. There we have a 1000 year reversal of the warming trend, until the Gulf Stream started up again, and not merely a redistribution of the available heat. To spread the joules out is to more successfully retain them.

    And this is a very important matter and not to be crowded out by bad science. People have began to use the Gulf Stream for energy generation. This is a worrying trend though the proponents will cause this trend “green”. Buying land for nature corridors is green. Impeding the Gulf Stream is courting disaster.

    Warming and cooling get locked in because colder water is more viscous, and because you get all this ice impeding matters off Hudson Bay. You will see this showing up in the record very clearly if you go looking for it.

    • Hey Graeme, you must have a fetish for being wrong, you do it so much.

      Scientific theories are never proven NO THATS JUST COMPLETE BULLSHIT. IS IT YOUR CONTENTION THEN THAT THE SUN GOES AROUND THE MOON? THAT THE HEART HAS NO FUNCTION AS A PUMP? YOU ARE WRONG, I AM RIGHT. BAD THEORIES ARE NEVER PROVEN. GOOD THEORIES ARE PROSAICALLY ACCEPTED IF BAD THEORIES AREN’T GETTING IN THE WAY.

  40. your thoughts Graeme?

    http://www.institutional-economics.com/index.php/section/in_defence_of_fractional_reserve_banking

  41. So what? If you had a justification for bank-cash-pyramiding, or gold-supply pyramiding, or broker share pyramiding …… OR INDEED ANY SORT OF PHANTOM SUPPLY fucking up our price system, then you could say it in your own words, and then I could refute it.

    No use posting a link that makes you feel good while you are actually reading it, wherein the justification for it disappears immediately as you try to put the argument in logical form in your own words.

    We can make up the supply with fiat notes, gold, silver, platinum and copper stocks, and now with digitization we can further make up the supply with metals that don’t even have the characteristics of money. In fact we have to do this if we want to survive and thrive long after the next catastrophic comet pass-by or shockwave from the galaxy centre or subsequent shockwave from supernovae.

    Chromium forms a protective outer oxidised layer. Titanium and Tungsten can both be stored long-term. The Americans have a secure oil reserve, and we can mimic this for yet another government money.

    In fact fiat would do the job, but then its open to abuse, and also it will not lead to a resumption of the extraction industries after a near-extinction event. After a major event of this sort the survivors will cannibalize the existing materials on the ground. And when they run out they won’t have an extraction industry so they’ll hit a wall after having a suprisingly good standard of living for a few generations. Then its back to the stone-age for us. Which is not acceptable. Since we will perish as a species if we don’t colonize space as our main habitat.

    We need to be hoarding freeze-dried food and a broad spectrum of durable metals in order to survive war and natural disasters. And whereas monetization is inappropriate for freeze-dried food it is the very essence of good husbandry for rare metals.

    • “In fact we have to do this if we want to survive and thrive long after the next catastrophic comet pass-by or shockwave from the galaxy centre or subsequent shockwave from supernovae.”

      Sure there have been major meteorite collisions with the earth, like the one 65 million years ago, but what evidence do you have for comets passing by the earth causing any damage to the earth?

      THE BRONZE AGE CATASTROPHE LEADING TO THE COLLAPSE OF BRONZE AGE TECHNOLOGY APPEARS TO HAVE BEEN CAUSED BY THE COMET THAT SUBSEQUENTLY BECAME VENUS. THIS WAS ENOUGH OF A CATASTROPHE TO CHANGE THE EARTH-YEAR.

      SEE VELIKOVSKY “WORLDS IN COLLISION”

      • Gravity is a dumb force and cannot direct things in a way that leads to always smooth sailing. Now you would notice how the inner planets and Jupiter seem to be orbiting loosely on a single plain. Pluto goes above and under that plain to more than a small degree. This ordering of the planets, gravity being dumb, is only achieved through catastrophe.

      • Venus was a comet around 3000 years ago?

        A LITTLE EARLIER THAN THAT. PART OF THE PROOF IS THE FACT THAT ITS DARK SIDE MAINTAINS THE SAME TEMPERATURE AT SURFACE LEVEL AS ITS SUNNY SIDE. ERGO IT HAS BEEN MOLTEN IN THE RECENT PAST.

      • You neglected to attempt to answer my other questions:

        How long did this transition from comet to planet take?

        What were the Sumerians viewing when they made observations of Venus 5000 years ago?

        THATS THE WHOLE POINT. VENUS WAS UNKNOWN TO HUMANITY 4000 AND 5000 YEARS AGO.

        HAIL BOPPE WILL EVENTUALLY BECOME A PLANET. COMET HOLMES HAS BECOME A SMALL ORBITING BODY BETWEEN JUPITER AND MARS. THE COMET, AS IT GETS CLOSER TO THE PLANET DRAWS IN ITS MASSIVELY SPREAD CONTENTS AND IF CLOSE TO THE SUN ALL OF THIS IS RENDERED MOLTEN, NOT BY THE SUNS HEAT BUT BY THE STRENGTH OF THE ELECTRICAL CHARGE.

        HOLMES WAS BRIEFLY THE LARGEST BODY IN THE SOLAR SYSTEM. ITS MANY TRAILING BITS LIT UP TO 1000 000 TIMES ITS FORMER BRIGHTNESS AND ITS VOLUME WAS LARGER THAN THE SUN. ITS NOW BEEN CAPTURED AND IT REVOLVES IN A STABLE ORBIT. BUT IT WASN’T BIG ENOUGH OR CLOSE ENOUGH TO EARTH TO CAUSE A CATASTROPHE.

      • Comets aren’t molten

        THATS RIGHT. WHAT IS YOUR POINT?

      • When comet Holmes lit up to 1000 000 times its former brightness clearly its many constituents would have heated up. But its certainly true that generally speaking comets aren’t molten. They aren’t molten but they can certainly heat up under some circumstances. Comet Holmes was out near Jupiter when it lit up like a Christmas tree.

      • “HAIL BOPPE WILL EVENTUALLY BECOME A PLANET.”

        That’s about as likely as you winning…….

        NO ITS MORE OR LESS CERTAIN THAT HAIL BOPPE WILL BE CAPTURED AS A PLANET. ITS ORBIT OUGHT TO GET SMALLER EACH TIME. AND ITS OF A SIZE WHERE IT WILL KEEP DRAWING IN NEW MATERIAL. WHEREAS SMALLER COMETS LOSE MATERIAL AND DRAW SOME IN.

      • It’s actually called Hale–Bopp.

        RIGHT.

        The only reason it’s orbit would decrease is due to the gravitational influence of large planets like Jupiter as it passes by, the next return being in 2400 years time.

        EXACTLY RIGHT. JUPITER IS ALWAYS THE KEY PLAYER IN CAPTURE AND THE FLATTENING OF ORBITS. THE COMET GIVES UP SOME OF ITS KINETIC ENERGY SPIN.

        Comets don’t increase in mass

        WRONG. SMALL COMETS BRING IN MATERIALS AND LOSE SOME. SUBLIMATION DOESN’T HAPPEN WITH COMETS SINCE THEY AREN’T MADE OF ICE. NOR HAS THERE BEEN ANY EVIDENCE THAT THEY WERE.

        WHILE SMALL COMETS LOSE AND GAIN MATERIALS, WITH LARGE COMETS ITS FAR MORE OF A ONE-WAY DEAL.

      • Obviously there would be no comets if they were made of ice and sublimated every time they arrive. I know you are pushing NASA lies but you don’t have to be quite so moronic about it.

      • No one said they were made entirely out of ice, The Deep Impact probe in 2005 showed that comet 9P/Tempel was in the order of 16 – 33% ice.

        Other comets may have more or less. That’s the beauty of science (as opposed to Birdian “science”), doing great experiments like this and gleaning the results to increase knowledge.

    • So the plan is to build huge warehouses and stock it with tons (@ $20000 per ton) of titanium ingots, just sitting there doing nothing.

      WELL YES. THIS IS EXCELLENCE IN CONSERVATION. THE STUFF GETS PULLED OUT OF THE GROUND EARLIER AND AT A FASTER RATE. BUT IT WILL SUBSEQUENTLY GET USED WITH MORE CARE AND DISCRETION. THIS IS THE ESSENCE OF PRUDENCE. WHEN THE TITANIUM IS NEEDED FOR HIGH-SPEED SPY PLANES OR WHATEVER, THE MATERIAL WILL BE THERE FOR THAT PURPOSE.

      THE DEVELOPMENT OF SPY-PLANES WAS MADE DIFFICULT BY AN INADEQUATE SUPPLY OF TITANIUM. WE NEVER WANT TO GET IN THAT POSITION.

      • From a military point of view it simplifies matters if you already know what the invaders are looking for. Here we draw them away from the population centres, and design our defenses accordingly. Bear in mind that extended nuclear war is on the cards. And these are no small considerations.

  42. I like Selgin but cash-pyramiding is a hob-goblin that haunts many minds including Selgins. There is no justification there. Just Selgin making examples of “free banking” in error. You couldn’t get your money back from these Scotsman. This was just lawlessness, and a defacto double standard in the laws of the day.

    His only real justification was the weak reed of excellence in private coinage. Thats really a small thing to hang a disastrous addiction to phantom supply, buggering our price system, on.

  43. Some folks think that this is a side issue. Its actually the most important issue that faces our species. Probably its the issue that decides whether an intelligent species makes its core habitat in space or whether it goes the way of the dinosaurs.

  44. As bankers we can grab most of the worlds banking market if 100% backing is guaranteed. Just like the Dutch did in the early 1600’s. We would have no competitors. These Titanium deposits can be lent at interest without ever having them leave their fortified quarters.

  45. Done right there is no opportunity cost because you buy slowly in the dips and the resources can be lent out with or without leaving storage.

  46. Its just incredible how people feel the need to spout NASA’s lies for them. Flapz has gone to the extent of pushing a NASA lie that even a small child ought to recognize as nonsense. Its as if the moron Phil Plait was dropping by.

  47. Damn link needs a dot on the end of it, anyway it refers to the South Park episode T.M.I.

  48. Timmy? Timeh? Total Mass Index?

  49. South Park. Meh. Cartoons for pimple faced male nerds who never grew up.

  50. Graeme, for most women it is a good rule of thumb to steer a wide berth from adult men who quote cartoons as a source of wisdom on anything under the sun.

    • oh dear, what a tool is poor ol’ Bird Flaps.

      Go read a book dear fella. ‘Twill do you the world of good. Wean yourself off the candy of posting inane comments on the blogs of people way more intelligent and well read than you will ever be.

      I suggest you start with Moby Dick.

  51. He seems to be my new babysitter. So its no easy thing to get rid of him. I just cannot fathom people that want to push the more stupid institutional positions that NASA takes. But there you are.

  52. I’d never write this thread over. For starters I’m not as proud of English-Speaking navies. Secondly I now know that the seat of intrigue is not in the Muslim world, but rather sits atop of the US-UK-EU country governments as a full-blown money-creation/covert operations nexus, which constitutes an all-powerful shadow government. So I’d be much easier on the Muslim world if I wrote it again, and pretty dirty on our SS.

    My knew view of things makes it more understandable how this crowd could have co-opted and warped Malcom’s boy and foisted him back on us for their own ends.

    Also I wouldn’t have been only blaming Muslims for the murder of Malcolm. Because the incitement and planning almost certainly came from our own shadow government. And maybe with the sort of motive Rumplestiltskin had. Maybe to claim the child.

  53. Isn’t it so interesting and ironic that my spiritual advisor, and personal Jesus interpreter, the honorable James David Manning ….. is here talking about Malcolm and Obama ……. not once suspecting that Malcolm is Obama’s father?

    I find the irony stunning. Like you can cut the air with it.

  54. On moderation elsewhere:

    We don’t need to choose between the US and China. Because the Australian people, the people of the United States, the Chinese government, and the Chinese people, all have a common enemy. That enemy is the money-creation/covert operations nexus of the West. You might say the “shadow government.”

    Our interests lie in describing our mutual enemy to our friends in Beijing. We would emphasise that in a hot war, no matter who was in charge we would, like it or not, always side with the Americans. But failing that we can work together, with Beijing, to belittle and diminish the shadow government, that bedevils us both, and the human race.

  55. Here is this wonderful series from Tom Woods in its entirety. My promoting this, is not to be construed as me having great admiration for the Church as an institution in recent decades.

  56. For the Church to reach its former greatness what you’d want is for public funding of education to be completely trashed. And thereafter for the Church to encourage home-schooling. It was public funding of education that started screwing up the scientific culture.


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