Here we have a sensational example of Fisk patiently, systematically, and thoroughly pulling apart the extremist filibuster and play-dumb-and-win ploy of Adrien.
So with all these legitmately aggrieved people, and some less legitimately pissed off to the nth degree (like myself) ….. why is someone like Adrien rubbing salt into their wounds. in a cosmic sense; by this massive show of obtuseness?
Well I don’t know the answer to that I think that he ‘s probably just a callous prick. But in line with the title of the thread I want to try and have a brief burst of sympathy for the dildo and use all my creative powers to reconstruct him as a human being as opposed to some evil Gollum-like necromancer and hard-core fascist.
And if he is indeed a human being. With some sort of human feeling, and some sort of authentic appreciation of the natural world, well then there could be a thing thats driving him which could explain part of it. And if there was such a thing I would say it is the case that few actual humans want to see people being scapegoated for the stupid decisions that they themselves might have made.
How many centre-rightists, for example, would have wanted to see someone like Eisenhower scapegoated and blamed for being swept along with Washingtons pro-Moscow policies during World War II?
For someone like me its just disturbing thinking about it. He turned out to be a pretty good President in some ways. A well-meaning fellow. But few people have the independence of mind of a Patton or a McCarthy, which is why Eisenhower, righteous man no doubt in many ways, was effectively swept along for a time, in the service of Moscow, and he became President, whereas the other two were murdered.
The 30’s were the RED DECADE in America. Perhaps even as much as a majority of graduates in America had been pro-Moscow. And of course the zeitgeist of Washington was fervently pro-Communist. But there was a clash in the making. Since in those days they STILL HAD A SENSE OF WHAT TREASON IS. They still took treason seriously in those days. When the people who had been supportive in some way or another, of Stalin, directly or indirectly, came face to face with the realisation that they had been pimped into helping treason along……. well you might get a typical whistle-blower situation on the fly. And the reason is you don’t want to see people being scapegoated.
McCarthy didn’t want to see people getting scapegoated either. He wanted to simply get an agreement going to remove any risky types from sensitive policy and military-defense positions. He didn’t want to name names. He was totally mystified and baffled when the commie-sympathisers (his fellow Senators too old to have served in the war and therefore to have been beyond reproach insofar as their patriotism or lack of treason was concerned) started callously insisting that he name names. Just a couple of days ago some commie-environmentalist filth fell back on that self-same deal of trying to single out people for massive punishement.
I don’t wish to single out 50 people for massive punishment. I want to have 50 000 people sacked from public tit jobs that they have no legitimate claim on in the first place.
Well I’ll cut the analogy short here. But I too don’t want to just pick out 50 proven culpable councillers and a couple of culpable magistrates and just abuse them to the hilt. I would rather spread the punishment further wider and deeper. And simply get anyone with a known environmentalist handicap out of the public service entirely.
I don’t have a fang-mark on the public teat. There is no particular reason why such failed analysts and ethically-challenged people should either.
But the bereaved in this affair must see justice. Somewhere, somehow, someone has to pay. All I’m saying is that rather than scapegoating some environmentalist centre-leftists, swept along in the council zeitgeist… all I’m saying is sack them all. Humiliate none that are repentant, jail few that are sorry and with the lightest punishments, but sack many tens of thousands that represent a future risk-factor in the public service.
I too have bursts of sympathy for the deluded. And I too don’t like to see a few unfortunates singled out for special life-shattering abuse.
Make tens of thousands of them get a real job in the private sector. Thats all the abuse I would hope for. But sadly this is not to be. We will be getting pre-emptive abuse from the other side and we will be drawn in to fighting back in kinds and getting behind whatever punishments can be applied.
If we are philosophers of righteousness like Lysander Spooner, then matters of great peril and injustice can be resolved to the temporary humiliation of some but to the long-term benefit of all. But if we slip up in our best practice of how reforms ought be handled, and if contention breaks out, then a relatively few will be punished out of proportion. And the problem will remain largely unsolved.
When righteousness and reason end and contention THEN STARTS UP AGAIN IN THE NEW ENVIRONMENT OF UNREASON things tend to follow on a path predictable in some aspects if not in others.