Posted by: graemebird | March 31, 2010

The Cause Of Atheism Is Doomed, Given The Stupidity Of PZ Myers And Other Adherents

PZ-Myers, the stupidest man on the internet, is now arguing that design flaws mean that Intelligent design cannot be a part of evolution. He’s got q link to some lady arguing to that effect.

There is so much wrong with this argument, but PZ Myers is never going to know, because he’s a moron. Consider how he is misrepresenting his opponents. He’s assuming them to be Christian fundamentalists, who think there isn’t such a thing as evolution, and that we are talking about a perfect God making perfect designs. What a fucking moron PZ MYers is. Not only intellectually incompetent but deaf and dumb also. No matter how many times people arguing against the PZ Myers play-school bio 101 version of evolution tell Myers what they think, he refuses to believe them. He simply, being a moron, recategorises them under some sort of creationist, and anti-evolutionary banner. He’s such a blockhead he accused me of being anti-evolution and an anti-vaxer. Its not clear to me that he was even lying when he made those claims. This could be him acting like a dope.

We can refute this latest nonsense from the stupidest man on the internet right away. The dog is clearly subject to intelligent design. That is to say BREEDING. Yet is the stupidest man on the internet, PZ Myers, claiming that the dog is perfectly designed? Well I don’t know. You will have to ask him. But it won’t matter what he says. He’s a dummy whose opinions are not the least bit relevant one way or another. He doesn’t even so much as listen to what his opponents are saying. He conjures up positions for them that they have never held.

PZ MYERS is an obstructionist to science. Science involves at least partly, the recognition of mysteries. The recognition of when something doesn’t seem right. Where a current theory doesn’t explain the reality of what we are observing. But if you are too dim to notice that something does not really fit, well that kills the scientific process right at the start.

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  1. UNLIKE THE PZ MYERS CHURCH FOR DUMMIES BLOG, WHAT MAKES IT THROUGH HERE IS VALID LOGICAL ARGUMENT.

    SWARMING IS NOT ALLOWED HERE. NEITHER WILL I DILUTE MY BLOG WITH NONSENSE WITHOUT INTELLECTUAL CONTENT.

    NOW DID YOU CATCH PZ’S MORONIC ARGUMENT IN FAVOUR OF HIS WHIG VIEW OF EVOLUTION? THE DUMB SHIT MAINTAINS THAT FOR THEIR TO BE ANY INTELLIGENT DESIGN, THAT DESIGN WOULD HAVE TO BE PERFECT.

    WE’VE HAD INTELLIGENT DESIGN IN CHICKENS, DOGS, PRETTY MUCH EVERY AGRICULTURAL GOOD. AND IN WHAT WAY ARE THESE AGRICULTURAL ANIMALS AND PLANTS PERFECT? NONE OF THEM ARE PERFECT I WOULD SUGGEST.

    EVEN IF I BOUGHT THIS DUMMIES CRUDE VIEW OF EVOLUTION I WOULD STILL PULL HIM ASIDE FOR THE LAMENESS OF HIS ARGUMENTS. BUT THIS FUCKWIT HAS A NAME FOR THAT. HE CALLS IT “CONCERN TROLLING”. HE DOESN’T DEMAND GOOD ARGUMENTS. HE DEMANDS BELIEF.

  2. Bird, you know I think you make a reasonable argument here – that intelligent design is no way disproved by flaws in the design. Its not clear to me while an all knowing omnipotent god would make a flawed design, but its certainly no disproof of ID.

    However it would be nice if you actually left the arguments of people like truism regardless how faulty on here so we could make some sense about what you are arguing against. This rabid deletion policy makes the place unreadable.

  3. “Its not clear to me while an all knowing omnipotent god would make a flawed design, but its certainly no disproof of ID.”

    This is a misrepresentation of the criticisms to do with crude whiggish Darwinism.

    For example, the stupidest man on the internet PZ Myers, claimed I was against evolution, on the grounds that I linked to Berlinski. Neither I nor Berlinski are Christians.

    I don’t believe in any sort of voodoo Edney. Not special relativity. Not ghosts. Not anything like that. If anything I’m more unreligious then Ayn Rand.

    I don’t have a religious bone in my body. I like Christians. Especially Christian women. I don’t characterise them as stupid because they don’t tend to be stupid. We are awash in stupid atheists right now and I don’t know why that is.

    Its important to realise when people who think differently to you have made a sound argument. This is something beyond PZ Myers ……. the stupidest man on the internet.

  4. Listen Edney you moron. You know full well from experience that I don’t wipe actual arguments free of lies.

    You just tried to mislead people then. You are such a liar Edney. If he had insulted me and had made an actual argument, you know full well I would have left the argument and wiped the rest.

    Thats the last bit of dishonesty I’m going to tolerate from you Edney you pig-fucker. You know the sort of bullshit I wipe. Because you’ve participated in it so many times yourself.

  5. “But its important to realise when people who think differently to you have made a sound argument.”

    Yes that is what I was doing. I agree you made a sound argument. and I agree you think differently.

  6. Very good. Thats why you didn’t get wiped. But you know full well that this jerk isn’t making any sort of argument at all. Else I’d let it through.

  7. Where did I say you wiped arguments that were free of lies. I’m suggesting you leave the arguments that have lies in them, so people can tell what the hell is going on.

    By the way thanks for all the abuse.

  8. You suggested I would have wiped an argument of his. You know thats not true.

    If he fucking puts his thinking cap on and makes an actual argument I’m going to fucking leave it in.

    You are so used to leftists trashing threads, you are desensitized to it.

    By the way check out this complete moron Myers. He reckons that the emails aren’t evidence for the global warming racket being fraudulent on the basis that some government enquiry white-washed it.

    The man will never be a scientist if he even if he gets to have nine lies.

    http://scienceblogs.com/pharyngula/2010/03/that_settles_that_then_i_hope.php

    These morons just have to release a report, he reads a summary, and the dumb fuck thinks that settles matters.

    Ask him for evidence for damaging warming resulting from industrial CO2 he won’t be coming out with any. But a government report settles matters in his view.

    What a fuckwit.

  9. Here is a typical moron at the PZ-Myers church for stupid:

    “Posted by: Kristjan Wager | March 31, 2010 4:25 PM
    I’ll say one good thing about the comment threads related to climate change – they always provide fodder for my kill-file.”

    Sticking ones fingers in ones ears as a way of life.

  10. Well what do you reckon Truism? You reckon PZ has a sound argument going for his whig version of evolution?

    Involving one planet and a ludicrously young universe?

    I cannot stand atheists who are stupid enough to criticise the creationists, when there own view of the universe is brazenly creationist.

    They hassle this tiny minority of Christians who think the Universe is only 6000 years old and then they turn around and start plying this baseless big bang fantasy.

  11. Alright. Looks like time for a major thinning out of posts here.

  12. Birdy, have you read about the notion of “deep order” developed by mathematicians and physicists which argues that in nature there are very powerful rules governing apparently chaotic and complex systems that have yet to be discovered?

  13. E.g. there is the work of Per Bak a Danish physicist who coined the term “self-organised criticality”.

    Take a pile of sand, he said. As grains of sand are added to it there comes a point, the critical state, where the addition of a single grain can cause an avalanche.

    Bak said there were similarities here with e.g. stock market crashes, the extinction of species, earthquakes. He said all these processes can be understood mathematically or at least described mathematically. And that one day we may be able to understand why these happen if not necessarily be able to control or prevent them.

  14. Yes I have heard of some of that stuff. I’d likely need to review it. Sometimes they have these great explanations with the help of pictorial demonstration. Like with the deep order of how sea shells and leaves and things are constructed. This sort of stuff is not fresh in my mind.

  15. Ian Stewart, a British maths professor (“Life’s Other Secret”) and Brian Goodwin (“How the Leopard Changed its Spots”) and other “deep order” thinkers argue that genetics is not and never can be a complete explanation for life and in that sense Pye’s hypotheses may suffer from one-dimensionality and uni-disciplinararity.

    What these other argue, and you should like this given you maths background, is that it is mathematics above all that governs all physical substances and processes out of which, in the end, all living things are made.

  16. Stewart’s book argues that mathematics informs our understanding of life at every level from DNA to rain forests to viruses, to flocks of birds, from the origins of the first replicating molecule to the evolutionary process. He talks about the mathematics of spiders’ webs and snowflakes, the population variation of ant colonies and the formation of swarms of particular species of birds. He also looks at the branching system and leaf formation of plants and the patterned skins of animals such as leopards and tigers and our dear household tigers, cats.

    He develops a theory from the 13th century of patterns in the plant kingdom whereby particular species have petals corresponding to a standardised sequence of numbers whereby each number is the sum of the two that preceded it.

  17. Anyway, for what it’s worth Stewart argues that genetics is not the deepest secret or the deepest order of life. And others have argued that the building blocks of life on Earth may have been chemical rather than biochemical and yes that those chemical compounds may have come from other planets. But then that is not such a spectacular leap of imaginative theorising is it.

    Stewart ended his book by predicting a new discipline for the 21st century – morphomatics – which will attempt to marry maths, physics and biology which will be needed he said to truly plumb the depths of the deep patterns we see in the world all around us and which can help us understand how life began.

  18. “He also looks at the branching system and leaf formation of plants and the patterned skins of animals……”

    Yeah thats what I remember getting a look at. I remember thinking that this way of looking at things is inherently plausible.


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