This time with some attempts at plausible deniability. But I noticed pretty early on the setup. I got a warning. Apparently for flaming some fool who was on a filibuster. Right from the start the communists made it clear that there would be no further warnings. So it was a setup since Tuba and others have been on and off there for years. Always suspended, never banned. Its the return of the Gimp.
And my behaviour was entirely predictable. If some asshole was lying or filibusting about important matters, I’d be on his case and not let him get away with it. And for that one gets banned but the liar and the filibusterer will stay there intact disrupting the forum and making intelligent analysis (which a forum lends itself to by the way) impossible.
A new renaissance really isn’t on the cards unless we can put a heavy social price on intellectual dishonesty. This time the Golden-Calf Worshippers and lovers of the homosexual Obama…. had assistance from alleged lying lawyer cunt Vegas cunt cunt something or other. What a cunt this fellow is. He claimed, in a lie made up entirely from his own head, that the molten metal in the basements of the three fallen buildings was melted aluminium alloy from the planes. What shit!!!!!! The authorities denied the existence of the molten metal in the basements. They did not test it. And now this cunt shows up and claims he knows what alloy it is????
He’s pushing the taxeater line but at the same time this cunt reckons he knows what the molten metal is an is not. NEVER TAKE SHIT FROM A LAWYER ON THE INTERNET. Since its hard to pay out on these cunts in public, never miss a chance to abuse them on the net.
What a fuckwit? and how on earth would aluminium alloy get down there in the first place? The most ridiculous idea imaginable. Particularly as aluminium alloy is SILVER and does not glow orange at the temperatures surmised.
The fact is that this lying cunt made it all up. And that appears to be OK just so long as you are a leftist, in favour of the Dr Moriati approach to terrorist conspiracy, or if you are a Usurper-Supporter.
What a bunch of cunts those leftist moderators are. What an embarrassment.
A Better World: Graeme Bird For High Office 
IDIOT. ALUMINIUM IS REALLY LIGHT. ALUMINIUM ALLOY IS LIGHT. AND IF IT WAS ONLY 600 CELSIUS AS THE CLAIM GOES IT WOULD COOL AND SOLIDIFY BEFORE GOING TO THE BASEMENT.
CONTRAST THIS TO MOLTEN STEEL THAT THE THERMATE CAN MELT AT UP TO 4500 CELSIUS. BUT DEFINTELY ABOVE 2500CELSIUS. AND SO ALL THIS MOLTEN STEEL CAN JUST RUN LIKE LAVA. LIKE HOW THE WORKERS WITNESSED IT. AND FIND ITS WAY DOWN TO THE BOTTOM ONLY HAVING SHED A FEW HUNDRED DEGREES CELSIUS. SO IT CAN STILL BE HOT 21 DAYS LATER.
By: Shrieking wombat on May 14, 2009
at 6:48 am
HOW ABOUT EXPLAINING THE MOLTEN METAL IN ALL THREE BASEMENTS FELLA.
By: Shrieking wombat on May 14, 2009
at 8:12 am
WHAT WAS BURNING IN THE BASEMENT?
THE OFFICIAL REPORTS CAN SAY ANYTHING THING THEY WANT. THEY CAN SAY ANYTHING AT ALL. THEY CAN SAY ALL MANNER OF THINGS. THEY MAY CHANGE PEOPLES MINDS. BUT WHAT THEY CANNOT DO IT CHANGE WHAT REALLY HAPPENED.
THE OFFICIAL REPORTS CAN SAY IT WAS ALL GREEN CHEESE IN THE BASEMENTS. BUT THE PEOPLE WHO WERE THERE SAY IT WAS MOLTEN STEEL. THE OFFICIAL REPORTS CANNOT CHANGE THE FACT THAT THE INDUSTRIAL WORKERS THERE SAW THE MOLTEN STEEL. NOR COULD THE OFFICIAL REPORTS MAKE THE MOLTEN STEEL GO AWAY RESTROSPECTIVELY AS IF THE OFFICIAL REPORT WRITERS HAD A TIME MACHINE AND COULD GO BACK AND REMOVE IT.
WHO GIVES A FUCK WHAT THE OFFICIAL REPORT SEZ?
DO YOU NOT UNDERSTAND THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN EVIDENCE AND TAXEATER SENTIMENT?????
YOU ARE A FUCKWIT. YOU DON’T EVEN KNOW WHO WROTE THE OFFICIAL REPORT. YOU HAVE NO ACCESS TO THE BASIS UPON WHICH THE OFFICIAL REPORT WAS WRITTEN.
BUT THE PEOPLE WHO WERE THERE SAW THE MOLTEN STEEL AND THEY TOLD PEOPLE ABOUT IT AND CAMERAMEN CAME IN AND RECORDED THEM WORKING UNDER JUST THESE CONDITIONS.
IT MUST BE UNDERSTOOD THAT THE LAST TAXEATER TO EDIT ANY DOCUMENT IS NOT A WARLOCK, A DEMIGOD OR A GOD AT ALL. IN FACT HE’S LIKELY TO BE PRETTY FUCKING USELESS. SO HOW IS IT THAT YOU PLACE SO MUCH PRESUMPTION OF POWER TO ALTER HISTORY AND REALITY IN HIS HANDS?
THIS IS A BIZARRE SUPERSTITIOUS VIEW OF THE WORLD. HE’S JUST A STUPID FUCKING TAXEATER WHO EVER HE IS. AND ALL HE IS DOING IS MUCKING ABOUT ON THE BLUDGE.
By: Shrieking wombat on May 15, 2009
at 12:15 am
WHAT DO YOU KNOW ABOUT BARIUM NITRATE? HAVE YOU BEEN LISTENING TO THE PSEUDO-DEBUNKINGS AND HAVE YOU THEREFORE GOT YOURSELF FATALLY CONFUSED YOU FUCKING DUMMY?
YOU DON’T HAVE A POINT. I’VE HEARD IT ALL BEFORE. THERMITE AND THERMATE ARE NOT ALL ONE THING BUT TWO NAMES FOR A RANGE OF MIXTURES.
By: Shrieking wombat on May 15, 2009
at 4:02 am
Mr Bird
There is hope yet for the United States. Look at this list of righteous performing artists and sportsmen
http://wcbstv.com/slideshows/Conservative.Celebrities.20.824701.html
By: Winchester Quartermain on May 14, 2009
at 8:37 am
Mr Wombat
Mr Bird may well be the most intelligent and insightful public intellectual in Australasia today. You have no right to address him in such terms.
By: Winchester Quartermain on May 14, 2009
at 8:40 am
You put me on a bit of a chain of thought with those artists Winchester.
They appear to to in the upper quintile of talent for the most part, but seldom the best of the best. Look at Arnold when he actually became Governor though. A bit of a letdown. You have to have a strategy right up front not to be pulled down the road of compromise in dribs and drabs. I call the strategy “mass-sackings”.
So if Peter makes a comeback, and I must say bighead has picked his act up in the last few weeks, but if Peter, a man of authentic talent, makes a comeback he has to know as a good Christian, that to do any good he cannot go down the path he went down last time.
Costello has to take ten steps back from where he last found himself having to spend up large to triangulate against the guild-of-thieves party. He’s got to figure out how he got to go down that road and make sure that he doesn’t find himself going down that road again. Which is surely a road against any just Gods law.
He’s got to put that all behind him like and draw a clear line between the before and after in time like Matty Johns distancing himself from his former pimp-artistry.
And I can help him in what may hopefully be a yearning to become a FORMER thief.
And I say the answer is TAX EXEMPTIONS AND MASS-SACKINGS.
Let the community fight through the media as to who gets to be first in line for TAX EXEMPTIONS RATHER THAN SPENDING PROGRAMS.
Lets have the electorate rip itself apart on the that basis since the more they attempt to shred, fight, and protest, the more they will bring us together as independent traders and unknown friends.
By: Graeme Bird on May 14, 2009
at 10:59 pm
The strategy is mass-sackings because you start as you mean to go on lest you get stuck in a mode of doing-things that isn’t going to work for you.
So right up you sack a bunch of people. Then that gets a backlash and you sack the backlash. Then that gets a protest and you employ detectives to track down the protestors and you sack them also. And then you sack their friends. And their boss. And their subordinates. And then somebody bleats about “have you lost all human feeling…. in the end have you lost all human decency” in a pathetic attempt to reprise that asshole lawyer who ran that pantomime against McCarthy, just for the TV camera………
Well when the taxeater tries that on you sack him, and you sack all his friends after a thorough investigation, and you sack everyone in his family up to third cousin status. That way everyone he knows fucking hates him.
And once you look up from your good works what do you know?
The country is no longer in budget or trade deficit, and no longer dominated by those fucking Prodeo Latte-drinkers.
By: Graeme Bird on May 14, 2009
at 11:04 pm
Mr Bird
I have noticed that the male thespaisn on that list are ones that even I, a staunch opponent of the general decadence of Hollywood, would approve of, for they are the golden few who have chosen to continue portraying the manly virtues e.g. fine bastions of manhood and honour like Clint Eastwood, Bruce Willis and Dennis Hopper.
By: Winchester Quartermain on May 14, 2009
at 11:46 pm
Well exactly. Dennis Hopper. What we are dealing with there is unfulfilled genius. Its a sort of Billy Budd genius in a way. Like as a kid he appeared to be better looking then most of the other actors, he could act better than most of the other actors and he had gifts as a writer and director as well. Its amazing he didn’t do even better than what he did do.
Eastwood is a fine example isn’t he. We are looking at almost a half century of sterling entertainment with this fellow. One of the few amongst them who has fulfilled his talents. Because of his outstanding judgment when it came to reading other peoples scripts. Contrast that to Stallone who is a really talented fellow. But who lacked anything approaching Eastwoods judgment. You see moments of brilliance with Stallone, all over the place in his career. Rocky I and V. The final scene in first blood is just astonishing. I cannot erase if from my mind. And he did pretty good work in the Copland movie too. Rocky VI even believe it or not. A lot of his stuff is really good. If you consider Over The Top a kids movie and understand that its more-of-the-same then you can still see him as a quality act with talent but without judgment.
Because there he was, truly quite a brilliant fellow. And then he did that movie Cobra. And no-one sent the script in for rewrite. This is the case with a lot of his stuff. You’ve got a good writer but where is the editor. Where is his brains trust to sort the wheat from the chaff.
Rocky IV really worked though if you saw it with a big crowd. That was really something else as well. In the way it fitted the Zeitgeist of the cold war era where the two characters somehow grew to become embodiments of their countries entire and of the struggle between those two countries. A struggle between those two countries and the meaning of their separate revolutions. A struggle in which Rocky won out. And then his country subsequently.
Here was this eugenicists wet dream. This huge Russian. Looking like a product of the designs and blueprints of Hitler, and symbolising the alleged triumph of scientific socialism. In the same way that the Nazis and the other Socialists wrong-footed every fucker by alledging that their triumph was inevitable…….. here we saw the personification of alleged inevitable socialist triumph in this Russian character, who was made to be like a machine.
There is John Voight in that list. Fantastic actor. His performance can make a movie to such an extent that without it you might well be looking at a dud. Where would the flawed masterpiece “Heat” be without John Voight?
He is not even a real person in that movie. He symbolises a whole underworld network of enabling connections. But he seems to be like the George Smiley of that underworld. Eternally sympathetic. There he is. Warning his fellow criminals against the choices they appear to be making. Asking them to think twice. But when their heart is hardened he is the one providing them with all the resources. With the materiel. With the decisiveness of the third assassin in Macbeth on account of that they can afford to be decisive with the abilities he now brings to them.
Then of course there is Marvin Lee Aday. At the top of his form and he rubs the rock and roll crowd up the wrong way. Thought to be the Godfather of heavy metal, at sixty he carries the gravitas of a godfather. But people get pissed off with his act because they wanted Jimmy Paige and they got a huge version of Michael Crawford doing Phantom of The Opera instead. But this is the blinkered in the rock and roll fraternity. I was the same once. I saw DeNiro in deerhunter and then I went to see him in taxi-driver and I couldn’t for a long time appreciate the cinematic virtues of the film since the main character was a nutball and not a heroic fellow like the character Michael Cimino created for Robert.
And so people get embarrassed and bizarrely angry that this great theatrical talent is singing up a mini-drama when what they really wanted was T-Rex. Well I’m fine with T-Rex. Even gay-looking English Rockers can put about some real power. But whats wrong with bringing theatrics and mini-dramas to rock and roll? People can be so clubby and all that.
Then of course there is the brilliant Alice Cooper. Another fellow that is good at everything. Vincents band was cobbled together from an Arizona (I think) High School track team. James Woods. A fellow who could do anything. Could do all his own stunts when he wanted to. Genius level intelligence. And his abilities quite comparable to Gene Hackman. Which made me wonder why Gene Hackman didn’t make the list.
7 times world Karate Champ Chuck Norris. Chuck got me thinking about another fellow of his era. Another Billy Budd type. Good at everything and better looking then most around him. A fellow not known out of some circles. So talented you’d wonder that hollywood didn’t beg him to become a star.
This fellow Joe Lewis. You look at him in this video Winchester. He is like Odysseus admitting to some crowd that he cannot compete with the younger fellows in the running races. But he is still better than everyone else in the upper body stuff. You look at this guy taking a class. He does a couple of kicks. In this video he must be about 45 or 46. And his kick looks like a normal black-belt half his age. Because you lose that facility with your legs and knees and things. He would still hurt. But it can never be the same as Bruce Lee, Superfoot Wallace or indeed Joe Lewis in his heyday with the footspeed.
But then watch the lecture towards the end. There you see why this fellow, though average height in comparison with the people in the room, is absolutely lethal in his fighting abilities. In his era probably the most lethal unarmed combat practitioner there was. One time he got voted second to Nasty Anderson.
You only see it towards the end. But don’t skip ahead of his coaching seminar out-take. Like this guy must be about mid-60’s but he’d still be able to beat up anyone not a combat artist in training.
I got to thinking about Joe again simply because I was trying to figure out the very short handful of people that could have beaten up Chuck Norris at his best.
I won’t tell you how this fight of Joe Lewis’ turns out. This is when he’s about 38 or 39 or so. But when I first saw it I was reflecting how different it would have been on the street. Because you see this Melvin Cole looks like a very good fighter. And no doubt his kicks are faster. He’s a lot younger. He’s got better reach. And I won’t tell you if he manages to knock Joe Lewis out. But when I first reflected on this fight, it occurred to me that if they just took their gloves off. Took a ten minute break. And they were ordered to fight unto the takedown or the knock-out then Lewis would front back up and have this kid knocked out or imobilized within 10 seconds, maybe 15.
Interesting to see how it turns out in any case despite the presumed difference on the street.
These kick-boxing or so-called full-contact-Karate fights wind up looking like straight boxing fights if they go a long way and start evening up. The reason for that is it takes so much more calories, ergs, joules to throw a kick. So when these guys get exhausted it becomes like a boxing match.
I really really dig Joe Lewis’ boxing style. Because it reminds me of Roberto Duran (I first saw Duran fighting Palomino then Sugar Ray, but after finding out he was already 10 years past his prime I used to try and get hold of the old fights on video) and also of that fight where Marciano beat Joe Louis. That methological two-fisted assasination. Totally different from these Karate points fights. Which are towards the fencing spectrum.
Actually when I come to think of it Tyson had a similiar style while Cus D’amato was still alive but souped up with incredible power. Its hard to make a comparison. But if you get out the Marciano video you will likely see a certain similarity there.
Here’s another flawed masterpiece since the orginal script had Rocky winning the street-fight but dying in the end because of accumulated damage going years back. And the entire script was perfectly balanced for this denouement. So keeping him alive put the rest of the story out of balance. The editing at the time struck me as quite groundbreaking. For all I know the kids would think it was old hat.
But then this post would be unbalanced without the best boxing sage ever filmed.
By: graemebird on May 15, 2009
at 12:49 am
Great title of a new Sinclair Davidson thread. He gropes does Sinclair. He gropes at reality. But he never actually turns around and admits that I was right and he was wrong.
By: graemebird on May 15, 2009
at 2:35 am
Somebody sez”
“…go and read about Andrew Carnegie and his understanding of how the capitalist system progresses.”
So Cambria sez:
“I actually don’t give a shit what Carnegie thought. I am more than a little surprised at the warped ideas successful business people have at times.”
So I sez:
Well that would be fine Cambria, if we never knew that you were a filthy five-dollar-whore when it comes to the values of liberty. Welfare Queen. You are small potatoes Cambria. Small potatoes.
Repent. Admit your wrong-doing.
It would be nice to think you were serious when you said stuff like that. But you are not serious.
By: graemebird on May 15, 2009
at 2:40 am
Bird, you goose
Did I ever say I was a big potato… even hint at it, you fat fuck.
The point I’m making is an easy one. Rich people also have bad ideas and sometimes I’m surprised they so bad.
Now apologize and show us that you have the knackers to admit you’re wrong.
I reckon they’re so small, you couldn’t reproduce.
By: Deltoid Dwarf on May 15, 2009
at 3:48 am
Well my point is that you made a good point. But my point is how can we take you seriously when you make good points today, when we know you to be an unrepentant triangulator, a fairweather friend, a bit of a welfare queen when it comes down to it, and not someone with a commitment to the scientific process.
I don’t know what has gone wrong with you. Repent and apologise. I wasn’t criticising the very good point that you made. I’m just saying you are no longer making these very good points from the solid ground of a righteous foundation.
Build ye not your righteous criticisms on a foundation of sand. Verily it is written that thou ought build thine house on rock. Thereafter on rock will it stand. And then the mighty and the low-alike will say, as Ivan Drago said of Rocky, “He is not human. He is like a rock”.
Or in other words “Though his critiques be harsh, surely they cannot be said to be unworthy.”
By: graemebird on May 15, 2009
at 4:03 am