Posted by: graemebird | April 27, 2010

The Structure Of Large Murder-Conspiracies/Comparative Study/Kennedy Versus 9/11

Now that we know that the Kennedy hit is a large conspiracy and no lone gunman affair …. And now that we know almost all the details of this hit, its time to compare the structure of this hit with what happened on the 11th Of September 2001 American time …. Which was of course the 12th of September 2001 in those two countries, that we must now see as the flag-bearers, of Western Civilisation, if not civilisation good and proper.

It is not to be thought that the Kennedy hit involved murdering but one person. The body count for the Kennedy hit starts at around 40 and may well be much higher than that.

This has to be of necessity a rambling post, with a few odds and ends, to get people who have not studied the BIG CONSPIRACY paradigm sufficiently ………. there has to be a few random ideas of interest to keep such people in a state of suspense and willing to at least work with this paradigm and not run from it.

So lets get to rambling (R. Dogs)- Did you know that there is evidence that George Bush senior was not only CIA merely as director? Did you know that there is evidence that places him in Dallas the day of the Kennedy hit? Interesting huh? Thats interesting in light of the fact that Texas “small oil” seemed to be calling the shots in Texas at the time of the hit. Interesting in light of a meeting in Texas with Hoover, Johnson and Texas oil bigshots in the same place, at an oilmans house?

I make it that there were 5-6 bullets, meant to be disguised as three bullets. That is to say there was a fake shot to get everyone looking at the wrong place. Then perhaps two groups of shots after that. Perhaps the second group could have had two shooters. Perhaps the last shot as many as three.

Its interesting what Governor John Connally said when he got shot isn’t it?

THE JUDAS GOAT JOHN CONNALLY.

When the Judas Goat got shot he said “My God, they will kill us all.” This translates rather nicely to, “These lunatics were only supposed to shoot Kennedy!” The Governor almost confessed and gave the game away right there.

MORE LATER

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Responses

  1. “Connally – an experienced hunter – willingly sat immediately in front of Kennedy despite knowing a nervous assassin with a $12 rifle was in the School Book Depository firing at a moving target?”

    No of course not you idiot Currency Lad. As if you are going to assassinate the President with a twelve buck rifle, and someone who isn’t anything less then a crack shot.

    There were probably four teams of shooters. No 12 buck bolt action rifles involved except as decoy.

    Get your shit together Currency Lad and stop being a moron.
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

    No lets get this straight. The movement of Jack Kennedy’ s head backwards and to the left mean a second shooter mean a conspiracy.

    This is total proof. So lets all stop being idiotic about this matter. Your head moves back and to the left, Thats a bullet coming from your right front.

    There is no other explanation. There is no medical or physical explanation other than a second shooter. Anyone saying otherwise is lying.

  2. Ok now the logic rolls on. We know it was a conspiracy and no lone shooter just from the head movement associated with the kill shot. There doesn’t need to be a great deal of hand-waving about this point. This is just a fact.

    Now from there is it the communists sending an arms-length shooter (someone who doesn’t know he’s hired by the communists) to see if Oswald goes through with it, and to underwrite the job as it were?

    Or is it an American conspiracy?

    The coverup shows it to be an American conspiracy. This appears impossible on the grounds that its hard for 3 or more people to keep anything a secret. However the whole point of covert operations is to do it, get away with it, and try and maintain plausible deniability.

    It was a huge operation. With anyone who became important to the plot being uncovered getting harassed, scared, discredited or murdered. So yes we are looking at an absolutely huge affair.

    We are very fortunate these guys had at least some minor scruples when it came to murdering women. Or else we would not now have the information that we have.

    What we discover is that once its a black ops deal, then there is no in-between sized conspiracies. They have to be really huge or not at all.

  3. Mr Bird,

    It seems the Currency Lad, once a sound fellow, is being dragged down by the herd Stupidity that is Cattle-axy.

    It seems that you should have warned him to depart sooner. Fisk still seems to have his head screwed on though, must be made of sterner stuff.

  4. Just to look at how monstrously big and how many people were involved in the hit, lets look at the FBI involvement BEFORE the shooting. And this to do with just one aspect of the plot:

  5. THERE WAS A POLIO VACCINE WITH 200 MILLION SHOTS INFECTED WITH A MONKEY VIRUS. THIS VIRUS GIVES CANCER TO A SMALL PERCENTAGE OF THE PEOPLE WHO CARRY IT. ITS A VIRUS THAT ALSO CAN BE SEXUALLY TRANSMITTED. ITS ASSOCIATED WITH THE UPTICK OF CANCER FROM BACK IN THE LATE 50’S EARLY SIXTIES.

    THE STORY OF THE CANCER DOVETAILS INTO THE KENNEDY HIT. OPERATION MONGOOSE WAS A PLOT TO KILL CASTRO AND GET AWAY WITH IT. THEY WERE DEVELOPING MORE AND MORE VIRULENT STRAINS OF CANCER CAUSING AGENTS, BASED ON A MUTATED FORM OF WHAT THEY KNEW WAS IN THESE POLIO SHOTS. OSWALDS YOUNG MISTRESS WAS A MAIN EXPERIMENTER IN THIS STORY. OSWALD WAS NO COMMUNIST. RATHER HE WAS AN ANTI-COMMUNIST UNDER DEEP COVER.

    • The last 3 episodes (7-9) of “The Men Who Killed Kennedy” has been discredited.

      The ninth documentary in the series, titled “The Guilty Men”, directly implicating former U. S. President Lyndon B. Johnson, created an outcry among Johnson’s surviving associates, Johnson’s widow, Lady Bird Johnson, journalist Bill Moyers, ex-President Jimmy Carter, Jack Valenti (longtime president of the Motion Picture Association of America), and the last-living (at the time of the outcry) Warren Commission commissioner and ex-President Gerald R. Ford, who lodged complaints of libel with the History Channel. They subsequently threatened legal action against Arts & Entertainment Company, owner of the History Channel.

      The History Channel responded by assembling a panel of three historians (Robert Dallek, Stanley Kutler, and Thomas Sugrue, considered as advocates of the Warren Commission’s decision that Oswald acted alone). On a program aired April 7, 2004, the panel agreed, based on their assessment of the character of President Johnson, that the documentary could not be credible.

      http://religionandmorality.net/multimedia/UNDchapter/VideosJFK2.html

      YOU DON’T APPEAR TO KNOW WHAT “DISCREDITING” MEANS. IT ISN’T JUST SOME IDIOT MAKING THE CLAIM THAT ITS BEEN DISCREDITED AND A FEW PEOPLE GETTING UPSET.

    • THERE WAS A POLIO VACCINE WITH 200 MILLION SHOTS INFECTED WITH A MONKEY VIRUS. THIS VIRUS GIVES CANCER TO A SMALL PERCENTAGE OF THE PEOPLE WHO CARRY IT. ITS A VIRUS THAT ALSO CAN BE SEXUALLY TRANSMITTED. ITS ASSOCIATED WITH THE UPTICK OF CANCER FROM BACK IN THE LATE 50′S EARLY SIXTIES.

      In 1960, it was determined that the rhesus monkey kidney cells used to prepare the poliovirus vaccines were infected with the SV40 virus (Simian Virus-40).

      In 1998, the National Cancer Institute undertook a large study, using cancer case information from the Institutes SEER database. The published findings from the study revealed that there was no increased incidence of cancer in persons who may have received vaccine containing SV40.

      Evidence:

      International peer-reviewed Journal of the American Medical Association

      http://jama.ama-assn.org/cgi/content/full/279/4/292

      SO WHAT? WHAT DO YOU THINK THEY WERE GOING TO SAY? THEY HAD RELEASED 100 MILLION OF THESE VACCINES PRIOR TO EVEN FINDING THERE WAS A PROBLEM. THEY DIDN’T SCRUPLE TO RELEASE 100 MILLION MORE. WHAT DO YOU THINK THE PUBLIC SERVANTS ARE GOING TO SAY?

      • The journal was reporting on the outcome of the study, it’s a medical journal, not a political journal.

        The point is that the study found no increase in cancer rates due to the presence of a monkey virus in polio vaccine, whereas you said that the virus was “ASSOCIATED WITH THE UPTICK OF CANCER FROM BACK IN THE LATE 50′S EARLY SIXTIES.”

        This is clearly not the case, where did you get your erroneous data from?

        NOW YOU ARE JUST BEING AN IDIOT MATE. I SUPPOSE YOU ARE A CO2 BEDWETTER AS WELL. I SHOULD POINT OUT THAT WHEN IT WAS FOUND THIS STUFF CAUSED CANCER THEY STARTED EXPERIMENTING IN MAKING MORE VIRULENT STRAINS. THEY WERE ABLE TO KILL MICE, THEN PEOPLE, IN JUST A FEW DAYS.

  6. Mr Bird,

    I have been reading that the assassins of Arch Duke Franz Ferdinand of Austria-Hungary were actually freemasons, that Princip admitted to being a freemason and that they were following orders of a freemasons lodge.

    Do you have any ideas whether the freemasons were involved in the Kennedy hit?

    http://www.biblebelievers.org.au/masonry5.htm

  7. There’s apparently a Freemason cell at Barwon prison.

  8. Mr Bird, logistics and forensic facts aside, what was the assassination for? How did Johnson’s presidency differ fundamentally from JFK’s in domestic or foreign policy?

  9. We must not think this was functional behaviour? This is the public service we are talking about. The situation came out of the group dynamics of a bunch of people who were working out of Miami, with the goal of killing Castro.

    Little irritations were the Bay of Pigs massacre, which may have not of been as much of Jacks fault as was thought of at the time (and now.) Kruschev took a big risk in Cuba and then was publicly humiliated by Jack. There were many attempts on Castro’s life after the promise was made not to do that sort of thing. So there is some things for the commies that were infiltrated in to get pissed about.

    There was the attack on the Federal Reserve, where Jack thought the treasury ought to create new money. The closing of some bases that the Cubans in Mongoose were working out of. There was the moves to get rid of the oil tax credit. The promise to be out of Vietnam soon after the following election. There was the secret pulling of nukes out of Turkey as a result of the nuclear showdown. On the mob side Bobby was fearless and perhaps hubristic when going after the mob. He went so far as to grab a top mobster and drop him in some isolated place in a South American country. He was causing the mobsters headaches bigtime. From many in the FBI’s point of view the turning of the White House into a knocking shop would have been an irritation. And Jack started fucking Cord Meyers wife.

    So the two of them were pissing people off left right and centre. Awesome huh? But as to the plot getting going it came out of the anti-Castro team of the CIA and was “workshopped backwards up the chain of command.”

  10. “There’s no duality, Bird. Have you done much shooting? Kennedy was shot from behind; the filmic record shows brain matter and blood flying forwards. Seemingly paradoxically, the head goes back. Only it isn’t a paradox. It’s a well-known phenomenon.”

    No its not. Its a well-known party trick with a melon. Try it with a skull and a body attached to it. The melon didn’t even get thrust backward. It rolled off gently backwards off a situation of precarious placement. This is a failed experiment. Try again since the shot was from the right front, meaning more than one shooter, meaning a conspiracy.

    This is just a fact and something we need to get used to. Melon party tricks aside.

  11. Mr B

    I am so disgusted.

    Those commie bastards murder JFK and Lee, and then they reenact it on tv using an exploding melon just to poke fun at poor Jackie O and JFK Jr.

    I expect they will do the same with Carl, show some mug in prison blues splatting a melon with a bike seat while that fat fuck from Sunrise comments and makes jokes. Then they’ll show it again in slo-mo. THen they’ll say the science proves the Pigs didn’t kill Carl.

    And with no concern for poor Roberta and Dhakota. Or poor old Carl’s dad, who’s still upset after his run in with the Moran brothers.

  12. I share your concerns Ron. But Penn Jiilette is a good man. No commie. And whats more he is one of the few truly smart young blokes today calling himself a “skeptic.” Back in the 70’s was the heyday of the skeptic movement. This was when all the prominent skeptics were true genius level. Today people calling themselves skeptics, particularly the young folk, tend to be the biggest dropkicks in the world. Penn Jiillette is an incredibly smart fellow. This is the first time I’ve seen him stooge himself.

    Jiilette and his partner are one of the few people on the planet to get a rave review from our greatest living economist. George Reisman did a write-up on an excellent episode of their show to do with the bullshitartistry of recycling.

    So its terrible this one time to see young Penn stooging himself with the old melon balancing trick. Since the order of magnitude of difference of force needed to lift Jack Kennedy’s entire body (minus perhaps the weight of his legs below the knee) up and back …….. and to tip a melon balanced precariously, wherein the melon is stood up vertically …….

    We are talking an order of magnitude of force and energy difference in the two examples of at least two orders of magnitude ……. more likely three, and potentially as much as four.

    This business, ludicrously tagged “the jet effect” is no jet effect but rather a melon balancing trick. It wouldn’t even work if the melon was placed on the horizontal. Its a shame when someone of that level of prestige and credibility screws things up so badly.

    To understand how most viewers would be taken in by this we have to factor in Penn’s prestige, and his awesome ability to perform in front of the camera.

    But how did he stooge himself? He stooged himself the same way I stooged myself, the same way Fisk stooged myself, the same way the brilliant currency lad stooged himself.

    The way we all four stooged ourselves is we could not bring ourselves to believe that a conspiracy involving that many people was even possible, given that its hard for even three people to keep a secret.

    So here you see Penn acting unscientifically with immense panache. But unscientifically just the same. He doesn’t verbalize his reasoning. But a scientist must always verbalize his reasoning lest he stooge himself.

    In this case his reasoning has got nothing to do with what he demonstrates. Rather his reasoning is off-camera. And merely to do with him not being able to cope with a vast conspiracy that can keep itself afloat. I’m not hassling him to much. I made the same mistake myself. I’m actually pretty old you know. No I’m not telling you. But without applying rigorous method to the problem I’ve gone all this time getting it wrong. But we must be able to pivot on silver dollar, apply good methodology, and change the habit of a lifetime. Because in a better world we must understand Bobby Kennedy’s tragic yet understandable mistake, and the wider hazard of PLAUSIBLE DENIABILITY since this concept of plausible deniability is fraught with the potential of civilisation-destroying bad karma.

    Let us repeat the take-home story. The melon-balancing trick would not even work with a horizontal melon. So pitiful is the force difference involved. Ergo we have a second shooter. Ergo we have a conspiracy. And a bullet coming from the front right. The bullet was therefore an exploding bullet. Since witness evidence (as opposed to government lies) tells us there was a clean small whole in Jacks right temple and the left backside of his head was blown clean off with most of his brain gone. Jackie retrieved a solid chunk of Jacks brain. Some of the rest was left there. A lot of the rest immediately spurted out the small clean hole in Jacks temple …. specifically because it was an exploding bullet.

    Had it been a normal rifle shot, from a building to Jacks back right, then if there was this brain spurt, it would have been down and to the left that the splattered brains travelled. Jackie would not then have retrieved a solid chunk of brain from the back of the car. And (supposing that there was this splattered brain) then there also would have been Jacks LEFT I SAID LEFT TEMPLE BLOWN CLEAN OFF with the neat little bullet hole to the top right of the back of Jacks head. This is not what the witnesses tell us. So everything is consistent only with an exploding level from down low. From lower than Jack. That is to say from the storm drain.

    I am right. Prove me wrong. Government reports without backing video witness testimony does not count. Prove me wrong.


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