Posted by: graemebird | December 5, 2009

The New Taya-Humphreys Scheme For Stooging The Left Into Small Government.

Hey Taya while you are here. Why don’t you unveil your powerfully politically astute scam, to put over small government by stealth.
How does it go again? You will toady to Humphreys, and Humphreys from his position of economics-ignoramus will
1. broker this deal where the left will miraculously accept all these tax cuts in existing taxes in exchange for a carbon tax.
2. In this fantasy scenario these leftists will buy into it. But they have sealed their fate. You see the two of you knew, in this new story of yours, that the carbon tax would whittle away. And in this new idiots story of yours it would whittle away and snooker the left out of their big government.
My goodness you and Humphreys are so damn tricky hey?

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  1. Your comment is awaiting moderation.
    Getting rid of the reserve asset ratio has got to be a killer. It just hollows us out. A starting position of the New Zealanders being the biggest debtors per capita in the history of the world could not have been helpful. Their performance must also be checked against how their debt has improved or further degraded, when making the comparison with Australia.
    There is not enough emphasis on getting rid of company tax on retained earnings and there was too much emphasis on pulling the top rate of taxes down for the bigshots. Business development comes out of spending that is from an accounting point of view retained in the business. To me a 15% tax on retained earnings for some subcontractor trying to build up his capital base is far more offensive then a 30% tax on an executives second million on any given year. I think its only when you take money from your business into your personal accounts, only then you ought to be liable. Because we want to build up small businesses capital goods base, and to remove as many people from the proletariat as we can. It sounds like a pro-corporate measure on the surface of things, but delving a little deeper its the opposite.
    Consider the unsoundness of the bankers in the New Zealand situation. There we were the most indebted per capita country in the history of the world. And we have this income tax rate cut. Does it lead to an investment boom in capital goods in small business? No. Most of the small businesses in the small towns were squeezed to breaking point. But then you get house price inflation in Remuera road. There was no hope for free market reform if the bankers were fundamentally useless. And if they saw their role as merely investing in land asset inflation, consumer debt and so forth. And not creating wealth. They are the custodians of loanable funds. They blew it both here and in New Zealand. Its they that need reforming. When the alleged financial market deregulation came they got their way and we wound up with a reptilian bankers version of capitalism that could have been a great deal different.

    Graeme Bird
    December 5th, 2009 at 18:43 | #46 Reply | Quote
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    Everything in the financial system, nothing outside the financial system, nothing against the financial system. That was the slant of the free market reforms we got. Reforms with the bankers mentality all over them. Whereas we ought to have had reforms skewed towards the sole trader. And the bankers ought to have had their wings clipped. This is zombie-economics I think. Three years on neoclassical turf and I couldn’t get them to understand anything about monetary economics. They had bankers running interference the whole time. It was unbelievable. The early 80’s reforms were of a nature that lifted the bankers to almost senior partner in a two-way deal with the state. It was the small businessmen who ought to have been made King. Not the Wall Street wannabes.

  2. “…… go for your life on the supa nova stuff ………”

    This is the real threat that the fake threat is hiding. And here is the problem. The scientists of all kind defer to the Physics high masters. And their deference is buttressed by maths-obscurantism and by the cult of personality. But despite all that the fact is that no-one knows what gravity is. You read that right. No mainstreamer at least. There are two mainstream models of gravity. The Newton model and the model that Einstein put about. But Newton admitted he didn’t know what was causing gravity. He didn’t have a cause. He only had the maths for Stella bodies. His maths doesn’t work even out of the solar system, though they try to twist it so it does. Einsteins theory can be dealt with quickly. It is merely ridiculous and explains nothing. So we need a major rewrite as a matter of urgency. But that rewrite cannot come without privatising science. The non-commercial side of which is in a shocking state.

    Now whilst all of physics needs reworking from the bottom up one thing that Newton said seems to be entirely true. And that is that forces always come in pairs. Equal and opposite. And forces are never any other way then that. Which means that if you have the force of gravity working on 7000 kilometres of material down to the centre of the earth, then you have an equal and opposite force pointing straight up. This force must be the force of compression. A spring-loaded force as it were. So if gravity fails, even a little bit for just a nano-second, then there can be consequences and ramifications. Now it seems that large rotating bodies, when they line up, can in fact affect each-others magnetic fields and each-others gravity. Since the force of gravity is so finely balanced with the force of compression, this idea ought to be a fearful conclusion to come to. If gravity is real and not an occult occurrence then it can be affected. ‘If it bleeds we can kill it” as it were.

    Because of the above a shockwave coming from the centre of of the galaxy and leading to a star closer to us going supernova, ought to set off a chain reaction of nasty occurrences. Not just one thing, but a devastating series of disasters the likes of which the dinosaurs suffered. At the very least massive volcanic behaviour and gamma ray bursts. At the worst a planet blowing up in our solar system. Or a moon of Jupiter losing its orbit. Coronal mass ejections. All this sort of stuff. The sort of chain of bad breaks that would explain extinction events.

    Now we are overdue for a supernova. The last one was more than 400 years ago. We have to gear up to deal with nuclear intimidation anyhow. So we ought to be thinking about other things that will happen that we need to adapt to. We cannot do this while this science fraud of CO2-emissions is dogging our every step.

  3. yawn

    NO-ONE EVER HAS PULLED THIS YAWNING STUNT BUT THAT THEY ARE A MINDLESS IDIOT. HERE YOU CONFESS TO BEING A FAILED ANALYST. YOU NEED TO BE ON A MASS-SACKINGS HITLIST.

  4. “He only had the maths for Stella bodies.”

    Is this a new theory of a beer-centred universe?

    ITS NO NEW THEORY. ITS JUST A FACT. NEWTONS MATHS TENDS TO WORK FOR THE PLANETS. IT DOESN’T WORK IN ANY OTHER CONTEXT.

  5. “Now we are overdue for a supernova. The last one was more than 400 years ago.”

    Seems as though you’re wrong about the date of the most recent supernova. It was actually only 140 years ago. Nothing happened.

    http://www.nasa.gov/home/hqnews/2008/may/HQ_08126_Chandra_Supernova.html

    GOOD INFORMATION. BUT ITS DOUBTFUL WE NEED TO WORRY ABOUT THOSE SUPERNOVA SO FEEBLE AND DISTANT THAT WE DON’T SEE THEM WITH THE NAKED EYE.

    HOW DO YOU KNOW NOTHING HAPPENED 140 YEARS AGO? HAVE YOU CHECKED?

    “The recent supernova explosion was not seen with optical telescopes because it occurred close to the center of the galaxy and is embedded in a dense field of gas and dust. This made the object about a trillion times fainter, in optical light, than an unobscured supernova. However, the remnant it caused can be seen by X-ray and radio telescopes.”

    Hardly a refutation. Especially as we don’t have the year. Krakatoa was 1883. Thats not 140 years ago. But you would catch my drift. There is nothing for or against here. No exact date. The supernova totally obscured from the earths point of view.

  6. 140 years ago would make it 1869 you innumerate dope. God, no wonder you can’t stand modern physics, you’re incapable of doing the even the simplest of math at a third grade level.

    WHAT DID I SAY YOU FUCKING IDIOT? THEY DON’T HAVE AN EXACT DATE YOU MORON. IF IT WAS ONE-TRILLIONTH THE VISIBILITY OF A NORMAL SUPERNOVA ITS HARD TO KNOW IF IT WOULD HAVE ANY EFFECT ON EARTH. AND SINCE WE HAVE NO DATE TO GO ON WE CANNOT CHECK ANYHOW. YOU ARE AN IDIOT. WHAT WAS YOUR POINT?

  7. Are you going to come up with some sort of reasonable argument or are you just going to make an idiot of yourself.

    What sort of effect do you expect it would have if its too obscured from earths point of view to even detect? How would you test it without an exact date.

    You see you are an idiot. You don’t know when this thing happened. You cannot say that nothing happened on earth. You cannot suggest why anything WOULD happen on earth under my theory, the supernova being so far away and obscured.

    You see you are just an idiot mate. A moron.

  8. Take the boxing day tsunami. The biggest earthquake since the sixties. One hundred times the gamma ray blast ever recorded. How about your supernova? One trillionth the light from a normal supernova? How is that a refutation of anything. And you have no exact year to test. Clearly you are just an idiot pal.

  9. When I was a kid I never used to meet people as stupid as what you are.

  10. “Rudd is lasting more than one term. The Liberal Party will unlikely be able to redeem itself.”

    CO2-Bedwetter substituting soothsaying for analysis. We all ought to be behind Abbot except to the extent we are behind our own candidates. Turnbull would have made things utterly ambiguous. Since him winning would have made this globalism treason bipartisan. We really dodged a bullet. Well for the time being anyway.

    Keep the mea culpa’s coming. You too Cambria. You had something to say about your failure to take your fellow man into consideration when you decided to become a bank communist.

  11. “Graeme Bird,
    You are doing for skeptics what Luke did for true believers.
    Please, take a break.”

    Shows how much you know. Luke was powerfully effective for his side or he would not have did what he did. Leftists have it all over conservatives with tactics. Thats why conservatives almost always lose even though they usually have the balance of truth on their side in the core issue. You are too impressed with yourself to notice the effectiveness of Luke and his ilk.

    If I asked any of you to explain the situation with climate from the ground up, we would find that your explanation was full of holes. Luke and his type have successfully obstructed understanding on the highest levels. Since the fact is that even conservative climate scientists are not fully abreast of their subject. Being thrust into the limelight in a situation of utter fear, they are too scared to ask about the simple stuff.

    Its a multi-disciplinary field. It was no-ones specialty. What needed to happen is that people who were smart generally, and fine within their own specialty, needed to talk and ask questions, stupid and otherwise, without fear of being recorded, played back and discredited. The sort of environment that the Lukes created meant that governments could spend 100 billion dollars and few people really understand what was going on.

    Hunter you got to be a complete idiot to think Luke hasn’t been effective.

    No-one, even on this forum, probably the best climate science forum in 2008, has ever written a comprehensive explanation of how the climate works and why this CO2 business is so overpoweringly silly. No-one has gone through systematically to explain why “the greenhouse effect” is a total misnomer. And why the theory of backradiation isn’t why these greenhouse gases do part of what they are alleged to do.

    Worse then that, even on this forum where there was massed a lot of expertise, it remained the case that few would be able to write such a thread if they were put up to the task. Supposing you were asked to write an essay “So you think you believe in global warming” or “So you think you believe in the greenhouse effect?”could you do it? And explain exactly what is right and what is wrong about the theory of the greenhouse effect?

    If you are just too pig-ignorant to understand how effective Luke and the others have been you explain to me how the public servants of the world could have let us down this badly? A racket that never had anything going for it. Look how long its gone on already and how much momentum it still has? Look how it captured both sides of politics everywhere?

    If you other taxeaters, in all your politeness, who are so keen to extend collegial courtesy’s to your alarmist other selves …….. if you alleged skeptic taxeaters reckon being indulgent with these lunatics is so powerfully effective as a tactic, well why haven’t you won already?

    You haven’t won, because you don’t care, because you don’t pay the bills.

    Where did you get the idea that Luke wasn’t effective hunter? You know nothing about the subject of the effectiveness of leftist tactics. Don’t pretend you are some adept at this sort of thing. You won’t be effective until you are willing to start getting these people banned from blogs and fired from the public sector. Simple as that. And until you start doing this you will be selling out your taxpaying benefactors.

  12. Density of Gases in terms of grams per litre.

    O3 ……. 2.144

    O2 ……. 1.429

    Nitrogen .. 1.251

    CO2 ……… 1.977

    Argon ……. 1.784

    Methane 0.6557 g/L

  13. SPEAK ENGLISH YOU STUPID CUNT JOSEPH CAMBRIA. IF YOU TELL ME WHAT THE “NBN” IS YOU FUCKING CONFESSED BANK COMMUNIST, THEN I CAN TELL YOU WHETHER I SUPPORT IT OR NOT. AND YOU WON’T HAVE TO SPECULATE ON THE MATTER. ITS NOT LIKE YOU ARE ANY GOOD AT SPECULATION.


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