Posted by: graemebird | February 11, 2009

Discouragement Is Enough To Kill/Environmentalists Will Continue Murdering People Unless We Stop Them.

Would it be fair to say that Al Gore is an environmentalist? Do you think that he is about to reconsider his position? Perhaps in light of the environmentalist movement murdering hundreds of Victorians (with at least equal culpability to any stray arsonist) do you suppose he will change his mind?

Well no he is not going to change his mind. And the mass-murdering, demonic, environmentalist movement is not going to stop killing unless we stop it. 

But surely people can change can they not? Surely Al Gore could look at what his ideas and his movement has accomplished in Victoria and reconsider things?

No chance at all.   Because if the environmentalist movement can muder tens of millions of black kids by DDT bureaucratisation, then they have GONE TOO FAR ALREADY…. and they will only be stopped from WITHOUT the movement. 

The same mentally deranged impulse,  that wants to stop property owners from cutting down their own trees on their own land, is the selfsame anti-human mind-demon that wants to put all sorts of hurdles, costs, and restrictions upon the use of DDT. And Al Gore is just typical of a fellow who is carrying around all these diseased and toxic memes. 

Here he is voting for cancer-and-trees over humans.  Think about what we mean by “humans” here. That is your beautiful girl who stuck with you in the hard times even though you know damn well you are hell to live with. Thats your boy who fought with you all his teenage years and you had to rent a flat for him just to stop the arguments and now he’s forty and your 65 and he thinks you are the best Dad in the universe and will not be gainsayed on the matter. Thats the young girl that lived up your road when you were a kid and played with your little sisters and she always looked up to you like she was starstruck but she was a tall young thing and you couldn’t see it working in those days and now 50 years on, your first wife has gone and you find that she still looks upon you the same and always did and nothing has changed…………. These people not worth 3 trees each in the view of environmentalists. 

Just as Victorian environmentalists in conjunction with the councils voted in favour of fireballs over country people and their property.

“The Pacific Yew can be cut down and processed to produce a potent chemical, taxol, which offers some promise of curing certain forms of lung, breast, and ovarian cancer in patients who would otherwise quickly die. It seems an easy choice – sacrifice the tree for a human life – until one learns that three trees must be destroyed for each patient treated.”

Did you know that he was that much of a lunatic? Did you know that your greenie environmentalists are also fascists of this ilk?  These are the people we have allowed to set us all up for harm, to lie to the kids at school, and to undermine the natural right that we all have to control our own property. If environmentalist are American ask yourself how many of them are against missile-defense? 99% perhaps?

So we see that the Victorian regulators put fireballs and trees above country Victorians, and Al Gore puts cancer and trees ahead of humans not as wealthy as himself.  But did you know that Al Gore was also one of those folks who tirelessly propagandized in favour of the DDT bureaucratisation holocaust????

“…Look no further than Gore’s tirades against another Nobel-winning achievement: the life-saving insecticide DDT……… 

…….. As late as 1996, he called DDT a “notorious compound” that “presented serious human health risks.” The tragedy is that on this issue, Gore could have used his tremendous political capital to make a difference in reducing malaria deaths.”

So its not as if he hasn’t had plenty of time to assess the damage that he has done. This is not some naieve 18 year old undergraduate we are talking about here.  

Yet he is still an environmentalist. How many people get cured of environmentalist extremism once they have been given over to it?

So the enviromentalists are not going to now campaign for property rights so that you can decide which trees to sell off for firewood without asking council permission. They are not going to stop lying about the evidence behind global warming. They are not going to stop controlling the last draft of every report coming out of the CSIRO to do with any one of their pet mass-lying campaigns. 

It is up to all of us to recognize that this movement is a mass-murdering movement, a menace, and not something that is going to just call it quits.

We can look at the movement and individuals seperately and while individuals within this movement may be of mixed characteristics, the movement as a whole is almost completely murderous. Imagine a cyclone and the damage that it can cause. Yet most of the billions of the air molecules that make up this phenomenon are really just going with the flow, are not acting violently in any shape or form, and are simply acting in line with the other air molecules around them. So while we can get particularly repulsive environmentalists who are fundamentally death-worshipers, you may yourself feel some disconnect with what I’m saying.

You may know family members who are environmentalist-lite and you may see them as really good people despite this mental handicap that just perplexes you somewhat. And the fact is that your judgement may be sound in this matter. The man or women in question may have redeeming qualities and may be like a typical air molecule in a cyclone who just goes with the flow of received opinion and tends to be a bit more moderate and reasonable then his other greenie associates.

So its important to think of the movement as something different to individuals within it, and those who it influences (which is, after all, almost all of us.)

While the opinions and goals of your friends may be hard to predict in advance, the direction of the environmentalist movement, personified and taken as a whole, is known well in advance and is entirely predictable. This movement is out to destroy property rights, murder and enslave humans, and dwindle their numbers down to almost nothing.  

This movement is also out to control what genes get to be passed on, and there are very many genes they do not approve of for perverse reasons. This is a repulsive movement that cannot be rightly disaggregated from the push towards global governance.  This is a horrifying and ugly movement that has no affinity for science or nature, but that is totally destructive to humans and is usually appallingly harmful to the natural world as well. 

If comparisons were to be made between environmentalism and the the philosophy that motivated the Third Reich we can say, quite without controversy, that the death toll from the environmentalist movement is already higher than the death toll that the Third Reich bequeathed to a less-than-fully-vigilante world.

But when it comes to the environmentalist movement ‘you aint seen nothing yet’.  If this hateful scourge-of-a-movement, acheives its goals…. that is to say if outsiders don’t actively exterminate this movement……… then the number of people victimised unto death will dwarf anything that the SS could have perpetrated in 1000 years.  The upper leadership of the National Socialists would wonder at the lunacy and sheer destructiveness of environmentalism. Oddball killers that they were, still they would shake their heads in disbelief at the mindless cruelty of it all.

Just for one example,  this movement wants the human race to produce and consume less energy per capita, and not massively MORE energy per capita, as any competent ethicist would mandate. This despite the fact that the average human lives on maybe 2 or 3 dollars a day.

Compared to the environmentalist movement the Third Reich were models of honour and straightforwardness. The National Socialists often told the truth. The environmentalist lie all the time and they get kids using phrases that never mean what they say. For example when an environmentalist uses the phrase “sustainability” he is not talking about sustainability………

Authentic sustainability is a bit of an obsession of mine. Pretty much everything I’m on about has sustainability at its core. But the environmentalists aren’t interested in sustainability though they have monopolised on the word.

When the environmentalist uses the word susutainability he is talking about the total destruction of property rights. So any farmer in country Victoria would have to know that he has no right to do anything at all on his property. He is frozen as to his options. He cannot follow business strategy or his own creativity. If he cuts the trees he can be fined or jailed. If he doesn’t cut the trees he can be accused of not making good use of his land and there may be consequences and repurcussions. 

The goal of sustainability,  in no way is about sustainability. Rather its about effective nationalisation of your property and therefore your person.

Think about the other phrases this movement has gotten people using. When people talk about “global warming” they aren’t talking about global warming in any consistent way. Usually what they mean, whether they know it or not is “INDUSTRIAL-CO2-RELEASE”

You will not find anything coming out of the UN or the CSIRO on this subject, where normal phrases are used in their normal sense. “Climate Change” is “global warming” when cold conditions happen to be uppermost in peoples mind. But “global warming” isn’t global warming. Rather its industrial-CO2-release.

The effect of pushing human dishonesty to its outer limits with this sort of phraseology, is that these people are able to lie all the time. The abuse of the language in this way allows these guys to lie all the time, and even to lie when they are telling the literal truth.

So what is to be done?

Well the first thing for any sane person to do, is to stop calling themselves an environmentalist. You are faced with the choice of finding a new name for yourself, or wrenching the name off these crazies and finding other names for them. 

I must confess to being a bit of a biodiversity festishist, with a sentimental weakness for big-brained mammals and wild horses.

Particularly those Brumby horses that enrage environmentalists so much that they steal your money and set off after these horses in helicopters to murder them in an environment of screaming fear.

So after you have deep-sixed the name, the next thing is to look within your own heart and weed out any of these hateful predjudices that the environmental punditti have thrust into you.

Do you fear CO2?   Co2 is life. Our planet would be a better place the higher were the levels of it,  right up beyond 1500 parts per million.

Do you worry about foreigners having lots of babies? Well this may well be a MILITARY threat to us. But it is no ecological threat, under capitalism properly-considered. Capitalism properly-considered, would include sound land use policies, no height restrictions on buildings, no zoning, nature corridors everwhere, and the homesteading of property;  only on the basis of initial powerfully-intensive use per area aquired.

Do you fear we are running out of energy?

We have a grave  (IMMENSELY GRAVE) medium term problem of the environmentalist movements own making.  The problem has been caused by environmentalism, interventionism more generally, and the advent of fiat-fractional-reserve particularly. But it is a medium-term problem unless we let it lead to our destruction. It may take us as much as three decades to dig ourselves out of this hole even under good policy. But if evironmentalism has its way we can never get out of this hole and industrial civilisation will collapse, and this is nothing we will be warning our grandchildren about. 

But there is no INHERENT energy problem. We have deep-sea Clathrates for 1000 years. We have coal that might peak in its production late this century, but only because of the poxy environmentalists hampering of nuclear power generation.

We have uranium for thousands of years before it could even begin to get expensive to gather. We have far more thorium then that. We have helium 3 to splurgE; readily available on the surface, without serious digging,  on all bodies in the solar system not protected by a thick atmosphere.

And we have Boron to dwarf all of the above in its abundance and potential as a power supply. 

For nearer term difficulties we can turn thin strips of previously utterly worthless coal, hundreds of metres underground, into syngas.

Thanks to some very righteous and entrepreneurial Australian pioneers (building on the work of brilliant German chemists) we can now exploit thin strata of very deeply buried coal, without digging any holes thicker then an environmentalists head.  

In the not too distant future we will be able to turn household rubbish into syngas and ceramics no problem at all.  But all these things would be made vastly more economic with off-peak nuclear electricity, nuclear heat, and nuclear-generated hydrogen. 

There is no problem with energy per se.   All we need is the capital, liberty, and clear and strong property rights and regulations , to enable us to just GET-OUT-THERE and gather all those ergs. 

Well what next then? 

So once you have stopped getting about calling yourself an environmentalist….. Once you have cleansed your inner-world of those received anti-life perversions, that the environmentalist movement has drummed into you …………..  well what next?

The strategy is to attack the first inner layer of the environmentalist movement. Not the calm nutters who will tell you that they want earths population of homo sapien to be destroyed down below 100 million. Not the outright genocidalists.   You don’t stop a cyclone by focusing on the eye of the storm. Its that first outer layer that you must stomp. Kill the first outer layer and the movement drifts into harmless eddies and warm rain showers. 

Environmentalism must be fought unto extinction on the local front particularly.     Think localism localism localism.

You people out in Country-Victoria or Country-New South Wales, must not suffer any environmentalist influences coming from the big city.       You must not elect locals who are soft-headed enough to be armtwisted by this sort of influence. You must vote for only the most absolutely staunch enablers.  The most committed staunch enablers of PROPERTY RIGHTS AND THE AUTONOMY OF THE PROPERTY OWNER.  No folks of a constitution likely to be nudged in th wrong direction on this matter can be elected even if they are 10 0ut 0f 10 types in all other ways. 

You want people who will enable property owners to do exactly what they want with their property.

If that means chase out all the foreign species, control the hydrology, and set up a glorious hyper-abundant ecology based around the local fauna and flora you must have everyone know that they can do this and not so much as humiliate themselves by asking council approval. 

And if someone wants to flatten all the trees on their place so they can more easily landscape their area, well you want people on council,  who would find it a social faux pass,  to even so much as ASK a landowner what he intends to do with his place. 

The next thing is we cannot suffer people of known environmentalist bent in public sector jobs. So Ken Henry has to go because; is he not a CO2-bedwetter? Gruen’s a CO2-bedwetter. What is he doing on the public payroll?  He ought not be let anywhere near the public purse. He’ll only blow billions of dollars on idiocy if you let him near treasury just for one example. And he cannot be allowed influence on policy more generally.

No environmentalist type can be allowed to get anywhere near public policy.  For one thing they will then start hiring all their treasonous amigos and in no time flat, they will be selling us out to the UN and the mosquitos both.

You think that this sort of thing is unnecessary but you are wrong.

 

WE WANT A REAL WITCHHUNT.

 

We need a real witch-hunt and a witch-hunt is the moderate way to go. A witch-hunt in this context is the epitome of moderate behaviour. Because if we get them off government jobs early on, via the real focus of a generalised witch-hunt, we will not have to do anything nasty later down the track.

The environmentalists will not stop their collective treason and killing.

 These are grown adults who have lived in Australia all their lives most of them. Why would they simply not let people cut down the trees close to their houses? Why would they require them to get permission for this? Or make them feel bad about it? Or block them outright? Why would they do these things?

Why did they not just listen to the fire experts, or better still not require property owners to ask council permission for any damn thing?

You know what fuel is. I know what fuel is. We all know about Australian bushfires. 

The environmentalists in their heart wanted these people dead. How could it be otherwise?  At the very least, like Al Gore, the environmentalists would put three trees ahead of one Country-Victorian. 

Always remember that it was environmentalists that murdered Brian Naylor. May his memory be King Hamlets ghost to you.

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Responses

  1. You claim to be a rationalist, but use the pejorative “demonic” to demean Vice President Gore. Isn’t that a little inconsistent?

  2. Not at all. But that was still at draft phase. And I think I’ve altered the wording to focus on the toxic memes within people and the toxic movement outside the individual……. I did this for strategy purposes and to lend some cover to the idea that, as individuals, people supportive of evil movements may have some human qualities and redeeming features, even though they have some callous and unfeeling aspects to them as well. I’m going to assume you came over from unleashed. Think of Doc Mercury. This guy is actively genocidal. But he might well be a “good bloke” in many ways. Yet you don’t want someone like that in public life, on the public tit, on the council or in cabinet. Too risky. The anti-human side can be made to grow under pressure, and these psychopathic tendencies can take over just when you need such a fellow to not let you down.

    Al Gore has really deteriorated into a poxy bastard you know. He really has.

    In reconstructions of the early Clinton years, when Al Gore showed up in cameo it was often a wonderful thing. A creative breeze entering a room full of idiots, know-nothings and lawyers. There he appeared FINALLY. Representing sane adults everywhere, and not a moment too soon in the narrative.

    But the nasty vicious statist side has grown and taken over. And let this be a warning to people. They ought not entertain as a luxury this sort of irrrationality and viciousness that we saw all along in the personality of Al Gore but that perhaps was somewhat recessive. People ought to not entertain this nastiness even in their inner life. Because circumstances can lead to you being corrupted and these nasty memes are a constant threat to your general righteousness and sanity.

  3. Is there a cream for toxic meme?

  4. WE WANT A REAL WITCHHUNT.

    Damn straight. Those namby-pamby pretend ones demean us all. I want to see pointy hats and broomsticks on fire! I DEMAND EYE OF NEWT!

  5. Yes there is creme for toxic meme. Its called MASS-SACKINGS.

    And listen to me Ant. Hasn’t your crowd burnt enough people this week?

    We don’t need to burn or hang them. If we get in there early enough, we don’t even need to have any ill-will towards them.

    As long as we get in there early and separate them from their government jobs. Nothing wrong with making people get a real job for a change.

  6. Hasn’t your crowd burnt enough people this week?

    Fucking creep.

    WELL HAVEN’T THEY? IF I WAS IN YOUR SHOES I WOULDN’T HAVE BEEN ABLE TO SO MUCH AS JOKE ABOUT SOMETHING LIKE THAT.

    THERE IS NO GETTING ROUND IT. THE ENVIRONMENTALIST MOVEMENT MURDERED THESE PEOPLE. ITS VERY HARD TO SEE THINGS ANY OTHER WAY.

  7. I AM JUST KNOCKED OUT BY THE POWER OF YOUR ANALYSIS. I SHALL SWEAR OFF BEING A FASCIST FROM THIS DAY FORTH.

  8. I’m just listening to some of the culprits blaming industrial-CO2 though they themselves were to blame.

    David Karoly on LNL. I got the link off your site.

  9. Mr Bird.

    Until you come up with conclusive evidence of collusion between the arsonists and any organized environmentalist, your accusations of murder will only make you a lunatic. (Environmentalists setting fire to a vital part of the environment doesn’t make any sense.)

    Your calls for “revenge” without proof of culpability makes you an apologist of violence, and if any harm was made to a member of an environmentalist group as retribution for the fires, you should be publiquely exposed as accomplice.

  10. Bravo Mr Bird
    http://winchesterquartermain.blogspot.com/2009/02/rougher-than-usual-handling.html

  11. There doesn’t need to be collusion of the sort you suggest. Arsonists and bushfires can be taken for granted but they didn’t used to always kill humans.

    But there is not doubt that the greenies murdered Brian Naylor, and they are all over the web unrepentant with new ideas to reduce property rights and further reinforce their policies.

    You’d have to say they were energized by all the excitement.

  12. I’m not calling for any sort of mindless revenge. I’m calling for mass-sackings from public jobs. Thats hardly an open-ended call for revenge.

  13. Winchester you are a fine prose artist. With your poets sensibilities on our side I am sure we can make traction.

  14. All over the net we see that the Greens are unrepentant and actually gunning hard for more killing. And it is not hard to find links which show their incredible callousness and culpability for these current deaths and the ones they hope to inspire down the track.

    Here is the wilderness society blatantly baying for blood:

    “LAST year the Wilderness Society published a six-point action plan to “reduce bushfire risks and help to protect people, property, wildlife and their habitat”. The society asserted that a “massive increase in hazard reduction burning and firebreaks is destroying nature, pushing wildlife closer to extinction and in many cases increasing the fire risk to people and properties by making areas more fire prone”.

    In fact there has been no massive increase in prescribed burning; statistics demonstrate that this practice has declined since the 1980s right across southern Australia. And no species of wildlife in Australia can be said to be on the brink of extinction because of prescribed burning. As we saw last weekend in Victoria, the real threat to wildlife is killer bushfires, which are a consequence of insufficient prescribed burning.

    The trouble with the society’s action plan to reduce the risk of bushfires is that it won’t work, and it is worth going through point by point because it reflects the views of too many government decision-makers. Its key recommendations are:”

    In the view of the wilderness society firebreaks are a cause of and not a solution to the problem. This is a really revolting movement. In retrospect surely the consistency of green actions is what is most horrific.

  15. “The tone of this Miranda Devine article is hyperbolic at times but are her conclusions really that far off? She has been writing about this stuff almost every year when a terrible fire breaks out and I have yet to read a strong refutation of it:”

    Where is the hyperbole? Would you think this was hyperbole if you had come up against this lunatic movement in the course of setting up your dream living environment in the country. Even now we see that Miranda was holding back. All over the internet these people are totally unrepentant and calling for yet more controls and less autonomy. They find this killing vivifying as judged by how energized they are to further press for more of the same. No-one in the green camp has come out for property-owner autonomy.

    FDB didn’t come out for property-owner autonomy at all. He still wants people to have to go on bended knee to the council for approval. And he lies and claims that were he in this position the approval would be granted for the specific purpose of clearing a firebreak. But the damage is done when you lie about CO2 on the internet and then force a landowner to put in an application. Thats enough Lambert-style obstruction to cause a collective problem.

  16. My goodness your remarks at Catallaxy are idiotic Adrien. You can be held up as an example and evidence for the fact that these forest fires were deliberate and part of a an obsessive Green setup. Because its not as if you would want the 50 000 dollar fines refunded and the people who formulated them sacked.

    You would want the fines and the anti-autonomy practices to still remain.

  17. “HAving just read through the thread, I feel somewhat reluctantly compelled to generally agree with FDB. On that day, with those temperatures and that wind, nothing short of bare ground would have stopped the fire. I believe passionately in hazard reduction burns for reducing fire risks, but on Saturday, if it could get started, that fire would have burnt over freshly bunt ground.”

    Come on Tim. We have a right to choose a disaster over a catastrophe. And clearing might not mean there was no problem. It would instead mean that there were few if any fatalities.

  18. Mr Bird

    “But there is not doubt that the greenies murdered Brian Naylor”

    Brian Naylor was sadly a victim of the bushfires, and you claim the “greenies” murdered him!

    You are therefore claiming the defenders of environment are linked to the arsonists.

    Regardless of what one thinks of environment activists, they have nothing to do with these bushfires and Mr and Mrs Naylor’s death.

  19. Environmentalists are not defenders of the environment. They are the great destroyers of the environment. They turned these areas into a death trap for man and beast. Millions of animals have died in gasping asphyxiation or in searing blistering, pain, thanks to this evil twisted philosophy.

    So don’t be putting words in my mouth. I was talking about environmentalists. I was not talking about defenders of the environment. And the defenders of the environment are the property owners who typically try to make their own property a better environment, with whatever resources they have left, once the public service goons have finished rifling through their pockets.

    This is particularly the case with our retired women of some wealth and means. The tendency is for such people to understand far more about horticulture then any latte-drinking wanker from the city who wants to make a dignified country lady get approval for anything her creativity and industry might come up with.

    Face it. The Latte-drinking posers who make up environmentalist ranks think of country Anglo-Saxons as scum. The new Jews as it were. Why worry if their flesh gets seared and all their dreams go up in smoke?

    A country Victorian woman who produces a garden of glorious species diversity and great visual beauty…. she is a defender of the environment. She is the real defender of the environment. But now her garden has been sent to hell by this demonic movement. Years of careful dedication trashed and made ashes.

    It is true that we didn’t homestead the land properly, leaving properties sitting back to back with a shared fence, and insufficient throughways, buffer zones, and just basically unowned land with understandings of how one might use this land as one were passing through.

    Its true that this sort of hyper-enclosure movement doesn’t lead to the best outcomes environmentally, or socially for that matter.

    But with that proviso aside, it is natural for free men to improve on nature in terms of diverisity and beauty. Mother Nature is a nasty little slut when it comes down to it, and she needs improving.

    Yes the greens murdered Brian Naylor and you aint seen nothing yet. Because they are totally unrepentant and are using the crisis, purely of their own making, as further fuel to cause ever more vast human eradication.

    They are running an energy-deprivation campaign in a world where most people live in the balance between getting-by on one hand, and real-poverty on the other. And in running this energy-deprivation campaign, the environmentalists are setting up hundreds of millions of people for the kill. Just as they set up Brian and all the others. There is no hoping that they will stop of their own accord.

    ONLY A WITCH-HUNT LEADING SO MASSIVE SACKINGS IN THE PUBLIC SECTOR WILL STOP THEM. Nothing else will stop them and there is no need to carry out this witch-hunt with rancour just so long as we know we can get many thousands of sackings.

    The environmentalist taxeaters are far too belligerent for anything but a witch-hunt, culminating in mass-sackings (public sector only) to stop them. Surely we owe the victims this much. To make sure that there is some sort of payback for what was done to them. And the assurance that we have at least reduced the level of idiocy in public policy.

    Over at one site yesterday I couldn’t get even one lefty to admit the clear and inescapable reality of the DDT-bureaucratisation-holocaust. So there is never any remorse for the evil that they do. Each new success in killing seems to make their shadows grow larger. They must find it all quite thrilling. There is some inner blast of excitement going on here with these guys. Or how else would you explain their behavour?

    Take some Westy twin away at birth and give him a rich person upbringing. Let him get a humanities degree and a job in the public service. While his twin brother is throwing rocks of some bridge with his mates, dazzling pilots with a laser torch, trying to wreck the traintracks and set them up for disaster, his twin will be joining the environmentalist movement and saying stupid things like “climate change is real.” Every environmentalist is like Edmund in King Lear. Casually wicked. Trying to manipulate events in the direction of catastrophe, not because of driving ambition but just out of the ho-hum hell of it.

  20. Peter,

    Don’t try to argue with this guy, he went completely coocoo years ago 🙂

  21. What is your reasoning here sister? Is this not simply your potty training talking? Are you not merely showing the results of the obsessive Soviet-Style propagandizing you have been subjected to?

    You need a matrix blue pill of some sort. Just what that would entail I would have no idea. But I suggest you stop hanging around those lefty ectomorph blokes you chicks get around with. I mean they are not really. Well they are barely. They aren’t even men are they?

    I mean you’d know more about this subject then me. But the lefty blokes in your network. Your circle of friends shall we say? Are you not now and then somewhat suspect about these people?

    You haven’t ever thought there might be something in the water?

  22. Graeme

    The international convention on genocide requires all signatories to take action to prevent acts of genocide.

    Do you now think it is time for the UN Security Council to authorise the use of extreme force against the genocidal greenies and the DDT holocaust deniers?

    WELL YES OF COURSE. BUT BEING AS THEY ARE IN FACT THE CULPRITS IT WOULD SAVE A LOT OF EXPENSE IF THEY JUST TOOK OFF THEIR RESPECTIVE TIES AND HUNG THEMSELVES IN THE WOMENS TOILET AT A PACE DEPENDENT UPON HOW QUICKLY THE DEAD BODIES COULD BE DRAGGED AWAY.

    WHAT ON EARTH WAS YOUR POINT TILLMAN? IS THIS SPIEL OF YOURS GIVING AWAY YOUR IRRATIONAL DEVOTION TO THE UN AND INTERNATIONAL ACCORDS MORE GENERALLY?


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