Posted by: graemebird | February 16, 2015

Investing In Yellow Submarines/ Paradoxical And Holistic Thinking In Defence.

From Elsewhere;

 

So…just the right time to spend billions on a motley collection of diesel boats. Maybe they should paint them bright yellow for all the stealth they could provide. If even nukes are vulnerable, what chance a diesel?”

Priorities can change, but we still have to mark each part of the 3 dimensional grid. Strategy, more broadly speaking, can be counter-intuitive. Suppose the opposing big shot in a water polo game recognises you as a key swimmer, but does not know you are hopeless at polo. You dart back and forth taking him out of the game. That can make you in the top three most useful players for awhile.

A diesel fleet could be handy in nuclear development, because you may need a diesel to ferry staff back and forth to where such research could be kept under wraps. Hercules airplanes and trucks of all sorts are detectable but still part of the picture.  Its not enough to detect something.  You still have to come and get it.

Not enough thought has gone into subs for logistics.  Evading surface tension, they can be made faster and more efficient for cargo, then a container ship. Detachable midsections of any amount can be added barely affecting total drag.

Strategy is odd. I favour investment in hydrogen dirigibles as well.  Hydrogen dirigibles in a dust up? The mind is repelled by the seeming stupidity of the idea. The fattest, most visible, most vulnerable and softest target imaginable. You could paint them bright yellow as suggested;  SPECIFICALLY to sweeten them up. All the better to lure the dog fighter into that honeypot. Nothing is good or bad but that overall thinking makes it so. In Thunderdome the tables were turned by a tin whistle. It is the combined elements that count. And not how we would view the individual parts.

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  1. “So…just the right time to spend billions on a motley collection of diesel boats. Maybe they should paint them bright yellow for all the stealth they could provide. If even nukes are vulnerable, what chance a diesel?”

    Priorities can change, but we still have to mark each part of the 3 dimensional grid. Strategy, more broadly speaking, can be counter-intuitive. Suppose the opposing big shot in a water polo game recognises you as a key swimmer, but does not know you are hopeless at polo. You dart back and forth taking him out of the game. That can make you in the top three most useful players for awhile.

    A diesel fleet could be useful in nuclear development, because you may need a diesel to where such research could be kept under wraps. Hercules airplanes and trucks of all sorts are detectable but still part of the picture. Not enough thought has gone into subs for logistics and cargo. Evading surface tension, they can be made faster and more efficient for cargo, then a container ship. Detachable midsections of any amount can be added barely affecting total drag.

    Strategy is odd. I favour investment in hydrogen dirigibles as we’ll. hydrogen dirigibles in a dust up? The mind is repelled by the seeming stupidity of the idea. The fatest, softest target imaginable. You could paint them bright yellow as suggested specifically to sweeten them up. All the better to lure the dog fighter into that honeypot. Nothing is good or bad but that overall thinking makes it so. In Thunderdome the tables were turned by a tin whistle. It is the combined elements that count. And not how we would view the individual parts.

  2. The Hebrews have had it in for Hydrogen Dirigibles ever since the Hindenburg. Dirty Jew Bastards.

    • Bruce on Catallaxy is claiming that the Hyksos were Palestinians who raped Egypt. Unbelievable. These Jews first say that Palestinians don’t exist. Then they blame them for their crimes.

      Actually I can make no strong claim either way on the Hyksos matter. But I found it amazing that Bruce was so adamant that he had nailed this Hyksos matter down.

  3. Indeed they did. That is why the Hindenburg murders had to be staged on live radio and with the motion picture cameras running. They went so far as to paint the zeppelin with flammable paint. They robbed us of cheap and infrastructure free cargo transport. It stings. There would have been no way to enslave all of us if we were cut off without roads, and traded only by ocean and dirigibles.

  4. The Hindenburg disaster was staged? Not actually surprised that you would believe an insane claim like that.

    • OK, now I am convinced he is just taking the piss out of us …

      • The trompe industry was destroyed at the same time with malice.

      • I know it seems unbelievable that a grown man could believe the stuff that Bird does, but yes, Bird is the real deal. Bird has been banned from just about every forum or blog that he has managed to post his nonsense on. No one takes him seriously, he is just a complete and utter fuckwit. Go here for more hilarity. https://graemebirdforum.wordpress.com

      • No no. The Trompe industry indeed was destroyed with malice around 1935.

    • Flammable paint doesn’t get all over a blimp by mere oversight. A fire doesn’t appear accidentally just for the sake of media attention.

      • Dirty Jew Bastards

      • Another nuclear weapon used. This time in the Ukraine. Total news blackout. Jews setting up a second homeland.

  5. Surely a bunch of us White Men can get together and build a Hydrogen Dirigible to supply to the Good Guys in Ukraine and level things up against the Hebrews?

    • That would be nice. But if the white men talked about it all their friends who want to stay employed will denounce him.

  6. Peta Credlin must be a Jew if she has convinced PM Abbott to build Jap Submarines instead of Hydrogen Dirigibles and Liquefied Coal Powered Satellites with Fucking Huge Lasers to zap the Chinks, Muzzers and other Hebrews.

    • I apologise for the Bad Language Mr B but sometimes the Hebrews get me very angry.

      • I like it that we are working with the Japs that is a very good sign.

    • Ha ha. We need the subs as well. We need to target Israel and banking dynasts so we need all sorts of gear.

      • Good point Mr B. Hebrews don’t perform well in water so we should use that to our Advantage.

      • Yes they fear the water like rabid dogs, most of them. Unfortunately you can always find enough of them that don’t to fill a sub. Their main talent however is not to fight. But rather to get other people fighting so they can steal.

  7. Sydney false flag.

  8. So its a lie. Unbelievable that their reach has gotten this far south.

  9. Look at these idiots. Lindt cafe right across the street from Channel 7. Shame on the Jew Koche.

  10. Just to show that the Jews at Catallaxy cannot be reached by Reason, take a look at this video. Another example of ISIS fakery. But they are never going to admit that it is Jews and not Muslims behind it.

  11. Powerful effectiveness of the old ways of shooting a bow and arrow;

    • Imagine how many Hebrews we could take out with a few of these fellows orbiting Tel Aviv in an old school Hydrogen Dirigible. The Jews would be Shitting themselves.

      • You could simply design dirigibles that were laser-resistant and flew higher than anything else, and design heat and friction-resistant arrows that automatically trained themselves to fly straight down. I don’t know if you could defeat Israel that way. But you could have a helluva-lot of fun with it.

      • Sometimes ideas like that can never seriously comprise the winning take-down. But supposing your arrows and dirigibles could both be mass-produced very cheaply so you didn’t mind losing a bunch. The arrows cut with laser out of rock so they cost nothing. The dirigibles coming off a massive production line. And the automating equipment able to escape a wounded dirigible only to glide down to another waiting out of the warzone. People are always thinking about the one weapon knock-out punch. But even a weapon purely designed for disruption and harassment can be useful if its production costs can be made low enough.

        Supposing you were cutting obelisks from the rock on the moon. Using robotics and picking up the electrical energy available from the solar wind. Then you also use that electrical energy to accelerate these obelisks on a maglev to

        jews have disabled my keyboard

      • Absolute genius Mr B.

        Cutting Obelisks on the Moon and dropping them on Israel is surely the easiest and cheapest way to teach the Hebrews a lesson.

        Bit concerned though that the Jews might have cornered all of the heavy machinery we need to do proper Lunar Excavation.

      • jews have disabled my keyboard


        I actually laughed at this, Bird. Amazing.

  12. Compare the gentile above with the Jew below. What do we expect from the parasite within the species. Diminished bone structure and nervous system is what we expect from the parasite. In nature and in the human world.

    • I had always wondered what happened in a Synagogue on Saturday Morning. Now I know.

      The Catholics have better music, that’s for sure.

      • there’s a Fungus Among Us

  13. Here is brother Nathaniel. Just like Malcolm he really is our brother.

  14. Bird, here is a video outlining some interesting developments in cancer treatments. Note that the methods proposed actually have some scientific merit, unlike the nonsense “remedies” you’ve promoted, ie consumption of mild bleach.

    • I know that voice. Thunder foot. Hangs it on feminists now and then. Recently did good work on Potassium explosions.

      • Yes and just like you and me he hates that dumb fat fuck PZ Myers.

  15. Yeah but thats just because he finked on Jew favourite Schermer for being a rapist.

    • No dummy, TF used to write on PZ Myer’s blog network Freethought Blogs. TF didn’t like the social justice and feminism stances that PZ adopted and wrote blog posts critical of it. PZ then accused him of being a mysoginist and threw him off the network. This happened way before the Shermer false allegations.

      • On what basis do you claim the girls lied? Schermer lies for the Jews. So his untouchable status was bound to go to his head.

      • On the basis that it was unsubstantiated hearsay from unreliable sources. Unlike you and that dispshit Myers I don’t swallow conspiracy theories.

        You used to be known as just an angry crazy buffoon, but what brought on all this bigoted hate? What happened to make you like this?

      • What was unreliable about the source? You know this girl? Is it because she is a gentile?

      • Third hand accounts are hearsay. I don’t care what race or religion people are because I’m not a disgusting racist fuckwit like you.

        Now answer my questions.

    • It wasn’t a second hand account to Myers. What do you know about the girl being unreliable?

      • Bird, I read some where that you took advantage of an innocent sheep when you were in New Zealand. Sounded legitimate to me. Prove that you didn’t do it you sick fucker.

      • What is the chain of custody of this information? For example what did the sheep singular and plural have to say about it?

  16. No you are a dopey wop.

    Be a White Man and show some evidence. Stupid Dago.

  17. van morrison

  18. Any of you who are mourning the death of Bill Hicks (as I was) let not your heart be troubled. Hicks is still alive. He was paid off and became ALEX JONES.

    • Stupid Dago

  19. Bird,

    You were right all along.

    http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2015-04-06/biggest-secret-history-false-flag-terror

    • Yes but that understates matters. All major terrorist attacks are false flags.

  20. What a load of Tosh Ponzi banker. If all these conspiracies were going on someone would have publicized it all before in the media. Sure a couple of the Nazi ones and Soviet union ones are true but they were in facist/commuinist closed societies without a free press.

    • So you are trying to work this out on the basis of your personal ignorance?

  21. If you keep your eyes closed Science-Worker it doesn’t really happen. Unless its you getting the government bullet in the head.

    • Woppy woppy woppy wop.

  22. The Godfather. Respect where respect is due.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zKyoGDgcKEs

  23. The Godfather; give me back my pen.

  24. The Godfather; Why did you go to the police? Why didn’t you come to me first?

  25. Turns out NASA is still into the fleecing game where they have make-believe missions. While the orbiting satellite data appears to be good but with many features hidden after the fact, the Mars rover pictures are a lie. They appear to be taken from uninhabited islands in the far north of Canada. A lot of these people need to be arrested and all their data siezed. But this won’t happen unless there is some sort of private army able to beat back the dynasts direct forces.

    • The world’s most powerful man could not keep it quiet when an intern blew him off in the White house with no other witnesses present.
      And yet an entire organisation with god knows how many scientists, engineers and other highly intelligent people working there can construct a massively elaborate hoax that no-one but you and a few others have somehow uncovered.
      Yep, sounds legit.

      • Thats what I used to think. But the oligarch-controlled media was on board with that particular one. Monica was a Jew Honey-trap. Israel was angry with Clinton. If this were not the case the media would have simply covered up the sting.

    • So Clinton is one of the good guys?

      What is the purpose of faking the Mars Rover? So NASA can fleece the American populations why would the government allow it. This would be pretty easy to work out. Why are the Canadians in on it too letting them film in Islands in Nth Canada? Are you sure its not in the Outback somewhere sure looks a lot more like the outback that Nth Canada.

      • The government is controlled by the fleecers. But the worse scandal is hiding electro-gravitics. The lesser scandal of stealing from the taxpayer serves to hide the greater scandal of stealing our technology.

        There are no arctic lemmings in the outback. The islands have been used as a test for the Mars landings on an official basis. They just take the tests live when the pseudo-Mars operation is in place.

      • Show me the Mars Rover photos with Arctic lemmings in them.

      • Also please tell me about electro-gravitics. Why are the government hiding them when they could be unleashing them upon us to control us.

      • Use your brain or just type some words into google Science worker,
        http://www.space.com/21455-mars-rat-curiosity-rover-drive.html

        Of course they are claiming its just a rock and shadow etc, but we know the truth, covered up just like the face.

      • Search for it yourself. You have the same database as me.

  26. You are a moron Science-worker and clearly a stooge for some government (or crypto-government) agency. Take it from someone who knows how to fleece the population, its easy enough to do and that is a goal in itself. All politicians are either organizing it, corrupt enough to ignore anything, or too stupid to notice. Usually at least two of those.

    The minor parties are no better by the way pretty much all of them are just front organizations designed to keep up the appearance of true democracy, and even those who aren’t in the start end up as one.

    The Liberal Democrats in Australia are a good example, they once had honest candidates like our friend Bird, but sensing the threat to the establishment if honest crusaders got elected they managed to manipulate the electoral system to get Leyonhjelm elected who is trying to destroy the party by going hard on pro guns and gay rights at the same time knowing it will split any support he might get and destroy the party long term.

    David Oldfield did the same to one nation.These people are stooges of the crypto-government sent out to destroy and true grassroots movement.

    • Crypto-government are you taking the piss Ponzi? I how nutty are you there is a secret government behind the government and I suppose this body gives orders to the government of the day. Why on earth do we get the changes of government and policy then? IF there is one crypto-government why do we keep switching ruling parties. Surely they can just keep the one mob in power.

      • Science-worker your arguments are all very transparent and as Graeme said up thread your argument boils down to “I’m ignorant so it can’t be true”. The Westminster system is a charade of moving shape and colour to keep the populous’s mind on that while the real action is going on elsewhere. It’s the classic magicians trick on the level of government. You’ve got to look where the magician doesn’t want you to look, to see the trick. If there was no change in policy someone would notice that and look elsewhere, but the brain dead journalists a fooled by a little colour an movement and focus solely on the political “contest” not the true story.

        The crypto-government is real and we know they exist. Occasionally they get somewhat publically uncovered so they move to a meta-level the structure of which is already in place. Once the ALP got its order directly from the faceless men. Now that is so well uncovered they leave the faceless men in place but move the government to the meta-layer. The faceless men get their orders from the real power, and they pass it on. The liberals have something similar in Peta Credlin and the party structure, who report to the crypto-government. No one except the highest levels of the meta-crypto-government structure know how many layers of crypto-government there are, but we can envisage that it is at least 1-2 more than are visible even to the most astute observer. At some level there is the world wide uber-crypto-government, who guides all the national level governments (cf Davos etc), but there must be a meta-uber-crypto-government to be in place incase this level of organization gets too uncovered.

      • Don’t waste your time Science-Worker, the trolls here are relentless in their promotion of every idiotic conspiracy theory you could mention.

      • The crypto-government relies on people like fullfillment to calm the other sheep as they march in the abattoir door.

        He’s probably not even aware of his role in the machine.

      • What’s your role in “the machine” Ponzi? Are you the guy who shoots the sheep in the head?

      • Its pretty simple, SW. I am neither the sheep nor the shooter, nor the factory boss. I am the rat who lives in the abattoir drinking the blood which sluices through the gates. Feeding off the waste and inefficiency of the system. I am tolerated by the bosses and it even seems they are feeding me richly but it is not intentional just fortuitous for me and my own. They do not like me but its not worth their while to chase away.

        From the killing floor, I see all. The carnage and the sleepwalking sheep marching willingly to their masters beat. The master stays hidden the workers do his dirty work and toil in the stench of death. The sheep even deny there is a master, but I see. I see all.

      • Poetic Ponzi.

        Insane, but poetic.

      • For the moment you are grazing in the fields comfortable in the knowledge the nice farmer is looking after you as you follow the other sheep into the pen each night. But one day a truck will come down the lane and you’ll be loaded in, and the farmer will smile his same contented smile and you’ll calmly tell your friends all is ok he always has given us food and medicine in the past so he must be trust worthy.
        You’ll say it as you walk up the ramp into the building that smells funny but you’ll ignore it safe in the knowledge that you’ve never seen anyone harm a sheep. Then you will round the corner and up ahead you’ll see it for a brief instant the bodies hanging, bleeding out and it that one horrible instant you’ll realise GRAEME BIRD AND PONZI-BANKER WERE RIGHT AFTER ALL!, before you too get stunned and hang bleeding on a hook.

  27. “meta-uber-crypto-government ” ….. I mean seriously? Seriously you believe in that?

    • The language is tortured, but the description is accurate. Make an argument to refute not just mock the words, or are you nothing more than just a science-worker.

      I’m not one of the “good guys” by the way. I’m not trying to overthrow it. I do very well under this structure and I am happy for it to be maintained. Still no reason to shut your eyes to the fact it exists.

  28. The bastards have tried to assassinate Jeff Rense.

  29. That is going to happen if you try to expose the truth, I imagine he’s been pretty much up the crypto-government’s nose for a while now.

    Do think it was CIA or Mossad? Who did they try to frame?

    • Mossad would probably be the go-to outfit for miscellaneous evil. Since you run the risk of a righteous man picking up on things if you get CIA or FBI doing things.

  30. “Jim Fetzer reported in the interview below that Jeff Rense was hit by some type of psychotronic weapon that made him lose consciousness. His car went into a five foot ditch and rolled over several times! He was put into intensive care at the hospital with several broken bones. He was told later that the crash was unsurvivable but because of a stunning number of coincidences he did survive! ”

    Must of been the same “psychotronic” weapon they used on my Dad, The police had the temerity to suggest he fell asleep at the wheel just because it was 3am and he only slept 3 hours the previous night but we know the truth eh?

    • Right. Almost definitely this is what happened. He drives a big vehicle for protection and he was damn fortunate that he was only travelling at a moderate pace when they attacked him.

  31. Oh yeah some guy nearly getting whacked for speaking his mind and pursuing the truth is a big joke Science-Worker. No sheep has ever been killed for speaking out so no danger on that front for you. Don’t think that will stop the machine harvesting you when the need comes for some fresh meat..

  32. Its a bit embarrassing and and shocking to go back to threads in 2006 to see how badly the Jews had me fooled. I was just gunning for all these regimes on the basis that I had been sold the idea that these Muslim regimes were all responsible for terrorism. Not good to see ones own writing. But I won’t wipe the threads. Also all these bad scientific ideas I had been bullshitted about. Like plate tectonics. I suppose if I did not have it in writing I would think that I never had bought this stuff.

  33. Have you ever considered how your past self may view your current self. I think it would be totally embarrassed by the vicious anti-semitism.

    Perhaps the Muslims have you fooled now. Perhaps the christians have you fooled. Perhaps you just are a fool.

    • “Have you ever considered how your past self may view your current self. I think it would be totally embarrassed by the vicious anti-semitism.”

      My recent past self would indeed be mortified by my current anti-semitism. You are quite correct. But my anti-semitism is not vicious. Its based on kindness. What turned out to be vicious was Jewish emancipation. It lead directly to most of the 200 million or so murders since 1913.

  34. I think you are scape-goating, and a future self may also be ashamed of this phase. Even if I was to accept your claim would it have been different without jewish emancipation. Would you then be blaming some other group for all the wrongs of the last 100 years?

    • Mr B

      Don’t let these Hebrews make you second guess yourself.

      Your Judgment is exceptionally Sound and you are truly thinking like a White Man.

      Of course the Hebrews will try to bring you down.

    • No its not me scapegoating. It is you either ignorant or in denial. Some so-called myths are true. For example you would have to believe in time travel not to realise that the protocols of the elders of zion is an authentic blueprint for the behaviour of the elites. Its not possible to have that predictive precision.

      I shouldn’t have to fucking write disclaimers about this or that good Jew every fucking second sentence. But you are clearly in denial if you are denying that there is something problematic about the Jewish community taken as an whole.

      They are not free from the stigma of carrying the holocaust lie. They are not free from responsibility for the communist carrion factory. They cannot get out from the responsibility of demonising the Germans then and the Muslims now. They cannot claim that they aren’t the masters of false flag terrorist attacks which is blatant Jewish blood sacrifice.

      • I came here thinking there may be some help for you, some compassion in your heart. Someone who wanted to seek truth but was just a little off kilter. It seems though you have only hate in your heart.

        Goodbye.


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