Posted by: graemebird | May 12, 2009

The Telltale Heart In All Three Basements.

In all three 9/11 basements molten steel was found and it was still there 21 days after the attack. Molten steel. Molten steel in all three buildings.

There is only one possibility with this story. And that is that the supports for the three buildings were cut by Thermate, producing the molten steel.

“You’d get down below and you would see molten steel. Molten steel running down the channel rails….. like you are in a foundry (other person.. “like lava in a volcano) like in a volcano”

The government, NIST and FEMA deny this. The head engineer at NIST denied outright that there was molten metal in the basements. You ought to see his performance. No science all derision.

“I know of absolutely no way…. no eyewitnesses who says so… nobody whose produced it….”

Well what do you know you fucking useless cunt. Would you know it if me and the boys were banging your wife? You are a cunt but you are not the most perceptive cunt in the world. And just ignore all that dried mucous in your wifes hair brother. I’m sure you are under the curse of the lone paradigm on THAT score as well.

Your wife will read this and it will, as if by magic, inspire her to be unfaithful to you don’t doubt it you cunt.

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Is this abuse called for? You bet it is. Millions of lives have been altered as a result of the bad information given to the public and the administration by these utterly useless taxeating lifer-cunts. And it would be the case anyway that millions of lives would need to be altered as a result of these attacks. But you can make better decisions if you are getting the right information.

It makes a difference if Iran kills Saddam after the first half of his trial or if American boys string him up just as soon as they can and go home. Or destroy the Iranian regime also by air and proxy warfare and go home. Yes its true that Saddam, the most likely driving force behind the 9/11 attack, is now dead. But it makes a difference why he is dead and the circumstances of his death, and all the decisions that the Americans make and all the information they relied upon to make these decisions. These things make a difference.

All this mucking about by the Americans, was partly because the administration suspected, but did not know, if Saddam was involved. And the idea was for everyone to do his job so we could sort out the most likely scenario. But some taxeating cunts, including this arch-asshole from NIST, didn’t want to do their job. They rather wanted to try and control policy by restricting what they did and didn’t study, what they did and didn’t say, and what they did and didn’t find out.

We have this absolute cunt from NIST denying even that there was molten steel in the basement. Despite the multiple testimony of the people that were working there that there was molten steel in the basement.

The molten steel was “RUNNING” according to multiple testimony, and still there (according to video footage showing the extreme heat still present) when the cameras got down there. We have enough good video to confirm the fundamental truth of the story of the multiple witnesses.

So the Cunt from NIST denies that the molten steel even exists, and claims there was no witnesses to this molten steel. So he lied. But then you drag this cunt into court and the court is going to view the transcript. And they will say he wasn’t lying. That he wasn’t trying to ridicule the questioner like a complete cunt. But rather he said …. “I know of no…..”

So we are faced with this useless cunt. Whose job it is to know. And he claims…. he lies and claims he knows of no witnesses who have seen the molten steel that was there.

Milllions of lives on the line here. The future of the Republic since if enemy regimes can pull this off then planting nuclear bombs in cities is childs play….

Millions of lives on the line and this cunt cunt does the reach for the bottled water cunt act, just like John McCain tried on.

Never let any cunt get away with that again. This cunt from Nist is PAID TO FIND OUT. If he cannot do that with some sort of integrity he’s a thief. He projects disdain on the questioner and reaches for his bottled water LIKE A COMPLETE ASSHOLE since tapwater is 1000th the cost. When he lays out the bottled water tactic, its time to walk up and break his nose.

You think of what trouble this asshole has helped to cause by being an unscientist and lying cunt. Its time we took vengeance on the unscientists.
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Here is a video of the buildings being demolished from an angle that you won’t have seen before. With the South Tower we see what we now know to be Aluminium-Oxide spurting out of one of the windows. This is happening prior to the collapse. The time signature is a little after the time that Wiki says the South Tower collapsed but thats neither here nor there. The Tower is still intact. On this video you can see a stream of Aluminium Oxide smoke blasting out of one of the windows. Then you see a really massive explosion. And it IS and explosion. Its not anything falling or crumbling its a full-blown and truly massive explosion.

Then truly humungous clouds of Aluminium Oxide filling up everywhere PRIOR to the main full-blown collapse of the South Tower. This is just what we would expect. Since the explosions had to go prior to the building giving way. You start to see this sort of thing once you know the real way it was taken down.

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Responses

  1. The steel was still molten after 21 days? Wow.

  2. Look at this Mr Bird.

    Your former wog ally has sold out and apologised to Quiggin

    http://andrewnorton.info/2009/05/correction-about-john-quiggin/

    • Very strange. JC has been bullshitting flat out for at least a year now. Why worry about this one mix-up? What has happened there is JC has been armtwisted by Norton because Quiggin has threatened Norton. Quiggin sends everybody threatening emails because he wants to maintain his place in the trough. Nortons a sissy. One of these ecotomorphic girlymen. Notice that there had been a number of accusations and Quiggin managed to force a backdown on only one detail.

  3. PS Like Mr Hanson I am lying low.

    I am not in good health, my savings depleted from my legal battles, most of my farm sold off. Anymore troubles and travails Mr Bird and my heart will give out.

    These are dangerous times we live in with Red Chinese spies around every corner.

  4. I seriously urge you to reconsider your opposition to the internment of Orientals Mr Bird. The cause needs more able and eloquent advocates like you. As good British stock we can continue to treat the celestials humanely while we sort out the enemy aliens amongst them. I may miss my chow mein but it is for the good of the country.

    • HA HA. DON’T GO THERE. ITS NOT ASIANS THAT WE HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT BUT WHITE-GUY SELLOUTS.

  5. Winchester do you see the white Aluminium Oxide. The massive explosion BEFORE the South Tower collapses and the way the dense clouds of what we now know to be Aluminium Oxide pouring out of every orifice prior to the visible collapse of the building?

    This amateur video really gives the story away this time.

  6. How do we know it’s aluminium oxide and not other debris? Has any scientific expert verified this?

    • Well did you notice the smoke after the first plane hit. And you had a lot of black smoke. Like typical of what you’d expect from the initial scenario where you have more fuel then oxygen so you are getting partial combustion. And then you notice that it keeps burning pretty black which is what you’d expect from plastics, rubber, carpets and all that gear.

      But you expect two outputs from the Thermate reaction. You would expect orange molten metal and and that more light-gray-white smoke and real pillowy. Totally different from the other type of smoke.

      No its wasn’t tested directly on the day. But what was tested was the dust. And a signature of the Thermate reaction, because its so powerfully hot, is micronised iron spheres. You see it melts the steel but it even vapourises the iron I think. And then when the iron goes back to being solid, after having been a gas you get these microscopic spheres that cannot pre produced any other way. They found other signatures like sulphur content.

      And at the start of the incident. There was orange molten metal dripping out of one of the windows. NIST put it about that it was an aluminium alloy that could melt in a range all under 700 celsius, depending on what the alloy was. They claimed this but they didn’t back up their claim with actual experiments. You see they know that molten Aluminium is silvery. But they just made it up that it could have mixed with other gear or the alloy was such that it could burn orange at temperatures not requiring a Thermate reaction. Then they keep pushing it how high they think the fire temperatures might have been. So they wen’t to an estimate of 1000 degrees Celsius to try and make that work. But most early estimates suggested the temperatures would be less than that.

      But never mind taking their possibility of temperatures at 1000 degrees Celsius, physics lecturer Stephen Jones tried real hard to get the molten Aluminium to turn a bright orange colour and everything he tried failed at 1000 degrees.

      I’m assuming it from the total case. You go with one paradigm you assumes one thing. Like that its not smoke at all perhaps. That it is rather pulverised concrete or something and that its a dust not a smoke.

      But then you have that same white signature blasting downwards at an angle from a window LIKE A LIVE CHEMICAL REACTION GOING ON WITH FORCE RIGHT IN FRONT OF YOU.

      You can go on the YouTube and see for yourself other buildings falling over. The concrete sure pulverises. But what you don’t get is that pillowy reaction of what I think is Aluminium Oxide coming out of every conceivable orifice down at the street level. The pulverised concrete doesn’t seem to look anything like that. And notice that that billowing came directly after the big explosion. The big explosion that had no way to happen WHATSOEVER expect for a planted explosion.

      So they want to make this thing fall real quickly. The biggest pole in the tent is the thickest columns. They would get the thermite growing pretty much straight away on those and up high where people had already been evacuated. That would have to start first up.

      But supposing you’ve got all the thermate reactions trying to weaken this middle column? Well your thermate eventually isn’t going to be adhering properly to the thickest column right. So you aren’t going to be able to get it to eat all the way through. When you know that option is tapped out you finish the job with a big explosion….. then you’ve got to kick off all the other thermate reactions to bring the whole thing down immediately. Which is what you see. The thickest part working right from the time of the crash, then the explosion, and all the smaller thermate reactions then kicked up at once.

      The only way to do it when you think about it.

  7. RIGHT AWAY WE HAVE A FUCKING MORON WHO IS SO FUCKING STUPID THAT HE HIMSELF DOES NOT REALISE THAT HE HIMSELF BELIEVES 9/11 WAS A CONSPIRACY.
    EVERYONE ON THIS PLANET BELIEVES THAT, BOTH THE ATTACK IN 1993 AND THE ATTACKS IN 2001, WERE A CONSPIRACY. EVERYONE IS UTTERLY UNANIMOUS ON THIS MATTER. BUT IN THE CASE OF SOME PEOPLE, WHO TAKE THE DR MORIATI VIEW OF TERRORISM, THEY THINK THAT A BLIND MAN WAS RESPONSIBLE IN 1993 (NO REGIMES TO SEE HERE) AND THAT A MAN WHO LIVES IN A CAVE WAS RESPONSIBLE IN 2001 (NO REGIMES TO SEE HERE).

    SO WE ARE UNANIMOUS ON IT BEING A CONSPIRACY THEORY. BUT THERE ARE THOSE WHO TAKE THE SCIENTIFIC APPROACH AND THEN THERE ARE SUPERSTITIOUS TYPES WHO SOMEHOW KNOW, WITHOUT ANY APPARENT SOURCE OF THAT KNOWLEDGE, THAT THERE IS NEVER REGIME ACTION IN TERRORIST ATTACKS, NO MATTER WITH WHAT PRECISION AND ORGANISATION THEY ARE CARRIED OUT AND NO MATTER HOW THEIR NO-REGIMES SCENARIO DEFIES SCIENTIFIC REALITIES AND ANY SORT OF PLAUSIBILITY TEST AT ALL.

  8. I’ll try and get some pictures of thermate so you get used to the look of the bright orange molten steel coupled with the off-white Aluminium-Oxide gas. It all seems reminiscent to me and it reminds me of when I used to muck about with aluminium foil, and caustic soda and other gear.

    We used to play around with petrol. Always attempting to make a petrol bomb and always failing. Normal hydrocarbon fuels will not blow up unless they are contained in some way like with that fireball you saw when the planes crashed. There is absolutely no chance thereafter of a major massive secondary explosion like the video shows us. If that is what it looks like it quite literally could not have come from the plane fuel after all that time. No chance at all. The wiki claims that the plane fuel was all gone within a few minutes at the most. So the explosion you saw is a definite plant and its the final phase of trying to knock out the strongest core column after you’ve tapped out your thermate melting option.

    Here is some Thermate on its own. Since its not attached to any steel you aren’t getting the orange liquid. But note the nature of the reaction. Compare that to the Aluminium Oxide being forced out that window on a downward vertical angle.

    I may have posted this one already. Its the molten metal in the 3 basements:

    But 3 minutes in you get a second thermite reaction (thermite is less powerful then Thermate which includes sulphur) and you get of brief view of some of that off-white smoke.

    Really when it comes down to it Thermate is about the only thing you would ever try to take the buildings down with. What else could melt the thick steel columns without a massive series of explosions? Which would neutralise the plane cover story!!!!

    Its not hard to form this conclusion since if one was to plan the matter over there is no other way you could try and do it. Driving planes into the building isn’t going to do the trick. Plus planes alone is inconsistent with what we see here. With the molten steel in all three basements. With the billowing smoke prior to the collapse but after that massive explosion.

    There is only one consistent picture here to be had.

  9. No that’s bullshit. It was a volcano. I have evidence. WELL YES ITS TRUE THAT ONE OF THE FELLOWS DESCRIBED THE MOLTEN STEEL RUNNING DOWN THE GUIDE-RAILS LIKE LAVA. AND HIS WORKMATES CONCURRED. NOW WHETHER THATS AN EXAGGERATION OR NOT THATS A DEAD GIVEAWAY THAT THIS WAS THERMATE.

  10. NO THE WORKERS SAID MOLTEN STEEL. MOLTEN ALUMINIUM WOULD HAVE NO POSSIBILITY OF GETTING DOWN THERE AT ALL UNDER PLANES ALONE SCENARIO.

    SO YOU LYING. YOU DON’T HAVE ANY EVIDENCE FOR MOLTEN ALUMININIUM WHICH ISN’T ORANGE. ITS SILVER. AND THERE IS NO WAY IT COULD GET DOWN THERE IN THE FIST PLACE.

    SO YOU JUST LIED YOU LYING CUNT. YOU MADE IT UP. AND YOU ARE NOT THE FIRST PERSON TO LIE ABOUT THIS MATTER.

  11. If the workers had seen molten aluminium, with its silvery colour, they would have said so. But they had to deal with molten steel. So you are lying. And NIST goes point blank against there being molten aluminium in the basements.

  12. Actually the workers identified molten metal, not steel.

  13. No you are lying. They said molten steel. Now where is this molten Aluminium lie coming from? If it was molten Aluminium it would be silver and not orange. And how would it have gotten down there? Given the temperatures involved with the plane alone theory, meaning it would solidify again prior to getting that far.

    Where is the lie coming from in the first place? No-one saw any silvery liquid metal. No-one. Not a single report of this. They all said orange or orange-red.

  14. Mr B

    Read this and tell me if it does not put a chill down your spine

    http://freedomisforeverybody.blogspot.com/2009/04/alan-keyes-government-will-stage-terror.html

  15. Keyes is right. But Obama probably isn’t going to be able to pull that off until he manages to collapse the dollar, which always leads to violence.

    Also it may seem that Keyes is being unrealistic insofar as getting Americans to attack American civilians would likely be impossible. But this is what I’ve been warning about all along. Globalism means the bigshots can go through EACHOTHERS regime intelligence to get things done. So just as they can get a dictatorship to torture people at their behest, so to can Obama DIAL KENYA FOR MURDER and get Raila to get some hardcore Muslim bigshot to murder anyone Barry wants.

    Unless the FBI is spying on their boss and are having all his conversations in an obscure Kenyan dialect translated, Obama, who appears to be basically a brazen foreign plant, can get away with anything.

  16. “So here we are again, another experiment that can once more affect millions of lives and the future prosperity of our economies for years on end. We will soon know whether wasteful, useless deficit financed public spending on government chosen projects, where the returns will not repay their costs, can drive an economy into sustained rates of non-inflationary growth. And if it can’t, we will soon enough know that too.

    Nothing much more to do now but wait and see. The whole of the article can be read on Quadrant Online.”

    Check this out. Kates. The only fellow on Catallaxy, with Rafe gone, that understands economics. And yet check the doubt. Incredible. He’s batting for the right side of the deficit spending debate. But comprehend how unsure on his feet he is. We ought to already know that its a total failure and pure idiocy right from the start all this deficit spending. And yet Kates, who is the only one on the right side of the stimulus argument… is not sure. He reckons we have to wait and see.

    Why do we have to wait and see Kates? Each infrastructure project ought to be judged on its own merit. But there is never merit to deficit spending or most non-essential government spending, taken as a whole, and in the longer run. And there is no merit to fiscal stimulus in the short run either. Since there is no such THING as fiscal stimulus, its an idiotic notion for starters, disproved a million times by the real world evidence and incredibly stupid.

    Look Kates I’d get away from this esoteric Says law if I were you. You may be reading too much into it. Make sure that when you think about these things you concentrate on NOMINAL SPENDING and understand when you are not talking nominal spending. And make sure you focus on the total of business spending. And not just finished goods spending.

  17. Note the video above. Six weeks after 9/11 there is still clearly molten metal down there. If it was molten Aluminium, which it wasn’t thats a lie, but if it was (it wasn’t) how could it start off at only 700 degrees Celsius or so and still be powerfully hot six weeks later? This is just foolish. This is a planes-only-lie.

    Whereas with Thermate the heat is up to 4500 celesius. The metal will get as hot as 2000-3000 degrees presumably. The steal is heavy and can run like Lava, and its very easy to understand why you can still have this powerful heat six weeks later. Because it would be like a mega-Hangi. The metal would stay molten, run underneath all the other lighter material, and all the detritus above it would lock the heat in.

    Its just such a clear and easy to understand picture of what happened. The planes-alone conspiracy theory ignores the scientific evidence, the witness testimony, the history of terrorism as fundamentally regime action, and all other aspects of good methodology and reason.

  18. Next you’ll be telling us that TWA filght 800 was brought down by a missile.

  19. TWA flight 800 was one of a string of incidents in the 90’s that were almost definitely foreign regime terrorist attacks. Any one of them could have been an accident. But it became clear that the taxeaters were giving themselves a 100% record of thwarting terrorist attacks by only attributing those attacks in which they’d successfully blocked, where they could get away with this outrage.

    Were you under the misapprehension that you knew TWA 800 to be an accident? You knew no such thing blockhead.

  20. One wonders, then, why the same strategy wasn’t pursued with Lockerbie.

  21. That happened prior to the Clinton era. That happened in 1988 and the “no regimes to see here” mania got going in 1993.

    I remember seeing Never Say Never again, which was a 1983 film. I saw it again after many years. And there was this shock of recognising that it was simply taken for granted back then that regimes and terrorism were linked.


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