Posted by: graemebird | May 8, 2011

Shadow Government Sheeple Programming In Action At Catallaxy

Catallaxy. 
Can you get it through your thick fucking heads 
that THERE WAS NO RAID.  
There was no raid.  
You say yes. I say fuck no there wasn't.  
Stop it. 
Stop it now.  
Stop feeding this fucking farce.  
There was no raid.  
There was no fucking raid.  
There wasn't a raid. 
THEREWASNTAFUCKINGRAID. 
And until you find evidence for a raid  
will you stop fucking doing your masters bidding
and stop hypnotising yourselves  
into those strategic positions  
that your overlords have programmed you for.
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  1. “Is there anyone saying that they weren’t accidents? This wasn’t a daytime raid to issue a warrant in suburban LA. It was a military operation, conducted in the middle of the night, on a fortified compound in potentially unfriendly territory, probably with a kill order on the main occupant of the house.”

    AJ you dumb shit. THERE WAS NO RAID. Stop hypnotising yourself.

  2. “Can I also assure you, fleeced that I haven’t had a sex change like Rog did to please Geoffrey over the weekend and suddenly morph into a lunatic leftie on Monday. That just isn’t happening.”

    Thats what he said before the greatest stealing the world has yet seen. But Joseph Cambria (Scientist) supported the bailout just the same. Wearing a pink dress and his wifes underwear while supporting it.

  3. Captures nicely the feel of the nastiness and skewed nature of the fractional reserve boom.

  4. WHAT’S YOUR POINT ABOUT THE YETI? REPORTS OF LARGE HOMINIDS ARE COMMON TO EVERY CONTINENT. WE HAVE SUCH REPORTS EVEN ON THIS CONTINENT.

    • YOU IDIOT. THE AMERICANS HAVE TO COME UP WITH THE EVIDENCE AND THEY HAVE NOT DONE SO.

  5. Required listening:

  6. Answer your own question:

    1. What are first-hand reports by people claiming to have seen a bigfoot? First-hand reports? Not evidence?

    2. What are footprints? Not evidence? They match up with known Neanderthal footprints and have dermal ridges? Are footprints of an animal evidence for that animal?

    3. What is film footage? Is that evidence? You are such a fucking moron Joseph Cambria. Remember you are the guy who sees a video of a fellow with a nose half as long as Bin Laden and you assume that you have to know his name to determine its not him. You are a fucking dummy mate.

    Now I don’t consider all of the above proof. But its a FACT that it constitutes evidence. Thats a fact you fucking degenerate.

    • NO AN IDIOT DRESSED UP IN A GORILLA SUIT IS OBVIOUSLY NOT EVIDENCE FOR A BIGFOOT.

      YOU ARE SUCH A MORON CAMBRIA. WHAT A FUCKING DUMMY YOU ARE.

      • NO YOU ARE LYING. WE HAVE A SINGLE FILM FROM 68 THAT DOES NOT MATCH THAT MAKE-BELIEVE STORY OF YOURS.

        AS FAR AS I KNOW THATS THE ONLY FOOTAGE. BUT THE BODY PROPORTIONS PRECLUDE ANY GORILLA SUIT BUSINESS.

        FURTHER TO THAT THE TECHNOLOGY IS NOW THERE TO FAKE IT UNLIKE BACK IN 68. BUT NO-ONE SEEMS TO HAVE BOTHERED TO HAVE TAKEN UP THE SPECIAL EFFECTS CHALLENGE OF FAKING IT. SO THE COMPETING HYPOTHESIS IS SO FAR WITHOUT GROUNDS.

        ITS ONLY SCIENCE CAMBRIA.

        BUT I LIKE IT.

      • I’VE TOLD YOU. SCROLL UP. MOVIE FOOTAGE. FIRST HAND TESTIMONY. FOOTPRINTS WITH “FINGERPRINTS” AS IT WERE. THAT IS TO SAY DERMAL RIDGES. VERY EXPENSIVE TO FAKE FINGERPRINTS AND DERMAL RIDGES. PROBABLY IMPOSSIBLE FORTY YEARS AGO.

      • Big Foot existed. Sure he did. Even though he’s the last of his species he was so dangerous and evil – even as an idea – he was taken out with two shots to the back of the head and secretly buried at sea with full monster honors because no one wanted a shrine to be built on land in tribute to him which would inevitably detract from the glory of Modern Machine Man.

      • NO-ONE HAS EVER GOTTEN IN A GORILLA SUIT AND BEEN MISTAKEN FOR A BIGFOOT. NOT ONCE. NOT EVER.

      • Graeme, a Filipino woman I work with has a family including mother who still lives in a remote mountainous region of the Philippines. She said her mother is a practising witchdoctor as was her grandmother. Her grandmother was Spanish, her father’s side indigenous. She told me the Philippines has the Kapre, its version of the hairy, oversized not-quite-human-not-quite-ape being that’s been the object of countless expeditions and hoaxes to date but whose existence has not been disproved by mere scepticism.

      • Wrong again Bird.

        NO LYING ON THIS SITE IDIOT.

      • “NO-ONE HAS EVER GOTTEN IN A GORILLA SUIT AND BEEN MISTAKEN FOR A BIGFOOT. NOT ONCE. NOT EVER.”

        THAT STATEMENT STANDS. YOUR EVIDENCE FURTHER CONFIRMED THE RIGHTNESS OF THAT STATEMENT. NO-ONE WAS TAKEN IN. NO-ONE.

      • Let me repeat for emphasis. No-one has ever mistaken a man in a gorilla suit for a bigfoot. Not once. Not ever. Your example wasn’t a man in a gorilla suit and no-one was taken in. When that example came up I listened to coast to coast am and their people identified this as a fake immediately. By your own admission the money was advanced on a good faith basis. What is this evidence for?

        Dimwitted people like you are always taken in by this sort of thing. It reminds me of when fake Obama documentation was advanced for the purpose of fooling Orly Taitz. This was checked out and found to be a phony in due course. The only people fooled were the skeptics who took the fake to be evidence for Obamas eligibility. But no fake document can ever be evidence for anyone’s eligibility. Only a real document can.

        More anti-logic from the PZ Myers crowd.

      • EVERYTHING YOU WRITE IS A LIE.

        NO-ONE HAS EVER DRESSED IN A GORILLA SUIT AND FOOLED SOMEONE HE WAS BIGFOOT.

        1. YOUR EXAMPLE WAS NOT OF A MAN DRESSING IN A GORILLA SUIT.

        2. NO-ONE WAS TAKEN IN.

        THE MATTER WAS RESOLVED WITHIN HOURS OF PEOPLE HAVING ACCESS TO THE MOCKUP. THIS IS A CASE OF THE DUPES PROJECTING THEIR CREDULOUS NATURE ONTO OTHERS.

        SO YOU ARE A DUPE FOR THE BIG BANG. SPECIAL RELATIVITY. THE DIRTY SNOWBALL MODEL OF COMETS. THE SHRINKING MOON THEORY. YOU NAME IT. YOU WERE DUPED BY IT. BUT NO-ONE WAS EVER GOING TO BE TAKEN IN BY THAT MOCK-UP. I KNOW SINCE THE VERY FIRST TIME I HEARD ABOUT IT, IT WAS BEING DESCRIBED AS A FAKE.

      • I don’t know what Assange has said about 9/11. But then for many of the goodies that is not the big story anymore nor the killer event that tells the truth above all else about secretive government. There are so many events to choose from to demonstrate that it’s really an embarrassment of riches.

        The really horrifying thing about 9/11 for him and me and others was the way in which the US responded to it, and still is.

      • oops

  7. So you are an expert on bigfoot now?

  8. NO THERE IS NO CONVERGENT EVIDENCE FOR NESSIE DOPE. BUT I’VE JUST PROVED THAT BIGFOOT EXISTS, VIA THE SCIENTIFIC METHOD.

    WITH ALL DUE RECOGNITION FOR COMPETING HYPOTHESES LIKE THE MILLIONAIRE DECEIVERS HYPOTHESIS.

    BIGFOOT AND NEANDERTHAL FOOTPRINTS ARE IDENTICAL. BUT THIS IS SOMETHING THAT LAME-STREAM SCIENCE JUST DOESN’T WANT TO KNOW.

  9. No scratch two comments above. Bigfoot has to be considered a proven reality until someone catches a cadre of eccentric millionaires putting about fake evidence with individual footprint dermal ridges.

    So yes. The scientific method tells us that bigfoot exists. And its probably the fact of them being in a rich country like the US that the evidence for them is so good.

    With the Yeti its environment and the relative poverty of the people, might mean that there is less convergent evidence around. That hardly means he doesn’t exist. An animal doesn’t magically come into existence when a white fellow from Harvard or NASA testifies to it.

  10. The evidence for the existence of bigfoot is overwhelming. The evidence for the mischievous millionaires is not there. No-one has ever been caught making convincing fake footprints of bigfoot. The technology would be there now. But no such evidence has been found.

    Its only science but it works. Since we have convergent evidence for bigfoot its clear he exists. Its also clear why this is an embarrassment to evolution crowd, who are noted for taking a moronic view of a pretty good theory. For a good example of this syndrome you can scarcely do better than the moron PZ Myers.

  11. How do you know nessie doesn’t exist fella?

  12. Bigfoot is a little different from the alien stories since the convergent evidence is there. But in the case of the alien business you have the spooks getting involved and muddying the waters. So its a more difficult call.

    But we have a skull from 900 years ago that proves a hybrid breeding program from back then. So the scientific method demands that we take evidence seriously even in this case.

  13. There is no movement more anti-scientific and more anti-evidence than the skeptical movement. There is also no movement more evil. The skeptical movement is far worse than the jihad. More nihilistic. The hatred of science is thick in the air with these guys. You go over to Randi’s site you have to take a shower afterwards.

  14. NO YOU DUMB WOP. WE DON’T HAVE CONVERGENT EVIDENCE FOR LEPRACHAUNS.

    BUT WE DO HAVE CONVERGENT EVIDENCE FOR BIGFOOT. SO BIGFOOT IS SCIENTIFICALLY VERIFIED, WHEREAS LEPRACHAUNS ARE NOT.

    GET THE PICTURE YOU RETARD? ITS ONLY SCIENCE. BUT I LIKE IT.

  15. Lets go over it all again for the retarded skeptics like the stunningly dopey Joseph Cambria. When we line up the various paradigms, and I can really only think of two …. Bigfoot is proven scientifically. Since the second explanation is of rich-guy fakery. Now this could be the reality. Extremely expensive fakery getting the footprints right.

    So while I’ll admit that the second paradigm has an outside chance of being right, for practical purposes bigfoot has to be presumed a prosaic scientific reality. Now this buggers all the crap evolutionary theory thats out there at the moment. And a good thing too. Its always good to see unscientific subsidised dummies proven wrong.

  16. Bird, was Paul McCartney killed in a car accident in 1967? I heard that the Beatles replaced him with a lookalike.

    What is the convergent evidence supporting or negating this claim?

    NO SORRY. NO MATTER HOW MANY PEOPLE DRESS UP IN A GORILLA SUIT, THAT CAN NEVER HAVE ANY BEARING ON THE SASQUATCH STORY.

  17. Brother I have to ask. Who or what is a Catallaxy?

    You are correct about the raid. 100%, yes sir. My brother inlaw is a Seal. He said some things. I don’t want to say what he said but he said some.

  18. Where is the evidence of a shadow Government?

    THE MOLTEN IRON OR STEEL, COMING FROM THE SOUTH TOWER PRIOR TO ITS COLLAPSE

  19. Cambria also screwed up on the birth certificate issue in the same way. He thought that Orly Taitz checking the validity of a fake certificate created by the Soetoro camp was evidence that Obama was born in Hawaii. But in the same way that 1000 people in Gorilla suits can never neutralise the existence of the Sasquatch, 1000 fake certificate from the Soetoro camp can never prove that he was born in Hawaii.

  20. Breaking news: Barack Obama is dead

    http://www.cageprisoners.com/our-work/opinion-editorial/item/1534-breaking-news-barack-obama-is-dead

    • Yeah doesn’t this simple reversal throw things into perspective. If they had him under house arrest for many years it was hardly a good thing to simply execute him for propaganda purposes. Since after all his apparent absence was skewing decision-making and getting many people killed. Not the least of which were Australian.

      But then again if they simply made it all up and he had been killed earlier then thats no good either. None of these ins and outs matter. All this lying is hiding the birther issue and the birther issue is hiding shadow governments role in 9/11.

      But notice just how ridiculous it is when you put the shoe on the other foot. This is part of the sheeple nature of the Catallaxians. They are incapable of keeping and forming some sort of stable understanding of what is absurd and idiotic and what is not.

  21. It takes an enormous amount of effort to get a man to pass as a gorilla. And so far I’ve only seen them pull it off when the man is sitting down. Now this is never a case of a man getting in a gorilla suit. This is hours of makeup and prosthetics. And it still won’t gel if you don’t have the gorilla behind a desk, a table or a drum kit.

    All this sails over the head of the monstrously idiotic Joseph Cambria. A Godsend to my readers in that it shows them that rich bankers are duds and not great entrepreneurs.

    I challenge anyone to come up with a human that can get in a gorilla suit and look like a gorilla, without digital altering and without cropping the picture at the stomach. Maybe it can be done, but its a big operation. So its the mischievous millionaire story or its nothing.

  22. Here is a man in a gorilla suit. While watching it try and think to yourself what a dumb fuck quisling Cambria is, and what sort of an industry it would take to allow someone that stupid to make bucketloads of cash.

  23. You simply cannot mix up a man in a gorilla suit with a gorilla, much less a bigfoot. But here is a more convincing version. And yet:

    1. This is a lot of work, a lot of money, and a great deal of technology. More than what was possible 40 years ago.

    2. This would not be a convincing gorilla, if the drum kit was taken away and we had all the camera angles. The proportions are simply wrong.

    We must go over it again for Joseph Cambria and other retarded quislings:

    NO AMOUNT OF GORILLA-SUIT WEARING BLOKES CAN NEUTRALISE THE CONVERGENT EVIDENCE FOR THE BIGFOOT.

    The evidence is either there or it isn’t. And a fellow putting on a suit cannot erase it, any more than the Obama camp issuing fake documents as a rope-a-dope can make him eligible.

  24. “Shorter Sukrit: Japan was provoked into WW2, Fighting it was the worst thing Australia ever did for freedom”

    But this amounts to an historical fact SOON.

  25. Graeme, the Australian yeti or bigfoot is the yowie and most Aboriginal people today will tell you of sightings or stories of their existence if their lifetime. Yowies were described in great detail by Aboriginal people to the white settlers and the earliest reporting of a yeti by a white man was in Sydney in 1790. Since then there have been many thousands of reported sightings.

  26. Here’s someone who has sussed these shadow government assholes out and come up with the exact same diagnosis as me. Note also that Obama is closing his mouth after each word and speaking staccato in some cases. This is a ploy to avoid reverse speech analysis

    • YOU COMPLETE MORON. A MULTILAYERED COMPUTER IMAGE IS NOT AND CAN NEVER BE A BIRTH CERTIFICATE. GOOD LORD YOU ARE A CRETIN.

    • Bird blathers: “This is a ploy to avoid reverse speech analysis”

      YEAH SO WHAT’S YOUR POINT???

  27. Graeme, the catalaxian crew are indeed sheeple. I think the Sage of Baltimore (H.L. Mencken) had their like in mind when he spoke of the gullible, dumb, petty “boobs” he saw everywhere, who stomp on those below them and grovel before those above them.

    Of course this was a contrarian satirist’s caricature of a large segment of the American population as he saw it then, but you wonder what he would make of America and Americans today when corporations run the show, bleeding the mass of the people dry while fattening the 1%, when war is enshrined as a national virtue, political ignorance and obedience are rewarded and historical amnesia is at record levels. America is indeed in a dark place, drifting along, with so many finding glory in vengeance, believing what the master-owners say no matter how many times they change the official story.

    • Yeah its pretty sad isn’t it. You know the two pictures (one video, and one picture) that the CIA have released ….. they have whacked OBAMA’S left ear where OSAMA’S left ear is meant to be.

      • Crikey, suppose the CIA is too proud to ask for help from the likes of Steven Spielberg or Ridley Scott who could’ve made a good fist of all the mock-ups. Meanwhile even the Third World is laughing at the ham-fisted productions and scripts the klutzes came up with. LOL

  28. sorry, I left a letter out of my email addy.

  29. “I’m awaiting Graeme’s response about what civilised nations should have done wrt to Imperial Japan, 1933-1945.”

    I can go one better. I can make it multi-choice.

    (a) Go to war with Japan

    (b) Not go to war with Japan, and make sure diplomacy was designed, to stay at peace with her.

    (c) Voice concerns about human rights and give low-key aid to anti-Japanese resistance.

    (d) reinforce forward positions (like Singapore and Hawaii) making them unassailable to the Japanese.

    (e) rearm to make a Japanese attack implausible.

    (f) Make it known to Japan that taking territory off Stalin would not be viewed by the West as an hostile act. But that taking Singapore or anything South of that would.

    (g) b through f

  30. Interesting. Its what I was trying to tell Cambria. Every continent has these reports.

  31. One thing’s for sure Graeme there’s lots we don’t know about hominids.

    Perhaps the most interesting evidence/debate in Australia comes from 60,000 years ago by the shores of the once-verdant Lake Mungo in south-eastern NSW i.e. the scientific squabble over the meaning of the DNA and origins of Mungo Man. It’s said the Mungo Man’s DNA is unlike anything seen before and that while he was fully modern anatomically, he came from a genetic lineage that is now extinct.

  32. Graeme, I’m getting dizzy trying to figure out which comments are in response to which others. A major fault in this WordPress blog version methinks. It seems to place comments every which way.

    Perhaps you can disable the “reply” function. I’m sure it would work out fine.

  33. Hey Bird

    I just realized. You’re on j ………

    SAVE THE LYING FOR THE PZ MYERS SITE FOR IMBECILES. NO LYING HERE.

    • So Graeme is on the side of……..

      NO LYING ON THIS SITE IDIOT. SAVE IT FOR THE PZ MYERS INTERNET SEWER.

  34. Bird, the idea that the shadow government is controlled by shape shifting reptiles,

    I WOULDN’T IMAGINE SO. DO YOU HAVE EVIDENCE FOR SUCH A NOTION?

    IN THE END INDIVIDUALS SUCH AS MYSELF MAY HAVE NO WAY OF KNOWING MUCH ABOUT THE INDIVIDUALS INVOLVED. I DON’T QUITE SEE YOUR POINT. THAT THERE SI A SHADOW GOVERNMENT IS PROVEN. NOT KNOWING A WHOLE LOT ABOUT WHO THE PEOPLE ARE AND SO FORTH HARDLY CHANGES THAT.

    THIS IS A BIT LIKE YOU THINKING YOU NEEDED THE ACTORS NAME TO KNOW HE WASN’T BIN LADEN. I SUSPECT MORE STUPIDITY ON YOUR PART. WHAT EXACTLY WAS THE POINT OF THE QUESTION? IS THAT WHAT YOU BELIEVE? IF SO WHAT EVIDENCE DO YOU HAVE?

    I ONLY GO ON THE EVIDENCE. WHEREAS YOU SEEM TO RELY ON SOME SORT OF WOPPY LIVER-QUIVER. IF I HAD A LIVER-QUIVER ABOUT REPTILE-PEOPLE I WOULDN’T KNOW WHAT TO DO WITH IT SINCE I ONLY GO ON THE BASIS OF SCIENCE.

    ITS ONLY SCIENCE, BUT I LIKE IT. BUT YOU CANNOT SEE BEHIND CLOSED DOORS WITH IT.

  35. Note the nature of this malign skeptics movement. A movement by and for dupes. Here is this fool from Chicago … Bird Flaps. Taken in by a computer image. At some level Flaps must know he’s a dupe. But he’s trying to pass it off onto others.

  36. Graeme, I see Julian Assange has been awarded the 2011 Sydney Peace Prize.
    I do hope he will be able to be in Sydney in person to accept this honour and make his acceptance speech in Sydney Town Hall.

    I’d really like to hear his views on Israel, among many other things.

    • Right. Like a lot of people I’m a bit ambivalent about the fellow. But I saw Pilger talking about him and I was almost punching the air cheering. This was not a usual thing for me. I always liked to listen to Pilger any chance I could get but I would think of him as borderline deranged. Now I’m like Douglas at the Lincoln inauguration. He said something like “I am with that man. I am with him”

      • Pilger is very sanctimonious I agree. He’s done some good work in the past but I’m no fan of him as a journalist or polemicist and therefore don’t give give a lot of weight or even attention to what he says or writes.

        But Assange is a true iconoclast and brave and he has done good by his work. And he’s attracted a heap of hatred and interference from the forcess of darkness, a clear sign that he has wounded. What’s not to like?

        Robert Manne has written an in-depth almost exhaustive portrait of him, his work and that of his technological associates. I think it was in an edition of The Monthly. It shows the layers upon layers of influences on him. Fascinating stuff.

      • The greater enemy right now is shadow government. We need to know as much as we can about what goes on behind closed doors. So despite some concerns I support him. One wonders if he’s been used for lesser scandal protection. Or if he’s been backed against the wall and knows he cannot step over the line too much. Because he was somewhat disparaging vis a vis the 9/11 false flag. I guess a fellow wants to live and see the sky once in awhile.

      • Bird doesn’t like wikileaks or Assange NO ACTUALLY YOU ARE LYING. GO TO THE PZ MYERS INTERNET SEWER IF YOU ARE FEELING ODD AND NEED TO TELL LIES.

  37. I reckon Mr Assange would say, as do so many others, that Israel is a useless parasite on the American body politic and taxpayer. It has no allies other than the US which says a great deal. It has no friends. It is an international pariah, for very good moral and ethical reasons.

    American taxpayers fund between 20-25% of Israel’s defense budget. Twenty-six percent of the $3 billion in military aid the US grants to the Jewish state each year is spent in Israel on weapons. Fact is, American taxpayers fund jobs in Israel’s military industries that could have gone to their our own workers and companies. Israel gets pretty much whatever it wants in terms of state-of-the-art weapons systems, and the American poor pick up the tab.

    Incredible.

  38. http://www.themonthly.com.au/julian-assange-cypherpunk-revolutionary-robert-manne-3081

  39. I do so hope Princess Beatrice is going to continue to rattle cages. All the signs are that she will.

    http://au.lifestyle.yahoo.com/fashion/features/article/-/9363831/princess-beatrice-plans-to-auction-off-that-royal-wedding-hat/

  40. Graeme, I guess it’s not rocket science though I’m a klutz about such things, but I just figured out if you click on “reply” from the very last comment on each thread and send your comment from there it will be published as the last received comment at the bottom of the thread and not in some random place in the middle.

    Hallelujah.

  41. 9/11 is definitely the central event. Because if what has happened since then has been skewed wickedly by shadow government, if the emphasis is on that how can you hold people accountable? We assume that there is shadow government manipulation. But 9/11 proves shadow government as a scientific fact. No-one else could have:

    1. Brought up Hurricane Erin to act as a power source for directed energy weapons and to dispose of the “dustfied” rubble in the North Atlantic.

    2. Destroy the airliners and replace them with other planes.

    3. Stand down the air defenses.

    4. Send a missile into the Pentagon, and with-hold security pictures to this day.

    5. Frighten more legitimate government into looking the other way.

    6. Rig up the buildings with bombs and thermate.

    7. Set up media force-feeding of the various 9/11 bullet points.

    8. Produce a bin Laden confession video involving a fat-Laden actor with a nose half as long as the nose of the man he was portraying and not have the mainstream media question it.

    9. Sheep-dip Bin Laden and shepherd along all other player such that they would have a mountain of people to blame or embarrass to cover the fact that it was shadow government that was the driving force.

    10. Promote an ineligible candidate to new messiah status and bring him all the way to the top job, as lesser scandal protection for 9/11.

  42. Hey Bird.

    Jason is reporting that Rockwell’s site found a pic with Obama using his right hand instead of his left and they reckon there’s a conspiracy.

    MY POSITION FOR THAT IS SIMPLE: JASON IS FULL OF SHIT UNTIL PROVEN OTHERWISE. I KNOW THE GUY. I FIND IT HARD NOT TO LIKE HIM. BUT HE’S AN INSCRUTABLE CHINAMAN. AND HIS SHORTHAND SUMMARIES ARE ODD AND NOT USUALLY FAIR.

  43. What ails you man> Why ain’t you written since last I was here. Get off your ass and get the good word out.

  44. My wife’s family are from Colorado way. They say they’ve seen Sasquatch. I don’t know.

    • I suspect a lot of people have seen them. If they exist, and we’ve proven via convergent evidence, that they do, then you would expect people to have seen them.

  45. Dam did you ban me?

    NO. YOU’RE GOOD.


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