Posted by: graemebird | April 5, 2011

Obama’s Queensberry Rules

  1. Obama seems to have stumbled on an idea that has some potential, and might have actually worked had it been applied with vigor from the fall of the iron curtain. Here are some assumptions.

    1. Fully repressive societies cannot survive without killing civilains.

    2. War, shorn of its persecution of civilians, isn’t the worst thing in the world.

    3. America wasn’t in any position to become a full-blown world policeman.

    4. Collective security leads to all sorts of problems.

    If the Americans acted, for the most part, like Switzerland, but simply punished regimes for not following Queensberry rules, then that could have saved a lot of lives. Hardly great geostrategy but nonetheless a way of thinking that has some merit too it.

    For my part I don’t place as much importance as I used to on American geo-strategy, since its manifest that America is a captured nation. A nation in servitude to some sort of covert-operations/money creation NEXUS. The precise nature of which is a little hard to ascertain.

    And it ought not be inferred that having an open mind to Barry Soetoro’s recent performance implies that he’s a legitimate President, or even a legitimate American. He was appointed precisely BECAUSE he was an illegal candidate. There were other reasons for it of course. But what with the panic of the 9/11 culprits waking up to being busted with the astounding advent of youtube …. you expect them to go into panic mode.

 

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  1. Graeme Bird :
    04 Apr 2011 6:21:57pm
    “(1) that we are all in this together.”

    We are all in WHAT together? The problem isn’t with CO2. The problem is with liars and communists. Thats the problem.

    There is no bad effect that CO2 has on the biosphere. This is a scientific fact. And none of the lairs can prove me wrong on this matter. They don’t even argue the science any more. The proponents refuse point blank to argue the science. This is because they are frauds.

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  2. Gaede’s not only written a breakthrough physics book. He’s hilarious.

    http://www.youtube.com/user/bgaede#p/u/3/CWOa2ZkgIN8

  3. Hey Graeme, does the comic book artist Neal Adams contention that the earth is expanding also include other celestial bodies such as the moon? I think he does say that.

    Here is scientific evidence that kind of destroys that idea.

    OKAY YOU FUCKING MORON. LETS HAVE IT IN YOUR OWN WORDS WHY YOU THINK THE MOON IS SHRINKING.

    WHAT A FUCKING STUPID THEORY. BUT YOU GO AHEAD AND MAKE SENSE OF IT.

    • No they are completely on the wrong track. The moon is expanding, albeit slowly. And they haven’t come up with evidence to say otherwise.

      You are a real fucking dope aren’t you? Yes you are. Talk about scarps is hardly evidence for anything.

      • No fuck you idiot. You have a new theory that the moon is shrinking. Now you are a fucking moron. Lets have you explanation.

        Fucking hell. What a dumb fucking theory. The moon is shrinking in your idiotic point of view. Well lets have your explanation then. Where is all that matter disappearing too?

      • LOOK YOU FUCKING DUMMY. OBVIOUSLY YOU’VE FALLEN FOR THIS IDIOCY. GOOD LORD YOU MUST BE BARELY A DAY OVER 17. THATS HOW STUPID YOU ARE.

        IF YOU BELIEVE THIS STUPIDITY THAT YOU ARE PUSHING, AND YOU DO, THEN LETS HAVE YOUR EXPLANATION IN YOUR OWN WORDS.

  4. Obama is much more of a legitimate American than you are a legitimate Australian.

    NO HE’S NOT.

    He was born in the US,

    NO HE WASN’T.

    where were you born?

    In addition to this, can you confirm if you were dropped on your head as a newborn or did your problems with reality arise from some other situation?

    HE WASN’T BORN IN THE US. HE HAS NO KNOWN US CITIZENSHIP. THATS WHY HE WAS SELECTED.

  5. Moderated elsewhere:

    These utter lunatics are now claiming they are going to pay coal power stations to close down. These people are attempting to be more damaging then carpet bombing.

    And yet there is no known anomaly which global warming seeks to explain. Since light is not the only form of energy passing from the sun to the earth.

  6. Nothing has come up to suggest the foreigner Soetoro is eligible. The controversy is still live and here it is from last month.

  7. Whoopie makes his lack of eligibility a “black thing”

  8. The whole technique of the shadow government is to start a controversy to hide a conspiracy. You leave all the evidence around, and you deny it vigorously. By denying the lesser controversy you stop the bigger conspiracy from ever being dealt with.

    Thats about the only trick these assholes have. And they are getting too long in the tooth to learn new tricks.

    • FOR FUCKSAKES YOU FUCKING MORON. YOU’VE GOT A NEW THEORY. ITS A STUPID FUCKING THEORY.

      NOW PRODUCE AN ARGUMENT OF SHUT UP.

  9. LOOK YOU FUCKING MORON. HAVE YOU GOT SOME EVIDENCE FOR YOUR NEW THEORY OR NOT?

  10. Bird

    you’re getting a lot of mention over at the Cat about Keelhaul.

    • Right. I’ll take a look. One wonders if these savages have come around. Perhaps even just for arguments sakes. Like you could get a primitive who eats people, who was nonetheless taking pride in his understanding of basic logic as he et children with a tossed salad. That would be akin to Catallaxy finally coming around on Operation Keelhaul.

  11. We need to get something clear about Keelhaul. Savages like Tillman and SOON considered this “rough justice” for alleged wrong-doing of people of the same race as the women and children the allies murdered. In SOONS formulation, these refugees had people amongst them who conspired with the Nazis to murder Russian peoples.

    Now this is bullshit. The Russian people were comparatively untouched by the Nazis. The Nazis murdered non-Russian Soviets. The communists murdered non-Russian Soviets. And the refugees, murdered by the allies, were ………. you guessed it NON-RUSSIAN-SOVIETS.

    So all three parties spent their time murdering non-Russian Soviets. Who were our friends. Had done nothing wrong. And ought to have been our allies against communism. Its a far more sickening war crime even then the holocaust. And its the silent gorilla in the McCarthy story.

  12. Primitives. Barely Human:

    “for what it’s worth.
    1. The Allies can’t be held morally accountable for failing to liberate eastern Europe. They were war weary and this would have been akin to starting a whole new WWII all over again.
    2. Operation Keelhaul is worse in hindsight than it probably seemed at the time.
    3. The bombing of Dresden is universally acknowledged as an act of bastardry. The city had no strategic value and the bombing gave no strategic or tactical advantage to the Allies. The bombing of Dresden killed more civilians than the A-bomb drops on Japan.”

    Operation Keelhaul was more disgusting then the holocaust. Since the fascists, in their disturbed minds, really thought that the Jews were in the way of the sort of society they wanted to create. And we evidently thought so as well. Since we refused to take these Jews as migrants when the national socialists gave us that option.

    Whereas we murdered these little girls in Keelhaul, on the basis of pure gutlessness.

  13. “1. The Allies can’t be held morally accountable for failing to liberate eastern Europe. ”

    How’s that for a total misrepresentation of history!!!! FDR GAVE eastern europe to the communists. This was perpetrated deliberately, and at the same time of robbing his soldiers of materiel.

    Can you savages not GET FUCKING REAL? Just for arguments sakes? Just for the logical exercise of it.

    You fucking idiot. It wasn’t a case of them not rolling the communists after the fact. They perpetrated to have the communists take over.

  14. “Dresden and Keelhaul were both undertaken in a good faith effort to achieve legitimate goals.”

    I’m willing to bash any child-killer wannabe who says this sort of shit to my face. As I said: These people at catallaxy are primitive vermin. Spineless insects. Flouride-sucking sheeple. And note …. they cannot so much as look at the problem on a logical basis.

    Supposing you deny your soldiers materiel in order to send them home to Mum safe? Suppose you scrimp on the carpet-bombing of their opponents? What is your excuse?

    Oh we just had to go off and burn some little German girls. Turn them into crispy critters, and we had to give all our producer goods to Stalin so he could maintain his regime, murder non-Russian Soviets in grisly tag-team with Hitler, and so forth.

    Thats the excuse for not giving our guys the support necessary to get them home safe.

    Our values were as perverted as those of the Nazis. Of course it doesn’t seem that way. Because we won and they didn’t.

    War blesses the causes of the victors and damns the causes of those defeated. So that the legitimate and absolutely essential right of secession was all but destroyed by the American Civil War.

  15. Let use not forget that Sinclair Davis also came out in favor of carpet-bombing German civilians. Primitive sheeple. Clearly they would be without argument if them and theirs were slated for ethnic cleansing of the most severe variant. What would they say to the cannibal, the nazi or the mad-bombers?

    They would already have agreed with the principal calling for their own demise if they were to face such parties. So there they would stand, children by their side, having already agreed that they ought to be done away with.

  16. Only CL and Just War Theory come out well from this disgusting incident. All the other Catallaxians have come out as complete dorks when it comes to military theory, historical interpretation ….. and as humans. These are the judgments of people that can be described as barely human.

    Supposing I’m arguing with the Cannibal to spare their lives and that of their kids? Goold lord I wouldn’t have a leg to stand on. He would say that they are no different from the pig or the possum. Only tastier.

  17. Don’t be letting this Nazi cunt Tillman get away with this. Or that primitive wop cunt Cambria. You all know you ought to beat up this fascist for advocating the mass murder of women and children. I never once let SOON get away with his racist ethnic cleansing advocacy.

    Yet Sinclair approves and will keep him there no matter what.

    See these people are tribal. When its not their kids being turned to smoke they are happy as all get up.

    And notice the Tllman belligerent defense not based on reason. But only on the cult of personality.

    Here we see a full-blown Nazi in action.

    • Birdie

      I don’t think Ive ever expressed an opinion on keelhaul or other shit like that, so why the abuse?

      • You’ve been there the whole time. Never once have you shown a different attitude from the others.

  18. Note that Cambria showed himself never to be a libertarian. He was against stealing, where it affected his tribe. Stealing off everyone else was fine. And he made this very clear when he came out in favor of the Paulson heist.

    And in the same way Cambria, Tillman, and Davidson et al are all in favor of slaughtering innocent civilians. Not from their tribe mind you. But anyone else yeah sure.

  19. I will find you Tillman you nazi cunt.

    You’d have to wonder how many others are like Tillman and glory over the mass murder of innocents, so long as they don’t identify with them. It appears to be the subtext to a lot of what the environmentalists are about. They would appear to be closet Tillmans … a lot of them.

  20. NO WE WERE NOT TALKING ABOUT SOME FICTIONAL TRIAL OF SS-MEN THAT IS GOING ON ONLY IN YOUR HEAD JASON SOON.

    THE TOPIC WAS THE REAL OPERATION KEELHAUL. NOT SOME FANTASY TRIAL OF SS-TYPES THAT GO BY THE SAME NAME IN YOUR SKULL ALONE.

  21. IMAGINE THAT. SOON THINKS THAT IF WE CAN PROVE THAT THERE WAS A SINGLE SS-MAN AMONGST ALL THESE NON-GERMAN REFUGEES, ITS ALRIGHT TO KILL ALL OF THE REFUGEES.

    SOON, THE PRIMITIVE GOOK, HAS STUCK WITH THIS STORY CONSISTENTLY. BUT HE HASN’T SHOWN THAT NON-RUSSIAN SOVIET REFUGEE GIRLS, ARE GERMAN SS-MEN. BUT HE STILL STICKS WITH THIS STORY.

    WHY?

    WELL APART FROM BEING A DIRTY WEASEL, HE’S AN FDR AND STATUS QUO SYCHOPHANT. THEY DON’T TEACH THE KIDS THAT FDR IS A WAR CRIMINAL. AND THATS GOOD ENOUGH FOR SOON.

  22. It simply eludes me how anyone can mix up a 26 year old German male member of the SS, with an 8 year old Estonian girl, shivering with cold, desperately hungry, and crying because she sees her dad being beaten with clubs by British soldiers.

    Like I said, this is the most unforgivable and sickening war crime ever. More disgusting then the holocaust.

  23. Was Churchill a war criminal too?

    • We don’t judge matters on the basis of the cult of personality. We judge matters on the basis of REASON. So it goes in science and also in the case of war crimes. I usually go too easy on Churchill. But thats probably a sentimental weakness. Had he been hauled off before a war crimes court I don’t know how things would have gone. Because you have to ask how much leverage he really had.

      Power is a strange thing. You only have it when people think you have it. So the tendency would be to go along with the communist infiltrated Americans so as to maintain your position. By definition, on the face of it of course he is a war criminal. But we would want to get all the facts out in a trial and see just how badly culpable he is.

      But there is no doubt about it. The holocaust is a war crime. Or just a crime. So obviously doing the same thing to innocents who are mostly non-Jews is also a crime.

      But the real point to focus on is this.

      1. Operation Keelhaul was a war crime and the worst ever.

      2. That you argue otherwise is to do with two things ….
      (a) The cult of personality
      (b) The cult of bipartisan consensus.

      You are too old to judge things by way of these cults. You didn’t come to Australia just to see the Kangaroo and stay an ignorant and ethically retarded gook.

  24. Do we know the composition of Keelhaul refugees? Were the children spared? How many children were there? Were only the menfolk killed and how many of them were SS and Cossack war criminals?

    • Don’t play ignorant SOON. We have been through this so many times already. No the children weren’t spared as you well know. And you know that there is no lying on my site. Asking that question is again telling the lie that you don’t know the answer, and that you would disapprove of Keelhaul if the answer was different. So I’ll have to wipe that comment sooner rather than later.

      I don’t get it you know. I’ve had the privilege of watching my Thai inlaws young girls grow up into young ladies. They are just delightful. I don’t get this thing where we all have to approve of murdering kids just because they are of a different race or on the other side of a dispute.

  25. Failure to target regime leadership is a crime in my books. Since it means the death of millions of ordinary people:

    “Churchill’s understandable thirst for revenge against the Nazis who had bombed English cities took a curious turn, however. The mass British counter-raids aimed at “breaking the enemy’s morale” were targeted almost exclusively against the “lower orders,” who died by the hundreds of thousands in the “area bombing” that neither broke civilian morale nor substantially hampered German war production (although it did waste the lives of thousands of allied airmen).

    Yet the sumptuous, undefended villas of Nazi leaders (the very men who had ordered the blitz on English cities) and major Nazi industrialists (who, along with their American partners like Prescott Bush, had built Hitler’s war machine) were specifically excluded from the attacks. What stirring chivalry among the warrior elite!”

    http://www.rense.com/general47/thil.htm

  26. Graeme, where would we without music? Do you know The Mountain Goats? I’m so smitten with them/him. Billie Piper and Christopher Eccleston were the best Dr Who couple. David Tennant was to die for too. But Billie as Rose was unmatchable. God I miss them.

  27. This one melts.

    • Listening to them now. Very interesting.

  28. Rain noise for snoozing. I don’t know if it chews up the bandwidth.

    http://www.rainymood.com/

  29. Bird:

    The Today show’s Donald Trump interview:

    http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/21134540/vp/42469716#42469716

    The Donald goes ballistic on the birth certificate, says he has investigators on the case.

    “They won’t be laughing if I’m President.”

  30. Good news. Notice the technique is always the same. Leave the evidence for a scandal lying around and then deny deny deny. But if Trump suddenly dies of a heart attack or contracts fast-acting cancer, will the same sheeple keep their freelance denial up?

  31. mmm, the rain tape is great, very relaxing & best heard snug and warm inside falling on a tin roof.

    Have a look at this review from the left of Quiggin’s book. Note the reviewer is a poetry scholar, God love him.

    http://www.thenation.com/article/159728/swans-and-zombies-neoliberalisms-permanent-contradiction

    • It seems that libertarians have become suckers for the Northern Hemisphere bankers program to whack a huge debt on anything good. They defend their enslavement to the death, and won’t demand the end of fractional reserve, the breaking up of the big banks, and the retargeting of ASIO to realise that the Northern Hemisphere banking cartel (or the families that may control it) are our mortal enemies.

      • So true Mr Bird
        Those nefarious Jews- the Soroses, the Rothschilds, Greenspans, Rubins, and those in the Goldman Sachs extended family should be brought to account. A certain Mr Hitler was very prescient in this respect

      • Soros is a bit of a worry. The Rothschilds may be the ultimate bigshots. But I don’t know this, cannot prove this, and do not know how influential they are. Thats why we need the retargeting of ASIO. We need to find out the truth behind what may be a lot of myths.

        No Goldman Sachs executive ought to be allowed into Australia. He ought to be out on character grounds. Consider the mistake we made letting Merryl Lynch and Rothschild into Australia. They went and sorted the privatisation of Queensland rail in the worst formulation that its possible to imagine.

        The goal is now clear. Its to take a sure thing or a good thing and attach money-creation debt to it. Thats all its ever been. Any other motive was just to dupe libertarians and produce a cover story for politicians of all shades.

  32. Gregorian chant is good, too, Birdie

    • So you see what they’ll do Philomena. They’ll surf off neoliberalism to attach a debt to anything we need. Rivers. Resources. The sea if they could. Fishes swimming in that sea (privatsie the fisheries). This was all so different then the private Klondike gold rush, it couldn’t be more different. But the whole idea was different. It was never about opening up business opportunities to everyone. Or about more efficient management. It was about taking assets that couldn’t go broke and basing new money creation on them. So the shadow government doesn’t need to work. Doesn’t need to do anything. They put all the good things in bondage, and gain the money creation benefit ……. then they sit back and watch libertarians and conservatives defend this practice like unbelievable simpletons.

  33. In America the income tax on individuals is actually illegal. Now I think an income tax is alright for people who are so well off they don’t struggle to pay it. But if this law was enforced in the US it would be marvelous. Because people would seek to hold their assets in their own name AND THE BIG CORPORATIONS WOULD BE BLOWN OUT OF THE FINANCIAL AIR. To tax companies and not be allowed to tax individuals would mean the end of big corporation capitalism. Since they would be destroyed by competition from below.

    • Mr Bird
      The prodigious and verbose Fran Barlow is referring to little babies as ‘parasites’ over at Catallaxy. These leftists have no shame

      • But is she using it as a technical term? Or is she saying this with malice?

  34. Graeme Bird :
    09 Apr 2011 3:59:14am
    Check out this dimwitted wallowing in error:

    “The fact that much climate science is based on models rather than direct observation arouses many people’s suspicions. But models are an essential part of science.”

    Suspicions? The point of the objections has been that the frauds, posing as scientists, have treated model results, from failed models, as if they were empirical evidence.

    Here we see the root of the failure of socialist science. It comes down to a total failure of the philosophy of science. These two are exemplars in this regard.

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  35. Serious consumer price inflation in the US now imminent.

  36. That’s bad news for consumers, but good news for stockholders.

  37. More likely to be bad news for both. Sometimes it can work well as the new money has to go somewhere. But the tendency is for the inflation tax to work with the company tax to impoverish non-financial companies.

  38. Graeme Bird :
    15 Apr 2011 11:54:04am

    There isn’t going to be any excess funds to be handing out to people, and the process of stealing money off people and then giving it back is inherently wealth-destroying. Unlike an increase in the tax-free threshold, which would take the pressure of families without wrecking the economy.

    There won’t be any excess funds to raise the tax free threshold if we adopt the carbon tax. Since the carbon tax will ruin the economy and thereby reduce the tax take from all other sources. When we cut spending and follow good policy we run surpluses effortlessly. When we follow bad policy based on lies and allow spending to run amok, surpluses are not available for us regardless of how much more we plan to steal.

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  39. Sinclairs ignorance has him thinking that:

    1. Truman did a good job sacking MacArthur.
    2. The RBA does a good job for Australia.


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