Posted by: graemebird | December 16, 2008

This Is What Is Passing For Analysis In Skeptics Circles.

REVERSE SPEECH. DAVID OATES. SKEPTICS SOCIETY. 

I went to the great Randi’s website and of course the great Randi is still writing very good columns and if you only read his stuff there would be nothing to be alarmed about. You would think it was just like the good old days when the Skeptics were giants awash in an ocean of 70’s superstition.

But then I noticed that on the global warming threads the kids, affecting to be skeptics, had been more or less totally taken in by this largest and most blatant of frauds. And so I went to try and ascertain the alleged skeptical youngsters attitude to reverse speech. To see if they had successfully debunked it or had they possibly seen cause to pursue this matter.

Here is what we find:

First Faux-Skeptic:

I followed the link in the indigo child forum to this site and can’t help but be amazed at how thoroughly people can convince themselves of perceiving exactly what they want.      

Quote:
Imagine being able to hear the voice of your spirit speaking to you in audible terms. What if you could have 2 way dialogue with your inner self? Ask questions and get answers. Sound impossible? Maybe not. This is the incredible possibility offered by the new and emerging field of Reverse Speech. This new theory claims that language is bi-level, that hidden within the sounds of our speech there is another communication transpiring at the same time. This communication occurs backwards and is the voice of the unconscious mind.
This is definitely another instance for my SUASAS Stick.
MY COMMENT: SO HE JUST DISMISSES THE REVERSE-SPEECH TECHNIQUE, ON THE BASIS OF A RELIGIOUS PERSON TAKING THE IDEA AND JUMPING TO SOME CONCLUSIONS ABOUT IT TO DO WITH SPIRITUALITY. THIS ALLEGED SKEPTIC MERELY ASSUMES HE KNOWS WHAT HE CANNOT POSSIBLY KNOW UNLESS HE HIMSELF HAS BEEN MUCKING ABOUT WITH RUNNING TAPES BACKWARDS. HE IMPLIES THAT HE IS PRIVY TO WHAT AMOUNTS TO OCCULT KNOWLEDGE. kNOWLEDGE DIVORCED FROM A PROCESS OF INVESTIGATION. HENCE WHAT WE SEE HERE IS NOT A SKEPTIC AT ALL. BUT A LEFTIST RUNNING A LEFTIST-REVERSAL.
SECOND FAUX-SKEPTIC
Heres an perfect example….     

“….******** GNI**** LLA STI”

DB

MY COMMENT. SO THIS FELLOW CALLS HIMSELF DEBUNK BUT HE DID NOT DEBUNK ANYTHING. IN FACT HE SEEMS TO THINK THAT PUTDOWNS CAN ALTER THE NATURE OF REALITY. ONCE MORE WE ARE LOOKING AT WHAT AMOUNTS TO OCCULTISTS. WHO BELIEVE THAT KNOWLEDGE IS AUTOMATIC AND NOT THE RESULT OF PAINSTAKINGLY FOLLOWING GOOD METHODOLOGY.     

 

THIRD FAUX-SKEPTIC

 

Absolutely NOT!

It was quite clearly TLAXGNBPUNXATAWNY

 

About the original, err, well, um, NEXT

 

MY COMMENTS. I’VE SEEN THIS “NEXT” BUSINESS BEFORE. WITHOUT INVESTIGATING THE MATTER THIS FELLOW GOES FOR THE OCCULT VIEW OF KNOWLEDGE AS WELL. THINKS HE CAN KNOW THINGS THAT HE CANNOT POSSIBLY KNOW. THIS IS THE OPPOSITE OF WHAT THE 70’S SKEPTICS, LIKE IAN PLIMER, AND THE GREAT RANDI (STILL ALIVE AND DOING GREAT WORK OF COURSE) WERE ABOUT.

FINAL FAUX-SKEPTIC:

…truh attog s’taht ,hcuO

MY COMMENT. SO HERE WE ARE DOWN TO A SORT OF ADRIEN-ARGUMENT. THE OCCULT IDEA THAT BEING FLIPPANT CAN AFFECT THE REALITY OUTSIDE ONES HEAD.

Well its been very disappointing catching up with this movement. Like running into these clowns who claim to be Milton Friedman fans after not paying any attention to that world for about 20 years. The same sort of degradation of the movement. The same nobodies and know-nothings hitching their wagons to their betters for purposes of ludicrous attempts to secure street cred.

I would have been happy to have seen them conduct a beginning debunking of this speech reversal. It would have saved me a lot of time. Because speech-reversal looks promising to me, but it will be awhile before I am in a position to either further confirm this exciting and important idea, or alternatively discover that there is little or nothing in it.

We are not in the position to confirm OR REJECT the usefulness of David Oates’ analytical technique without looking at independent reversed speech to see if he is creating a valid impression. Obviously if he is creating a valid impression this is a REVOLUTION. And it IS IMPORTANT not to reject such a thing in error and through willful ignorance.

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Responses

  1. Orly Taitz laying down some home truths. What a honey she is by the way.

    She’s gotten all these volunteers to ring up every SECRETARY OF STATE in all 50 states. And they have asked every last one if they have checked for Barack Obama’s eligibility. AND NONE OF THEM EVER DID!!!!!!!

    Orly is just as stupefied and mystified about the zombification of the public as what I am. Its as though we have 99% of the public dumbed down to Catallaxy levels. So whats going on. Well you know what? It simply doesn’t matter. And it is irrational and poxy to be denying the reality of what has happened on the basis that one doesn’t have a convincing explanation for it. People are and herdlike in the medium-term. And don’t always get smarter as the days drag on. Its a reality one has to live with if one can shake themself free from their own zombie topor.

    http://au.youtube.com/watch?v=tD1eq1syEZo

    • No I’m afraid Edney that it is quite normal for white people to have to prove eligibility as well you racist cunt.

  2. dude, we’re the only people who read your crazy site regularly

    • Right. There I am. Bringing enlightenment to a select few. And what do they do. They spend their whole time provoking me. Thats gratitude for you.

      I’ve been over at the great Randi’s site investigating the deterioration of the skeptics. I’m giving them a good wake-up. They’ve grown smug and woolly-headed and they needed a bit of a wake-up.

      But it cannot last. You start a wave one way and then you get the back-wave. Which makes me think I’ll apply a bit of pressure for awhile and then beat it.

  3. Spiritual adviser and personal righteousness coach…. Expert in Jesus-interpretation-science and comic genius……..Pastor Manning:

    http://au.youtube.com/watch?v=dCX5yBXkAHo

  4. http://au.youtube.com/watch?v=yTp_atr2G9E

    http://au.youtube.com/watch?v=tJc6uczdhE0

  5. “Graeme’s been quiet lately. A pity. that’s why we’ve had to rely on Homer for entertainment but he doesn’t quite cut it. He’s exasperating rather than funny.”

    Well I have a goldmine for you. Just put the following terms in the google.

    James Randi GMB

    • Incredible. I was stunned that these naieve credulons, posing as skeptics, were claiming that the holocene maximum was colder than today. So its just a repeat of when the environmentalist movement tried to make the medieval warming period go away. So you go to the wikipedia and that article is full of relentless lying. Then you go to the discussion page and there he is. The worst perverter of the wikipedia there is. STOAT. That is to say William Connelly. And here is this fellow in his systematic buggering of all wiki entries to do with historical data.

      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Holocene_climatic_optimum


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