Posted by: graemebird | January 7, 2009

THE NIGHTMARE OF FAUX-CONVERGENCE.

The nightmare of faux-convergence is a latitice-work of bigotry and stupidity  each backing eachother up with circular reasoning. The fraudulent areas of science are high-physics, cosmology, and the global warming racket. Check out this site.  

http://www.youstupidrelativist.com/00Newt.html

 

The thing about this site is it starts good, gets better, and is all true.

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  1. Are you sure you have the right Phil Plait? Just checking time zones and stuff… It would be unfortunate to expose yourself to potential legal redress should you get it wrong. Working from inside the jail is usually harder than from outside.

    Also, what’s with that guy’s hair on that website? Doesn’t he own a comb?

    rgds

  2. Don’t try it on idiot.

    Maybe you are right. Maybe Isaac Newton didn’t own a comb. Perhaps Einstein had a comb but never used it.

    Dummy.

  3. Try what on? What does that mean? Like trying on a shoe?

    How do you know Newton didn’t have a comb? Is not having a comb a prerequisite for science genius, then? How about bald people? Tycho Brahe didn’t have a nose – does that count?

    This is confusing…

  4. Incidentally, you are having trouble with your writing in your topic. Let me fix that for you now:

    The nightmare of faux-convergence is a lattice-work [spelling corrected] of bigotry and stupidity, [added a comma to separate phrases] each backing each [corrected missing space] other up with circular reasoning. [added a space at the end of the sentence] The fraudulent areas of science are high physics [no hyphen in that word pair – removed], cosmology, and the global-warming [but there IS a hyphen in between those two] racket.

    Much better! Carry on!

  5. Wow???

    You can spell. Aren’t you just magnificent.

  6. Don’t come here spamming my site. You are wasting your time. I’m always having to clean up after people like you. So your post will just get wiped. Say something intelligent if you want to have a post with some longevity.

  7. The first couple of points are sort of correct. Some of Newton’s work was derived from and an expansion of others.

    The last is very wrong. General Relativity reduces to Newton’s law of gravitation in the limit of weak gravitation fields, e.g. those exerted by masses less than that of the Sun.
    This is a simple result of the Mathematical Physics that the author diespises so much.

    The rest of the site smacks of someone who does not understand sciens and so thinks thta it is wrong.

  8. Zep: “Also, what’s with that guy’s hair on that website? Doesn’t he own a comb?”
    It’s Newton and its a wig.

  9. YOu cannot have two gravities dummy. Either gravity conveys a force or it doesn’t. There is no curving space thats just stupidity. But if there was it would be double dipping since we know a force is conveyed.

    You are a dumb bastard mate because you fell for all this shit. This bloke on the video didn’t.

  10. Great now physics is subject to the Great Ideological Shitfight. That’s all we need.
    .
    Interesting link Graeme. That dude might like to learn that calculus not only precedes Newton but its root go back to the Egyptians, the Greeks, the Chinese, the Indians and the Arabs. The Poms anf the Frogs were just next in the relay race on the way to the Scots, the Krauts and the Yanks.
    .
    And next the Koreans.

  11. Thats speculative at this point isn’t it Adrien?

    Look this guy is the real deal. He’s a fucking genius. The new Von Mises. Or the new Copernicus. I’m won over entirely since its the bringing back of REASON to physics. The return of the natural philosopher. This fellow isn’t just any gentleman with a few new ideas. He’s the real deal and I shall communicate with him personally to find out about this quality gear. If we are going to be turning rubbish into high grade diesel we need to know the TRUTH!!!!!!

    Speaking of needing to know the truth. The fucking Usurper is sure taking his time:

    http://au.youtube.com/watch?v=tJc6uczdhE0

  12. “YOu cannot have two gravities dummy. Either gravity conveys a force or it doesn’t. There is no curving space thats just stupidity. But if there was it would be double dipping since we know a force is conveyed.

    You are a dumb bastard mate because you fell for all this shit. This bloke on the video didn’t.”
    Am I the dumb shit?
    If I can then at least I can read. There is only 1 gravity. There are 2 theories describing gravity.
    There is Newton’s theory of gravity that is valid for week gravitational fields.
    There is General Relativity that has more general validity and reduces to Newton in the week gravitational field limit.

  13. Neither of these are valid. Neither of them tell us WHY OR HOW gravity creates a force. Yes you are a dumb bastard. Calculating the movement of orbits ahead of time tells us nothing about gravity as such. Newton gives up and just goes with spooky action at a distance. Which is no explanation at all. Einsteins theory is ludicrous. So yes you are a really stupid bastard. On account of the fact that you cannot so much as grasp what an explanation is.

  14. Don’t come here to talk idiocy. Physics is NATURAL PHILOSOPHY. If you are not doing natural philosophy you are not doing science hence you are not a scientist but a propagandist with a tape measure and an abacus.

  15. Physics is a NATURAL PHILOSOPHY that follows the scientific method.

    “Neither of these are valid. Neither of them tell us WHY OR HOW gravity creates a force. Yes you are a dumb bastard. Calculating the movement of orbits ahead of time tells us nothing about gravity as such. Newton gives up and just goes with spooky action at a distance. Which is no explanation at all. Einsteins theory is ludicrous. So yes you are a really stupid bastard. On account of the fact that you cannot so much as grasp what an explanation is.”

    They are valid scientific theories since they match existing data and their predictions have been tested (but Newton is now known to be valid oly for weak gravitational fields).

    NO THATS NOT RIGHT. NEWTONS PRINCIPIA IS A VALID SYSTEM WITH A GREAT BIG FAT HOLE IN IT. EINSTEINS THEORY IS NO VALID THEORY. AND WE DID NOT NEED IT TO PREDICT ANYTHING AT ALL. CERTAINLY NOT THE ORBIT OF MERCURY WHICH WAS ALREADY KNOWN. YOU DON’T NEED THEORY FOR SHIT YOU ALREADY KNOW. A BUNCH OF TABLES WOULD DO THE SAME JOB.

    By your criteria no scientific theory is valid bacause you can always as how or why of them and at some level get “because” or “the math says so” or “we do not know”.
    This includes all the ones that impress you so much in this blog.

    NO THATS NOT RIGHT. NEWTONS WAS VALID. BUT LIKE I SAID….. IT HAD A HOLE IN IT. THATS WHERE HE GAVE UP. THE REST OF IT WAS FINE.

    Science is not about answering why.

    YOU ARE NOT A SCIENTIST. SCIENCE IS PRECISELY ABOUT ANSWERING WHY. SO GET THAT FUCKING RIGHT FOR STARTERS YOU MORON.

  16. No the physical evidence does not back Einsteins theory up don’t bullshit Fisk.

    Its just a mathematical template of best fit. You don’t have any physical data to back it up at all. Don’t waste time writing big posts if there are lies in them since I’ll wipe 1000 words on the basis of any bullshit. Alternatively you might want to make sure you take a copy so you don’t waste your own work.

  17. What the physical evidence does not back Einsteins theory up?

    WRONG QUESTION. WHAT DOES? NOTHING. ITS A MATHS TEMPLATE FOR CALCULATIONS ONLY. AND ONE THAT WE DON’T NEED.

  18. “What the physical evidence does not back Einsteins theory up?

    WRONG QUESTION. WHAT DOES? NOTHING. ITS A MATHS TEMPLATE FOR CALCULATIONS ONLY. AND ONE THAT WE DON’T NEED.”
    You mean that you do not have any?

    NO NO NO WHAT I MEAN IS THIS: “WRONG QUESTION. WHAT DOES? NOTHING. ITS A MATHS TEMPLATE FOR CALCULATIONS ONLY. AND ONE THAT WE DON’T NEED.”

    Then whhy did you say “No the physical evidence does not back Einsteins theory up don’t bullshit Fisk.”?

    WELL THE REASON I SAID THAT IS BECAUSE THE PHYSICAL EVIDENCE DOES NOT BACK EINSTEINS THEORY UP DON’T BULLSHIT FISK.

    It is a pity that GPS has never worked.

    THE GPS DOES WORK AND ITS WORKING REFUTES SPECIAL RELATIVITY RELENTLESSLY. THEY JUST HAD TO MAKE A SINGLE ADJUSTMENT FOR THE WEAKER GRAVITATIONAL FIELD AND IT PRETTY MUCH STAYS ON TRACK WITHOUT ANY NECESSITY FOR SPECIAL RELATIVITY WHATSOEVER. REMEMBERING THAT VELOCITY IS RELATIVE. SO ITS NOT VELOCITY THAT CAN AFFECT ANYONES CLOCK. BUT A LOT OF OTHER THINGS MIGHT.

  19. “A SINGLE ADJUSTMENT FOR THE WEAKER GRAVITATIONAL FIELD”

    We are talking about gravity and Einstein’s theory (of General Relativity).

    NOW WE ARE NOT. WE ARE TALKING ABOUT THE GPS, WHICH REQUIRED NEITHER OF THE ABOVE. TRY AGAIN.

  20. No lying on this site Fisk. The GPS did not need either special relativity or its engulfing fudge factor at all.

    Clocks quite naturally run faster without gravity. Always have, always will. Its a one-step adjustment in contrast to any theories of relativity at all. They simply were not needed.

  21. Its pretty clear that your project to try and bring evidence to bear is grinding to a halt. Instead of focusing on one thing you are darting about, throwing out links as distractions rather then as powerful exercises in logic augmentation.

    Next we must focus on the question as to why the electron does not fall into the nucleus and why the nucleus does not blow itself apart.

  22. Don’t bullshit me Fisk. A mathematical function is something that you have on your desk. Either on paper or on your computer. An orbital is NOT a mathematical function. Its another name for an orbit. So you can stop lying about that for starters.

  23. An orbital is both a mathematical function NO YOU STUPID FUCK. A MATHEMATICAL FUNCTION IS SOMETHING ON YOUR PIECE OF PAPER, YOUR COMPUTER, YOUR TEXTBOOK, OR IN YOUR HEAD

    YOU CAN GET THAT RIGHT FOR STARTERS AND STOP BEING A STUPID CUNT.

  24. Yes a mathematical function is something on a your piece of paper, your computer, or in your head.

    RIGHT YOU STUPID CUNT. SO LETS NOT GET A MATHEMATICAL FUNCTION, WHICH BELONGS ON THE PAGE, MIXED UP WITH ANYTHING IN THE REAL WORLD, ALLEGED OR KNOWN, EVER AGAIN. AT LAST YOU ARE LEARNING SOMETHING. THICKHEAD.

  25. Try to say something intelligent on the leading thread Rachel. I think you are some dickhead in drag and you don’t have a grip on science.

    Lets see how you go philosophising about questions brought up on the leading thread.

  26. I have read with interest your blog, but I find it hard to grasp some of your points. I think you feel so strongly about the things you post about that you find it hard to stop and think about your wording when you write.

    GOOD PIONT. I USUALLY WRITE QUICKLY AFTER WORK AND MANY THREADS COULD USE A REWRITE.

    Are you saying that maths – or mathematical physics if you prefer (do you see the two as different? Why?) – can not be used to help understand physics, or should not?

    YOU CANNOT CONJURE REALITY BY WAY OF AESTHETICALLY PLEASING (IMAGINE WHAT AUTISTIC NERDS THESE PEOPLE ARE TO EVEN THINK IN SUCH TERMS) MATHEMATICAL MODELS.

    MATHS IS A SYSTEM WHERE ALL REALITY IS SUCKED OUT OF IT. ITS LIKE YOU CROSS THE RIVER OF HADES TO GET TO THIS MATHS OTHERWORLD. ONE,TWO, AND THREE APPLES BECOME ONE TWO AND THREE. WHAT APPEARS TO BE DEDUCTIVE PURITY ACTUALLY BEGINS WITH INDUCTION. IN THE SENSE THAT WE SAY IMAGINE IF THEY AREN’T APPLES OR BAILS OF HAY BUT INSTEAD THEY COULD BE ANYTHING.

    SO MATHS IS OTHERWORLDLY FOR STARTERS. ITS A PLACE WE GO TO POLISH AND DEVELOP CERTAIN TOOLS. IT IS NOT REALITY AND ONCE YOU HAVE YOUR TOOLKIT YOU CANNOT CONJURE REALITY WITH IT.

    THE IDEA OF A SINGULARITY IS A STUNTED GROWNUPS VERSION OF THE MARVEL A SIX YEAR OLD GOT FROM ONE OF THOSE OLD CASIOS WHEN HE TRIED TO DIVIDE ANY NUMBER BY ZERO AND IT OVERLOADED THE LITTLE CALCULATOR.

    AND THE IDEA OF THE BIG BANG OR THINGS GETTING INFINITELY MASSIVE PRIOR TO REACHING LIGHT SPEED ISN’T TOO MUCH DIFFERENT FROM THAT CHILDISH MATHS-KINDY-101 THINKING EITHER.

  27. GET BACK TO ME WHEN YOU HAVE EITHER AN HONEST QUESTION OR SOMETHING INTELLIGENT TO SAY. YOU BELITTLE BIOLOGY IN THE HIERACHY OF THINGS. ACTUALLY BIOLOGY AND CHEMISTRY ARE ABOUT THE BEST SCIENCES WE HAVE LEFT. THE LEAST POLLUTED. BUT YOUR AN EPISTEMOLOGICAL KNOW-NOTHING SO ATTEMPT NOT TO BE SO ARROGANT.

  28. FASCIST OPERATION KEELHAUL SUPPORTING GOOK.

  29. Holy crap. Don’t you people have some homework to do? Can you not go to one of my threads that is larger then a couple of paragraphs and raise some interesting points. Jack, Pratt though he is, actually raised a couple of interesting points.

    What is wrong with the rest of you?

    Education in Australia in the new millenium. It aint all its cracked up to be.

  30. MAYBE. BUT ONLY IF YOU MAKE A CONTRIBUTION AND SAY SOMETHING HALFWAY INTELLIGENT.

  31. COMMISERATIONS JACK.


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