Posted by: graemebird | April 13, 2009

Eugenics: I Never Died Said He

Brought to the front December 2009, to remind everyone what Copenhagen and the cap and kill are really about.

I never died said he. That comes originally from an Australian poem by a contemporary of Banjo Patterson I believe. But it all escapes me. Somehow Joan Baez got on top of it. But then again she is a folk singer and its the job of these people to pull material from all over.

Its a strong poetic image for people who it hurts you so much to imagine dead. Perhaps the most powerful example of this idea came for me with one of the most likeable characters in the nightmare on elm street series.

There is one fellow who you feel that if he only stays alive he can look out for his little sister and she will be safe.

Its about six minutes in. YouTube has taken away the sound all of a sudden. The survivors are at his funeral. Suddenly his little sister sees the coffin open and he makes like the Big Boppa on Chantilly-Lace. Hello-Baby he says. Then he claims to his sister that ne never died. That his death was just a trick to fool Freddy. But he died just the same. Though perhaps damned by association its such a good movie that the scene is upsetting to this day because it makes you feel like a toddler who wants the writers to change everything and bring Bambi’s mother back.
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All the good things die but Eugenics never died. We need to look closely at it as if the subject was Cladistics and here we see two branches separate and come together again. And we see a sub-branch coming off from the Conservative normal human being side because normal sensible people can wind up supporting this sort of thing when the stress gets great.

Thats why Eugenics is so dangerous. Because though it starts off leftist it can turn bipartisan under stress. And it will be bipartisan under resurgent China don’t doubt it.

We will talk more about Eugenics. Our only friend here is the Catholic church and pretty much all others are suspect.

But Eugenics is in the very Genes of the environmentalist movement. Its in the genes of population control. Anti-abortion. No matter what legitimate pretenses these matters have… Its there lurking in the background.

Khan the seducer will be back.

But then he never did leave in the first place.

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Responses

  1. HE’S A SCHIZOPHRENIC KEYNESIAN ECONOMIST WHO AT LEAST DID BREAK FROM THE PACK AND RAISE SOME VALID CONCERNS ABOUT DEBT LEVELS. BUT HE’S NOT CLEAR ON HIS ECONOMICS DESPITE MAKING SOME GOOD POINTS. I’VE CHASTISED HIM FOR THIS OR THAT OVER AT UNLEASHED.

  2. “I never died said he”

    It has that bush-ballad lilt about it, but I think you’re just remembering something similar. Applied to Joe Hill it goes back to 1930.

    http://skeptically.org/literaryworksofjk/id2.html

    • Right but Banjo is before that era right? So try and think of one of his contemporaries. Like the one who argued with him in poetry as to which was better, city or country.

      It certainly could be my memory playing tricks. But I thought there was a poem of this sort coming out of Australia.

  3. dude I just like stirring you up.

    but seriously one day genetic engineering will become so developed that it will become widely available. how do you propose regulating it if at all?

  4. Mr B

    have you seen this?

    This is truly Constitutional War Fighting for the Twenty-First Century!

    Imagine putting out a Letter of Marque on a few Regime Leaders in need of a change.

    Thoughts?

  5. Privateers! What could possibly go wrong?

    Ron Paul is an idiot.

  6. No you are an Idiot. Fuck off.

  7. Ron Paul is a Patriot and a true Constitutionalist. He is a Defender of his Country.

    And what are you, MB? A smart arsed stooge with a laptop.

    MB, do you even know whose agenda you are advancing? You are a Judas but not for 30 pieces of silver just for some LOLZ.

  8. Do you even know what a Letter of Marque is? Anybody who was issued one would reap the plentiful bounty of some clapped-out fishing vessels and ancient ex-Soviet weaponry.

    Ron Paul is deluded. He remains an idiot.

  9. No that’s bullshit. Fuck off.

  10. MB’s solution to every problem is to raise a tax and then squeeze the government tit and spray us all with tit milk.

    Mr Paul has a very sensible proposal and MB shoots it down because it isn’t profitable.

    Bullshit. It’s private enterprise. It’s profitable by definition. And better than stealing my assets to fund some thieving government prick.

  11. Yeah of course its a good idea. And it would be great if our commercial boars were all armed appropriately. Thats just another level of defense. Its just embarrassing that these pitiful poor people with a little boat and a couple of rifles are about to get in the way of trade. If you have a big container ship, everyone armed, Special weapons as part of it. And one or two specailly trained marksmen then its easy to see whose going to win or lose these encouters. Piracy would stop really very quickly. If its not government backed they’ll all just get killed. But if it is government backed thats when you might need a stronger response.

  12. Good to see the quality of your arguements are up to their usual non-existent standards.

    Rambo nutjobs wandering the high-seas in armed vessels using international policy from the 18th Century. Really, it’s hard to see that anything could possibly go awry.

    But never mind Ron. I will continue to defend the right of yourself and Ron Paul to come up with stupid batty hare-brained ideas.

  13. Its just private security to deal with a few low-tech pirates.

    Nothing could be more obvious. Later on when our navy has been cut out in warfare it would leave us in a state of greater preparedness.

    Its not particularly clever what I’m saying. Its the obvious thing to do. I’m right and you are wrong as usual.

  14. have a look at these pricks making fun of protesters.

    these are the ones the wrath of Khan is reserved for

    http://larvatusprodeo.net/2009/04/16/this-has-left-me-with-a-bad-taste-in-my-mouth/

  15. Yeah I know MB.

    So long as you can get your Centrelink payment so that you can pick up a Shrek toy with your happy meal you are all set.

    But where does Shrek come from you fucking moron?

    What about the brave men and women who have to ship it here past the pirates?

    How about them?

    There’s no daddy Government protecting them!

    But you don’t give a shit. As long as you can shit on private enterprise.

    What a fuckwit.

  16. I’m not against euthanasia and sterilisation in all cases. One makes an exception for the Prodeo parasites and fascists.

  17. I know Khan.

    It’s almost enough to make you want to give up.

    You have true Patriots out there protesting Government Thievery and all the Cosmopolitan media can do is make it into a gay festival.

    Beyond disgusting.

  18. DON’T LIE FATTY.

  19. Well if you work in the mining industry I would have thought you would have some appreciation for Private Enterprise.

    Obviously you are in the back office doing HR or payroll. Perhaps you draw up the anti-discrimination policy to make sure that arse bandits and bum suckers get a good long suck on the tit even if they contribute nothing to productivity.

    One of those dudes who drives the big trucks into the Pit would definitely see the merit in Well Armed Privateers carrying Letters of Marque knocking off a few of these aquatic camel jockeys.

  20. EVEN THE MOST BASIC COMMONSENSE ELUDES YOU MD YOU IDIOT. THIS IS BY NO MEANS A HARD CALL.

  21. Imagine being as thick as People like MB. Here is is arguing that you go into pirate-infested waters and NOT be far better armed then the pirates.

    What a stupid cunt. And this idiocy is the same no matter what the subject is.

  22. Thats a big like Ed the holocaust-denier. His view is you have Malaria carrying mosquitos and you DON’T spray them with DDT.

    So what we are seeing is the same idiocy all the way down the line.

  23. No. I’m saying that handing the responsibility to a bunch of ‘roided up mercenaries with an inclination to shoot at anything that moves is a really dumb idea.

  24. Very funny:

    http://wonkette.com/407810/were-back-from-dcs-flagship-tea-party-and-yeah

  25. NO MB you fuckwit.

    Roided up mercenaries vs. seafaring towelheads is exactly what we want.

    As you say, what could possibly go wrong?

    Where’s the downside?

    Seriously, where is the downside?

    There isn’t any. It’s all gravy. So fuck off.

  26. I mean why are the camel jockeys in boats anyway? They are a desert people.

    Does. Not. Make. Sense.

  27. There is no downside at all is there it would be great to have these shipworkers learning firearms skills. Think how easy it would be to sink their boats and then steal wahatever gear they have got. Looters who loot the looter. A heart-warming occupations.

  28. You thimble-brained dope:

    http://articles.latimes.com/2009/jan/06/world/fg-blackwater6

  29. What’s your point MB?

    That all Arabs are Pirates?

    Well they aren’t you racist fuck. A lot of them are but some of them aren’t.

    The ones who aren’t Pirates should be allowed to go about their daily business. So long as it doesn’t involved blowing up civilised people.

    The rest will get what’s coming to them. Or at least they would if we applied a commonsense private enterprise solution to this garbage.

    Obama’s Kenyan and a raghead himself. So we know he isn’t looking for a Solution.

    But the least he can do is say, hey fellas, get some capital, buy some ships and some AKs and go out there.

    And the genius is that you just need some Seed Capital and that Letter of Marque.

    You get a small boat and some ex special forces dudes.

    Then you take a couple boats of the Pirates. Loot the looters like Mr B says.

    Now you have doubled!!!! your capital in one day.

    And so it goes. Perhaps you find a few Righteous Pirates who want to swap sides. And pretty soon it’s all sorted.

    Cost to the taxpayer: Nil.

  30. This CUNT MB seems to think that if you are unarmed and have a non-discrimination statement and easy access to taxpayers’ funds then there is no problem.

    What BS. Sometimes you need a profit-hungry psycho with an assault rifle out there defending your rights.

    That’s what built the British Empire.

  31. So what are the chances that a Kenyan Muslim Socialist will seek a free enterprise solution to Arab Piracy?

    Nil.

  32. Ah yes. Psychos with assault rifles, that’s just what we need:

    http://www.ktvb.com/news/regional/stories/ktvbn-jan2309-weapons_stash.215c212c.html

    No need to thank me.

  33. Well MB what do we do with that guy.

    Do you let him roam the streets of Akron Ohio or wherever the fuck?

    Or do you lock him up with three hot and a tot at taxpayer expense?

    Or do you give him his AK back, show him how to steer a zodiac, drop him in the Arabian Sea and point him in the direction of the $$$$$?

    try to answer without lying.

  34. Anyway what’s wrong with that dude, you fucking bigot?

    Sounds to me like a concerned citizen who assumes personal responsibility.

  35. Mr Bird

    It seems that there are still some good sodomites around

    http://online.wsj.com/article/SB123966833747115385.html

  36. I wuz fooled.
    President Obama is going to be a disaster. I thought his advisors would hold him back but they ain’t

    http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2009/feb/07/obama-signs-4th-pro-union-regulation/

  37. One day fatty MB may find some coherent argument out of all these links.
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    Why were you fooled about Barry Jason? There was no reason to be. He’s a Marxist. There was no reason to believe otherwise.

  38. Well at least you’ve come out an admitted you were wrong for a change Khan. Must have been like pulling teeth. There is a less than even chance that he was born in Hawaii, and only a tiny chance that he is eligible as judged by prior understanding. I suppose in a couple of years time you’ll come out and admit that too,

  39. Ed the holocaust-denier must be realising that his blanket denials and filibuster is starting to wear thin. So now he’s put me on moderation:

    “Yeah well they’ve been lied to. So they take it and they don’t die. I am sticking to the facts. You are lying again.

    You see people believe you guys if you lie to them enough. You ought not take that as confirmation of your ludicrous anti-science propaganda. Beria killed Stalin with rat poison. He would have been in deep shit if he had used DDT because it would not have worked.

    In Uganda at the moment town halls are full of holocaust-deniers resisting government spraying. For one thing central government spraying is a massive intrusion in countries that are still divided along tribal lines. But its not clear that private citizens have access to DDT in all countries. Certainly they don’t in mine. Anyway you have grownup African men and women protesting that the government is killing people in broad daylight with its DDT spraying. The exact opposite of the truth so the leftist holocaust still continues.

    As we have seen leftist anti-science idiots all use many different methods to obstruct energy production. No one book or tactic explains their pack-animal co-ordination to deprive us of energy any way they can. And so it goes for DDT. In the midst of blanket denials and non-stop lying they will do anything to get black people killed. They’ll even give out bednets as cover to stop anyone using DDT. There is no end to the methods they use. I call it Lamberting. Its endlessly creative discouragement. From simple lying to black people. To closing down a manufacturing plant, to discouraging the central government via aid programs. You name it. You holocaust-enablers are flat out doing it. Lying about history of your obstruction to DDT the lifesaver even as you blacken the name of CO2 the life-giver.”

  40. ““DDT didn’t come close to eliminating malaria from Africa, else we’d not have the problem today. With DDT being used broadly, malaria got under 2 million deaths a year. Now, it’s about 1 million deaths a year,”

    What a ludicrous interpretation. How about a timeline to go with this idiots view of the situation.

  41. Revanchist Eugenics On The March

    “Lets just go through Eds argument. Ed is a failed history teacher posing as a scientist.

    “1. DDT is the wrong pesticide to use against dengue vectors. It kills the predators about ten times as effectively as it kills the mosquitoes.

    TOTAL IDIOCY AND LYING ON THE PART OF ED.

    Consequently, within a couple of weeks the mosquitoes come roaring back, about ten times as bad as they were before. Do you have dengue? Hey, guess what: You just multiplied the vectors that spread it by ten times.

    SINCE ED WAS TELLING LUDICROUS LIES IN THE FIRST PLACE HIS INFERENCE THEREFORE IS IDIOTIC.

    2. Wasting time with DDT prevents pesticide appliers from getting to the right stuff, so nothing is done with pesticides to slow dengue.

    THERE NEED BE NO TIME WASTED. PEOPLE WHO ARE NOT LUNATIC LEFTIST CAN PLAN ACTIVITIES IN PARALLEL.

    3. Government agencies who spend time spraying DDT generally don’t get around to doing the non-spray activities that actually prevent dengue. So government prevention programs go by the wayside, too.

    THATS JUST ANOTHER LIE. ED LYING CONSTANTLY. AS WE HAVE SEEN WITH FRED SOPER INSECTICIDE USE DOESN’T MEAN ONLY INSECTICIDE USE. TOTAL LIES ON EDS PART IN SUPPORT OF HOLOCAUST DENIAL.

    So thats how this moron came up with the total opposite of the truth on my blog. I commented that is was disgraceful that we didn’t have access to DDT. And this moron shows up and reckons that this would mean a catastrophe of infection.

    This is how powerful the need to justify the holocaust is. With this sort of loony-toons made up history and science.”

  42. why do you keep calling MB ‘fatty’???

  43. Because MB is presumably DH after I kept pronouncing his graffiti posts “spam”. That has an effect after awhile.

    Now Khan I hope you don’t mind if I log some of my wisdom from another website here so that it will not be lost to posterity.
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    “But considering the editing process at Wiki, if Wikipedia says it, it’s most likely the best science.”

    You moron.

    Look you cannot fake it Ed. You could never have any affinity for science or for the practice of history in 1000 years. Since leftists are tribal and intellectual pursuits must be be done as if the individual has to verify all the important building blocks of his claims.

    We have Golf for sportsmen who are not athletic. Jump cuts in rock videos for dancers who cannot dance. Mathematical physics for mathematicians who are not natural philosophers. And now we have wiki science for people who don’t understand anything about science.

    In wiki-science people like William Connelly take control and obsessively bring the alleged consensus in line with tribal leftist positions. These people are children of the cultural methodology known within the communist party as “democratic centralism” Where though they debated things into the ground when all was said and done “Truth” was the communist part position. All thats happened lately is that the “scientific consensus” is held to be truth. But leftists then rig the game and try and dictate what the consensus is.

    None of these shenanigans has anything to do with the truth of with science.
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    digression:

    “’m a bit more bemused that Graeme seems to have no problem in exposing Africans, among others, to significantly higher rate of cancer but then turns around and claim we’re the ones supporting a genocide.”

    You idiot. DDT is not a carcinogen. Thats just leftist lying. Leftist lying is not the same as science dummy.
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    Anyway if Matt really did study plate tectonics at University, which is probably just another lie, but if he did then clearly he was lying. Because the most striking evidence in favour of Plate tectonics is that if we get rid of the Atlantic Ocean all the continents fit snugly together. And the fossil record backs this observation up so we have convergent evidence in this regard.

    So immediately we have marvellous convergent evidence for plate tectonics. But only if we disregard the fact THAT IF WE GET RID OF THE PACIFIC AS WELL THE CONTINENTS ALSO FIT SNUGLY THE OTHER WAY. And the fossil record also backs this up.

    That may not be convincing to you but it does constitute evidence. If that doesn’t constitute evidence then someone has decided to swap our language around and he ought to stop it.

    So one way or the other Matt lied. And so its only reasonable that he lay low for awhile.

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  44. SO ITS JUST A MASSIVE COINCIDENCE THAT THE CONTINENTS FIT NEARLY PERFECTLY TOGETHER BOTH WAYS ON A MOON-SIZED PLANET. YOU REALLY ARE A DUMB SHIT FATTY.

    IF YOU DON’T HAVE IT BY NOW FATTY YOU’LL NEVER GET IT. TOO LATE TO GROW A NEW BRAIN FELLA.

  45. SO YOU ARE CLAIMING THAT THE FACT THAT THE CONTINENTS FIT TOGETHER ON A SMALLER PLANET IS JUST A COINCIDENCE NOT REQUIRING OF SOME THEORY TO EXPLAIN IT.

    YOU ARE AN IDIOT FATTY. THERE IS NO GETTING AROUND THAT.

  46. You parroted Wikipedia and claimed that there was no evidence for the growing earth theory. Thats a lie. A blatant one. Since the continents fit both ways, that they fit without the Atlantic was the starting point for evidence for Plate Tectonics in the first place.

    So a blatant lie on your part Matt. Compounded by you not coming clean with your lie. I already told you what you lied about you blockhead.
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    Notice this. Nick Kelsier is so genocidal or post-modern he cannot believe that people would be concerned or get hot under the collar when leftists decide they want to murder millions of people.

    Its astonishing. He is just overcome with disbelief. He cannot even so much as imagine that normal people, non-parasites and non-psycopaths, who understand what the left is doing could disapprove. In his view this is unthinkable and must be some sort of act.

    So if leftists are murdering babies. Like if Che Guevara is killing children, or if eugenicists are banning local autonomy and flexibility in fighting malaria and opposing DDT use, so that millions will die, if a normal average Joe, without genocidal leanings catches them doing this…. AND GETS ANGRY ABOUT IT… well thats a fake-up in Nicks view.

    Holocaust-deniers and enablers are just so certain that the rest of us want all these black kids dead that telling them to “hey stop that” is thought to be a statement of mixed motives.

    Look what we see above. We see Nicks eugenicist and holocaust-denying cover story… the idea that DDT is a carcinogen, which it isn’t…

    And we also see the total belief that any body could even be concerned with leftists running slow-motion murder plans.

    “I’m a bit more bemused that Graeme seems to have no problem in exposing Africans, among others, to significantly higher rate of cancer but then turns around and claim we’re the ones supporting a genocide.”

    Its just unbelievable isn’t it. That I can know that you are hell-bent that these kids be murdered through high-food prices, malaria and energy-deprivation and if I’m not happy about it I’m just faking it in your view.

    So you see the holocaust-supporter doesn’t even so much as BELIEVE his opponents. We may be talking 2nd and 3rd generation parasitism here. They talk about an inter-generational underclass. Generations of welfare. But they seldom talk about a similiar phenomenon where people can be public service taxeaters up to the third generation and may not even have met anyone who would think the slightest bit different from them.

  47. Taxeater Sinclair Davis now declares that everyone ought to pay income tax. It would be great if he quit his taxeating job and started paying it. But this is a totally untenable idea. What with family payments to wipe out, and old age pensions to wean over time, nothing could be more stupid than this concept.

    You can take the man out of Africa. But can you take the Africa out of the man? Sinclair sticking up for his tribe rather than voting for good sense here. We need to abolish the company tax but get rid of the personal income tax by various tangential exemptions but basically by lifting it straight up from the ground. Thats the only way to take the whole population with you. People will understand if its all about mass-sackings of taxeaters and the closure of bureaucracies by the bakers dozen. Sinclair doesn’t see this because he’s not a serious free enterprise economist, and has a more static view of the situation.

    The static view is that the people who aren’t paying the taxes will thereby vote for more government since they won’t have to pay for it. There is some truth to it, but its basically a kindy version of public goods theory 101. There is room for leadership and communication here. For individuals to try and educate the public. But Sinclair is so unsound in this regard he refuses to trash the idiotic Keynesian multiplier (thats if he isn’t stooged by it himself). And he will not talk about mass-sackings.

    So he isn’t serious. His lack of seriousness is what has lead him down this cul de sac.

    There is more than one way to skin a cat, or so one hears, but the problem with this particular take on matters is that there IS NO overall strategy. Its reminiscent of the supply-sider idea. That tax cuts can lead to greater government revenue. Well so what? What then? You’ve just created more parasitism without a further step to matters. One-step thinking. There is no sense of time, justice or strategy in the ideas of even mildly rightest Australian economists.

    Just wondering about the mental deficiency of people who fall for the Keynesian multiplier. Just the same mental deficiency as all those who have fallen for the global warming fraud. They simply cannot lock in two things in their mind at once. Or lock in one thing and then build a further implication on that.

    With the multiplier it never seems to occur to people that increasing spending isn’t all that often a crash-hot thing to do in the first place and its INFLATING matters. Then you have to overlay that with the knowledge that fiscal policy CANNOT increase spending except by serendipity or by the government debt acting like a sort of money substitute or partially so… then you have to overlay that with the knowledge that if you want to do this cash would actually work…….

    … by the time you get that far an idiot like Cambria, just for example, will be accusing you of wanting inflation, years long assurances that you are in favour of growth-deflation to the contrary not-withstanding. I’ve encountered this same idiocy so many times it really amounts to a mental defect in the person in that they are simply not cut out for economic science. So it appears on the fact of it Sinclair and the others were never up to the study. Because they do not have the facility of mind to lock in and overlay these assumptions.

    Which is why of course every last one of these dummies, Cambria included, though he isn’t an economists book-holder, has fallen for the global warming hoax. You start off pointing out that warming would be a good thing if indeed it was possible. But by they time you’ve moved onto the next constituent part of the reality of the situation they’ve lost that first overlay. So Cambria, Sinclair, Humphreys et al are simply not capable of coping with the controversy, lacking that ability to understand something, lock the assumption in, and move to the next part of the argument.

    As soon as you get to the part where CO2 does not warm the globe except perhaps by some tiny amount they’ve already lost the first understanding that they were supposed to overlay.

    As a result of these mental defects absolute leftist lunatics are always beating these tribal rightists in public debates. Sinclair once went so far as to imply that the real problem with Nick Gruen trashing the first 11 billion of other peoples money to the direct detriment of the economy…… was that the fuckwit Gruen hadn’t done the requisite computer modeling. Here Sinclair is with the advantage that he’s closer to the right position policy wise (in that he would have wanted to trash the fiscal situation less) and in the position where he is critiquing an ignorant lunatic like Gruen….. and he pisses away his advantage.

    Guys like Sinclair and Humphreys don’t appear to know how much harm they do. They may as well be working for the other side.

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