Posted by: graemebird | December 20, 2011

Just Admit That This Is Science Fraud For Fucksakes…..

Looking at the following statement.  Its the sort of statement, that people on both sides of the climate science fraud debate, would be likely to agree with. They would do so in error.  But the fellow making the statement is a bullshitartist. Since he had no reason to believe that Bob Carter didn’t go along with anything he said. In fact Bob would probably agree with the statement, and has never given any indication that he wouldn’t.  Still if Bob agreed with the statement, he would be wrong to do so.  Always these assholes argue in bad faith.  Here is what this particular asshole had to say:

David Arthur :

19 Dec 2011 8:38:55pm

Thanks, Prof Carter. Deny this:

Earth is warmed by absorbtion of short wave sunlight. Because of this, Earth’s temperature can remain unchanged by returning the same amount of energy to space. That is, solar shortwave energy is balanced by the earth re-radiating to space as a ‘black body’ radiator with a characteristic temperature of ~255K; that is, from space the earth’s spectrum is roughly that of a radiating body with an optical surface temperature of around 255K.

Earth’s surface cools by evaporation of excited water molecules, heat transfer to deeper sea and to polar ice caps and by convection and radiation back into and through the atmosphere. At higher altitudes, where the atmosphere gets less dense, the proportion of energy (heat) transfer by long wave ‘thermal’ (microwave) radiation increases. Observing earth’s spectrum from space has big absorbtion bands due to greenhouse gases in the upper atmosphere. Prominent among these is carbon dioxide (CO2).

Greenhouse gases such as H2O, CO2, methane (CH4), nitrous oxide (N2O), CFC’s, and ozone (O3) absorb, then re-emit, some longwave wavelengths. About half of the re-emitted radiation is diverted back down toward the surface, as confirmed by radiation measurements at both surface and satellite observatories. This discrepancy increases with atmospheric CO2 concentration.

Historic fossil fuel use and cement production data (Oak Ridge National (US) Laboratory Carbon Dioxide Information Analysis Center) shows sufficient CO2 emission from 1800 to 2007 to raise atmospheric CO2 from 280 ppm to 430 ppm. Dissolution of CO2 in oceans has limited atmospheric CO2 to about 390 ppm, and decreased ocean pH.

Heat thus accumulates at the surface. About 85% of retained heat warms oceans, accelerating ice melting (sea level rise) and water evaporation (increasing rain and storms).

ie we have a problem, we are the cause of the problem, we are the solution of our problem.

Alert moderator ”

 

See if you can see the deception in this story?  Its pretty much all bullshit from start to finish. But amazingly its a statement that skeptics would tend to agree with in error.   I’ll give people time to think about this, before explaining just how full of shit this fellow  is.

More later.

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Responses

  1. Few people in Australia have any idea what trouble the US is in. With the US in this much trouble of course we are in trouble also. If the Americans don’t elect Ron Paul, we have the prospect of full-blown global tyranny before us. Of course if Ron Paul IS elected, the shadow government will murder him, or try to. They may be more low-key then with Kennedy. They could have induced a heart attack with Kennedy, but it was probably more effective to take him down in full view, as a warning to others. Then there was the murder attempt on Reagan. But one would expect that with Ron Paul they will give him fast-acting cancer, or a heart attack or something of this nature.

  2. The US is in a bad way with around 50% of the population living on or below the poverty line. And there’s no sign either the Dems or Republicans will be able to turn that around. Rather the projections are for the economy to continue its inexorable slide downward.

    But still it does showcase some awesome talent and cultural expression, courtesy of its fabulously rich ethnic and national mix.

  3. Damn straight it is. They lie about inflation figures. Inflation is said to be 3% when its more like 10 or 11%. So by lying about the inflation figures this gives them faux-productivity growth, and pseudo-economic growth. The reality is that the US economy has been slowly falling in its real output ever since Henry Paulson showed up.

    All it needs to do is get in surplus, get to 100% backing, bankrupt all its major financial institutions, and chase law-breaking financial executives down to recover bonuses. In that order. Auditing the Feds, the banks, and investigating the doings of all the lawbreakers, will help to bring to an end the TSA, and the rest of this banker-occupation disgrace.

    Only Ron Paul can save this country now. They will kill him for sure, and he knows this. One way or another, the Americans are in deep shit, if they go with the dark side and refuse to back Ron Paul.

  4. HE’S NOT STUPID. I DON’T ASSUME HE COULD ANALYSE THE BUILDINGS FALLING AND THEN WALK AWAY IN SOME SORT OF DREAM WORLD. I DON’T EXPECT HIM TO BE INCAPABLE OF APPLYING SIMPLE PHYSICS.

    • HE’S NO SCIENCE DENIALIST. BUT ANYONE WHO ACCEPTS UNCRITICALLY THE FORM THAT THE CURRENT MAINSTREAM THEORY OF EVOLUTION TAKES REALLY IS A SCIENCE DENIALIST. THEY RESIST IMPROVEMENT, IN THEIR OWN VERY GOOD THEORY, OUT OF SHEER BLOODYMINDEDNESS. THEY HAD TO COME KICKING AND SCREAMING INTO THE REALISATION OF EPI-GENETICS, AND THEY STILL WON’T EQUATE THAT SIMPLE IMPROVEMENT TO THEIR THEORY AS A BRAND OF LAMARKIANISM. THE MAINSTREAM IS REALLY QUITE HOPELESS, EVEN THOUGH THE THRUST OF THEIR THEORY HAS TO BE BROADLY CORRECT.


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