Posted by: graemebird | September 1, 2010

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  1. Jason Soon confesses to being a closet Keynesian know-nothing extremist:

    “Now that is a scary thought. if that happens we might as well make Homer Finance Minister and Bird the Secretary of Treasury”

    So you are FOR stimulus packages you dumb Gook?

    Learn economics and you won’t make such a cunt of yourself. I’d be the best treasurer of anyone they could possibly hire in this country. No question about that at all.

    All of my thinking has trained me for that job. And the chief of the Reserve Bank as well. No-one else would have the understanding and policy flexibility to adapt to to the nuttiness of the Prime Minister of the day, and to present him with the alternatives that would make his initiatives less harmful.


    I don’t even know why anyone would QUESTION what I say here.

    Any request that the independents may throw at Tony, I could come back with 5 potential undertakings that would go someways towards the goals without as much overhead.

  2. Stupid Gook Cunt.

  3. China Fortifies State Businesses to Fuel Growth
    New York Times
    August 29, 2010

    BEIJING — During its decades of rapid growth, China thrived by allowing once-suppressed private entrepreneurs to prosper, often at the expense of the old, inefficient state sector of the economy.

    Now, whether in the coal-rich regions of Shanxi Province, the steel mills of the northern industrial heartland, or the airlines flying overhead, it is often China’s state-run companies that are on the march.

    As the Chinese government has grown richer — and more worried about sustaining its high-octane growth — it has pumped public money into companies that it expects to upgrade the industrial base and employ more people. The beneficiaries are state-owned interests that many analysts had assumed would gradually wither away in the face of private-sector competition.

    New data from the World Bank show that the proportion of industrial production by companies controlled by the Chinese state edged up last year, checking a slow but seemingly inevitable eclipse. Moreover, investment by state-controlled companies skyrocketed, driven by hundreds of billions of dollars of government spending and state bank lending to combat the global financial crisis.

    They join a string of other signals that are fueling discussion among analysts about whether China, which calls itself socialist but is often thought of in the West as brutally capitalist, is in fact seeking to enhance government control over some parts of the economy.

    The distinction may matter more today than it once did. China surpassed Japan to become the world’s second-largest economy this year, and its state-directed development model is enormously appealing to poor countries. Even in the West, many admire China’s ability to build a first-world infrastructure and transform its cities into showpieces.

    Once eager to learn from the United States, China’s leaders during the financial crisis have reaffirmed their faith in their own more statist approach to economic management, in which private capitalism plays only a supporting role.

    “The socialist system’s advantages,” Prime Minister Wen Jiabao said in a March address, “enable us to make decisions efficiently, organize effectively and concentrate resources to accomplish large undertakings.”

    State vs. Private

    The issue of state versus private control is a slippery one in China. After decades of economic reform, many big state-owned companies face real competition and are expected to operate profitably. The biggest private companies often get their financing from state banks, coordinate their investments with the government and seat their chief executives on government advisory panels.

    Chinese leaders also no longer publicly emphasize sharp ideological distinctions about ownership. But they never relaxed state control over some sectors considered strategically vital, including finance, defense, energy, telecommunications, railways and ports.

    Mr. Wen and President Hu Jintao are also seen as less attuned to the interests of foreign investors and China’s own private sector than the earlier generation of leaders who pioneered economic reforms. They prefer to enhance the clout and economic reach of state-backed companies at the top of the pecking order.

    “China’s always had a major industrial policy. But for a space of a few years, it looked like China was turning away from an active and interventionist industrial policy in favor of a more hands-off approach,” Victor Shih, a Northwestern University political scientist, said in a recent telephone interview.

    Mr. Shih, among others, now believes that the 1980s reforms that unleashed China’s private sector and the 1990s reforms that dismantled great sections of the state-run sector are being partly undone.

    “The problem is that the reforms of the first 20 years, from 1978 to the end of the ’90s, actually did not touch on the power of the government,” said Yao Yang, a Peking University professor who heads the China Center for Economic Research. “So after the other reforms were finished, you actually find the government is expanding, because there is no check and balance on its power.”

    Divining Government’s Role

    There are no comprehensive statistics to catalog the government’s influence over the economy. So the shift is partly inferred from coarse measures like the share of financing in the economy provided by state banks, which rose sharply during the financial crisis, or the list of the 100 largest publicly listed Chinese companies, all but one of which are majority state owned.

    The statistic showing an uptick in the share of industrial production attributable to the state sector is regarded by some analysts as a blip rather than the start of a trend. The World Bank’s senior economist in Beijing, Louis Kuijs, said the state sector’s unusually rapid growth will most likely moderate with the ending of the government’s stimulus spending.

    “As the growth process normalizes again, the traditional trend toward a declining SOE share will take over again,” he wrote in an e-mail message, using the shorthand for state-owned enterprise. “I don’t think that the senior leaders had a strategy of reversing this trend.”

    But others argue that officials had always intended to create a vibrant state sector that would tower above the private sector in important industries, even as they sold off or shut down money-losing state enterprises that drained capital from the government budget and banking system.

    Recent alarm over the expanding role of the state, said Arthur Kroeber of Dragonomics, an economic forecasting firm based in Beijing, is mostly “perception catching up with reality.”

    In some ways, the differences in this debate are small. Everyone agrees that China runs a bifurcated economy: at one level, a robust and competitive private sector dominates industries like factory-assembled exports, clothing and food. And at higher levels like finance, communications, transportation, mining and metals — the so-called commanding heights — the central government claims majority ownership and a measure of management control.

    Yet the two camps’ view of China’s future are markedly different. Those who see little evidence of an expanding state sector generally believe that China has a decade or more of robust growth awaiting it before its economy matures. Theirs is a Goldilocks view of state intervention — not too much or too little, but just enough to push a developing economy toward prosperity.

    The skeptics have a darker view: they believe distortions and waste, in no small part due to government meddling, have resulted in gross misallocation of capital and will end up pushing growth rates down well before 2020. What drives their pessimism, the skeptics say, is that China, like Japan a generation ago, has too much confidence in a top-down economic strategy that defies conventional Western theory.

    The skeptics also point to what they say is the growing political and financial influence of China’s state-owned giants — 129 huge conglomerates that answer directly to the central government, and thousands of smaller ones run by the provinces and cities.

    While no public breakdown exists, most experts say the vast bulk of the 4 trillion renminbi ($588 billion) stimulus package that China pumped out for new highways, railroads and other big projects went to state-owned companies. Some of the largest companies used the flood of money to strengthen their dominance in their current markets or to enter new ones.

    In the last year or so, many of the 129 central government companies have moved forcefully into China’s real-estate industry, with hundreds of billions of dollars in construction projects and land deals. State-owned steel giants have cut deals to buy out more profitable and often more efficient private competitors. A host of government conglomerates have snapped up coal mining companies in Shanxi Province.

    “In 2009, there was a huge expansion of the government role in the corporate sector,” Huang Yasheng, a leading analyst of China-style capitalism at the Massachusetts Institute of Technology, said in a telephone interview. “They’re producing yogurt. They’re into real estate. Some of the upstream state-owned enterprises are now expanding downstream, organizing themselves as vertical units. They’re just operating on a much larger scale.”

    Local Interests

    At the local level, governments set up 8,000 state-owned investment companies in 2009 alone to channel government dollars into business and industrial ventures, Mr. Huang said. One example suffices: a private Chinese automaker, Zhejiang Geely Holding Group, made worldwide headlines in March when it agreed to buy Sweden’s Volvo marque from Ford. Much of the $1.5 billion purchase price came not from Geely’s relatively modest profits, but from local governments in northeast China and the Shanghai area.

    Geely reciprocated this month, announcing that it will build its Volvo headquarters and an assembly plant in a Shanghai industrial district.

    The reasons for the state’s push for greater involvement in business vary. State control of energy supplies is crucial to China’s growth, and the Shanxi coal takeovers will increase production, guarantee fuel to some state-owned utilities and give Beijing new power to control coal prices. State mining companies also argue that they have a superior safety record to their accident-prone private competitors.

    But in other areas the state looks more mercenary.

    Take telecommunications. Upon joining the World Trade Organization, China committed itself to opening its communications market to foreign joint ventures for local and international phone service, e-mail, paging and other businesses. But after eight years, no licenses have been granted — largely, the United States says, because capital requirements, regulatory hurdles and other barriers have made such ventures impractical. Today, basic telecommunications in China are booming, and are virtually 100 percent state-controlled.

    Take the passenger airline industry. Six years ago, the central government invited private investors to enter the business. By 2006, eight private carriers had sprung up to challenge the three state-controlled majors, Air China, China Southern and China Eastern.

    The state airlines immediately began a price war. The state-owned monopoly that provided jet fuel refused to service private carriers on the same generous terms given the big three. China’s only computerized reservation system — currently one-third owned by the three state airlines — refused to book flights for private competitors. And when mismanagement and the 2008 economic crisis drove the three majors into financial straits, the central government bought stock to bail them out: about $1 billion for China Eastern; $430 million for China Southern; $220 million for Air China.

    One private passenger carrier that remains is Spring Airlines, a tenacious startup run by a founder so frugal that he shares a 100-square-foot office with his chief executive and takes the subway to business meetings.

    That founder, Wang Zhenghua, survived in part by building his own computer reservation system. He canceled a planned interview. But in Chinese news reports, he was caustic about the state subsidies given his competitors. “Now with the injection of 10 billion yuan” for China Eastern and China Southern, “everything is in chaos,” he told Biz Review, a Chinese magazine.

    China’s private entrepreneurs have a catchphrase for such maneuvers: “guo jin, min tui,” or “the state advances, the private sector retreats.”

    State-owned enterprises in China have taken the best of the economy for themselves, “leaving the private sector drinking the soup while the state enterprises are eating the meat,” Cai Hua, the vice director of a chamber-of-commerce-style organization in Zhejiang Province, said in an interview.

    First in Line

    Mr. Cai says he believes that China needs government-run industries to compete globally and manage the country’s domestic development. But locally, he said, their advantages — being first in line for financing by state banks, first in line for state bailouts when they get in trouble, first in line for the stimulus gusher — have created a “profound inequality” with private competitors.

    Some analysts argue that the state-owned conglomerates, built with state money and favors into global competitors, have now become political power centers in their own right, able to fend off even Beijing’s efforts to rein them in.

    Of the 129 major state enterprises, more than half the chairmen and chairwomen and more than one-third of the chief executive officers were appointed by the central organization department of the Communist Party. A score or more serve on the party’s Central Committee, which elects the ruling Politburo. They control not just the lifeblood of China’s economy, but a corporate patronage system that dispenses top-paying executive jobs to relatives of the party’s leading lights.

    China’s leaders have sought occasionally in the past year to curb speculative excesses by state-controlled businesses in real estate, lending and other areas. In May the State Council, a top-level policy body sometimes likened to the cabinet in the United States, issued orders to give private companies a better shot at government contracts — for roads and bridges, finance and even military work — that now go almost exclusively to state-owned companies. Virtually the same rules were issued five years ago, to little effect.

    Yet it is hard to argue with success, other economists say, and China’s success speaks well of its top-down strategy. Asian powerhouses like South Korea and Japan built their modern economies with strong state help. Many economists agree that shrewd state management can be better than market forces in getting a developing nation on its feet.

    Experts on both sides of the debate have but two questions. One is how much longer state control of vast areas of the economy will generate that growth.

    The other is whether, should that strategy stop working, China will be able to change it.

  4. Yeah I think its an ugly future on both sides of the Chinese border. Horrid huge state-owned outfits. And where we are horrid huge cronyist outfits being pampered by a rang of subtle advantages now locked in.

    I guess the only difference will be our top executives will be able to pay themselves a lot more than the Chinese top guys. None of this is capitalism. Its fascist-economics both sides of the Chinese border.

  5. Cambria:

    “Interesting Forbes article on why the 21 century belongs to the US despite some hiccups.

    I agree (of course)”

    So are you predicting then that the US will

    1. Go into surplus budgets?
    2. Default on its debts?

    Since if it doesn’t do both of these there is no way it can even hang together as one nation, let alone maintain its superpower status.

  6. Without reading the article, we can assume its talking about the naval location of the US armed forces. Having ready access to both the Atlantic and the Pacific. They may also be talking about the length of time it takes to build up ones armed forces.

    I’ll read the article later. But if thats what the article is talking about, that access to both oceans depends on the US not falling apart. Energy production, like military prowess ALSO takes a long time to build up. China is actively doing this. The US is actively thwarting this production.

    So these soothsayers are a little smug. Since things hang in the balance. Keynesianism is destroying the economy of the US on a daily basis. The economy is contracting all the time. Or at least thats what we would have to assume. Unless Keynesianism is well and truly destroyed, then its hard to see the US even maintaining first world status.

  7. Ah, hard work, imagination, creativity, majority electoral appeal certainly are all paying off for Australian Left today Mr Bird as the nation swings sharply to the Left.

    Oh happy days.

  8. Well you ought not gloat. Because if Labour gets in, them and their Green buds are going to do immense damage to all of us. But particularly the sort of the electorates that the independents are members for.

    One ought not gloat at this level of future desperation and human misery.

  9. Gloat is a great word ain’t it.

    Sure I’m gloating. But with the best of national intentions.

    No, this is a much better starting point for “moving forward” than the now receding likelihood of a Coalition government.

    One does not have parliamentary illusions, but what Abbott and his paltry band of flakes and mediocrities offer the body politic is the sort of medicine, like chemotherapy, that makes you feel a lot worse before you finally cark it.

    No thanks.

    We’ all much prefer and be better off with the homeopathic doses of an ALP+Greens and other mixed bag independents government than the forced carbolic acid dosage of a wren-smuggling Abbott-led circus.

  10. I cannot vouch for Tony. But the combination of mining tax and carbon tax would simply be a death blow to the economic viability of so many communities in this nation.

    If Julia gets in it will be an anti-democratic move. In fact it will be evidence that dark covert forces are pulling the strings. So against democratic norms would this be.

    Its the bankers who are for these carbon taxes. They are the ones teaching the left their pseudo-science, as they get set for endless commissions. I don’t think I’ve even so much as heard of a banker who isn’t going along with these lies.

    • If you think taxes are the be all and end all then you’re looking in the wrong place. Tax is pretty central and we do need to start properly taxing the rich who are reaping super profits while raping the environment, ripping out of the ground finite resources, paying a pittance back to the nation and screwing the workers they exploit.

      But beyond the issie of tax, which I agree is important, there is a whole world of politics and economics that you are ignoring fixated as you are on one small dimension. Taxation fixation, or the yen for small government, sorry will never happen, never more so than today, this does not a holistic policy make which can protect the land and environment which is the precondition for our very existence, can stop the biodiversity destruction, grow the economy, institute full employment, protect the vulnerable, the young, aged and sick, and raise the cultural level of society as a whole.

      Only the left has a vision of how to do this. The Right doesn’t even care about these things. Which is why the Right has lost this election. Sorry.

  11. Graeme Bird :
    02 Sep 2010 6:10:42pm
    We cannot at this time tell who is and isn’t in an unsustainable position. Since our currency and banking system is unsustainable. And one of its consequences is that, in effect, our dollar has been over-valued these last 30 years.

    So under those circumstances, its not possible to say whether the market has spoken against these struggling farmers. In a functioning setup it may well be that they would by now be thriving.

    There is no end to the RELATIVE loss of our food production and manufacturing if we don’t get ourselves a properly functioning currency/banking setup. The proper adjustments will only come when its too late and we are too poor, and there is little more government and banking parasitism to be had.

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  12. Graeme Bird :
    02 Sep 2010 6:13:51pm
    The argument would be that we can get food just as easily from foreign producers as from the locals. Though such an assumption would come back to bite us in an emergency.

    The problem is with our banking and currency system. Its not okay to plead free enterprise and then sit still for a cartelised, socialised and dysfunctional parasitical currency and banking system.

    If that is reformed then some of the farmers struggling today may wind up getting about in Mazzarati’s tommorrow. We won’t know until we actually reform the system.

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  13. Graeme Bird :
    02 Sep 2010 7:01:43pm
    How irresponsible and moronic is this:

    “My advice to the Governor General is much simpler: do whatever you like. It may come as some surprise to those who have not read our Constitution, but Quentin Bryce has a prerogative power which can be exercised at her whim.”

    Just unbelievable. The inability to differentiate between who gets to make the call LEGALLY and what the call ought to be MORALLY.

    If all of us set out to act in a wicked and immoral way, where we were legally entitled to do so, this would be the end of humane civilisation.

    Just incredible. Lets all do what we can get away with. Thats what you are saying. Its not up to the Governor General to determine the outcome of elections. You imply so in error. She has the legal fallback-ability to do so. But its not up to her to do it. Its actually none of her business.

    This is a matter for the independents.

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  14. Graeme Bird :
    02 Sep 2010 4:33:04pm

    She looks phoney. She is phoney. She’s a proven failure. And there is a good reason for this:

    The hard left around the country, work hard, year in year out, to promote crypto-hard-leftists. I prefer to say crypto-communists, but people tend to get very upset and blow a gasket when you use your own terminology. So I guess I’ll continue to use my own terminology.

    So you see you will have hard-leftist blogs backing Julia, and prominent broadcasters backing Kevin, and they never let on when they are giving all this career assistance to these people. that they happen to know what extreme leftists these people are, but they are just promoting them for their non-ideological qualities.

    Kevin becomes a diplomatic genius and sociologists wax lyrical about Julia years before she gets the number two spot.

    As a consequence of this hard-leftist diligence the best people get trumped career-wise by crypto-communist blockhead like Julia. What has Julia been a success in? What we are seeing is wall-to-wall incompetence.

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  15. Rather what has proved its incompetence is soft-cock institutional failures, such as News Ltd, conservatism, neo-liberalism, the Liberal Party and Nationals.

    Beaten by women and leftists. Suck it up.

  16. Right. Thats an interesting interpretation sure. But the “women and leftists” haven’t won yet. Excellent showing that they may have put on.

    My point rather is that a Labour/Green victory, which hasn’t yet happened,( and which, since they didn’t win, would probably only happen as an usurpation) would do immense damage.

    Its the damage that this would do if the election result is reversed somehow. Thats why I’m saying its poor form to gloat. They will quickly make any number of communities unviable.

  17. Fractional Reservist Bastards

  18. Mr Bird, I know you understand my husband Joe better than anyone. Perhaps you can shed some light on recent developments in his psychosis, err behaviour and advise me on what action I could take.

    Since the election he has really lost the plot, ranting and raving all day long, refusing to shower or eat anything other than weeties and milk never changing out of his pyjamas, obsessively watching tv news.

    He’s been screaming abuse at the neighbours including their children, accusing them of not voting for Tony Abbott and threatening to sue and bankrupt them for voting the wrong way.

    The worst thing is he has bought 50 rabbits from god knows where and let them loose in the garage. Every time Mr Abbott makes a mistake or fails one more day to win government he shoots one of the rabbits at point blank range. The smell in the garage is overwhelming, as you can imagine. I don’t go in there any more.

    Do you think I should report him to the RSPCA?

  19. I wonder if the fractional reservist house-niggers have a justification for this:

    “Karzai urges Afghans not to panic as bank withdrawals accelerate”

    Another of the benefits that their irrational support for this practice has delivered to the world.

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