Modified from elsewhere:

Great work you are doing. I’ve been putting in a lot of thought in to how superior capital allocation would be, in practice, if it were a fees-only arrangement and compound interest were banned.

With both Usury and fractional reserve the bankers get lazy. Unless you had absolutely perfect policy settings (including “growth-deflation”) and unless your starting point is the best of all competitive situations, without one group of oligarchs controlling the system ….. Well what will happen is the banks will create new money (ie they will pyramid more on the available cash) on the basis of SURE THINGS.
And on top of this there will be interest-rate Apartheid when it comes to these sure things. Punitive rates of interest on small amounts of personal, non-tax-deductible debt will sit besides the lowest rates of interest on the sure thing of Bain capital trashing a manufacturing outfit and sending most of the jobs overseas.

This is entirely different from the assumptions of the Austrian-British Classical integration. I mention these two schools because; though they are one-eyed with regards with the concerns of you and I, they are the only two rational schools of economic thought. But like the neo-classicals; these two schools blandly assume that the banks will lend for capital creation, and allocate resources to the very best areas on that basis. I want to make the argument, as paradoxical as it may seem, that excellence in capital allocation will only come when compound interest is banned and when the rate of payback is, for the most part, voluntary.
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Well we know what the banks lend for right? They lend for debt-peonage, land value inflation, for firms that have achieved some form of monopoly ….. they will lend with their best interest rate, which will be a subsidy given inflation and at the right time of the cycle …. they will lend for sure things.

Personal debt that is non-tax deductible they will lend up to a certain limit and at exploitive interest rates. This may even be to the advantage of a minority of those who get sucked into this. But since this lending destroys rather then creates wealth …….. it would be right to outlaw it, and design social welfare partly around compensating for this reduction in liberty. Because on a society-wide level, lending for consumption is a massively negative-sum game.

So if we outlawed lending at interest for consumption, and had welfare such that no-one really got in the worst of trouble …. this done properly could be a net gain. We ought to outlaw lending (at interest or with high fees) for take-overs, for buying land (in most cases), for buying derivatives including shares …… And so forth until we have all loanable funds going for wealth-creation.

Now how about a world without compound interest? Done well this could be absolutely superior. Because in general, wealth-creating loans are loans that increase the cash-flow of the borrower NET OF REPAYMENTS TO THAT SAME LOAN.

So if the banker makes a loan and the persons cash-flow massively increases (net of repayments) its because he has bought some sort of capital goods which have reduced his costs or increased his revenues. But if he borrows to buy land in the hope of land appreciation …. If companies borrow for takeovers, or to buy shares (except those shares where high dividends are assured) or derivatives, or all sorts of Jive …………. then these are wealth-destroying loans because they either divert loanable funds away from wealth-creation, or they pump up the interest (or competitive fees) on the remaining loans.

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Now supposing if compound interest were banned, fees were allowable in many cases, and the borrower could fundamentally pay back at a rate of his choosing (within reason). Like payback was more or less voluntary over 5% of ones net income? Or something of this sort. Or perhaps even if payback were ENTIRELY voluntary mandating that the loan was made only to gain on another loan (here I go too far but I’m trying to emphasise a point.)

This would ensure excellence in resources allocation. Because think about it? The financier can only get a good rate of return if he is paid back quickly. This is the big point and I’m sure you’ll grasp it. He’s got to get paid back quickly. But if the borrower isn’t legally required to pay him back quickly then what is the incentive to the borrower?

Its to get another loan on good terms.

And so the lender MUST make wealth-creation loans, in order to get fast-payback, such that he makes a high notional interest rate, and then he must send more resources to the fellow who has used societies funds wisely and chosen to forego consumption and pay back quickly.

So its a real paradox. Because you would think that excellence in resource allocation would go hand in hand with a competitive interest rate. But this isn’t the case. As I think I have successfully explained, resource allocation excellence goes with banning the interest rate and inducing fast payback with the reward of a second loan. Because then fast payback must come as a result of the excellence of both the banker and the borrower allocating the funds to improve cash-flow (net of repayments).

Another point can be made in favour of an egalitarian society. If interest …… (or in this case FEES) are NOT tax deductible ……

Supposing if you have a tax free threshold of 50,000 dollars and 20,000 more for each registered dependent. And suppose taxable income is 50%( here I may be going to far again to make the point). And suppose also that fees and interest are NOT tax deductible.

Where will all these funds go? They’ll go down to the lower levels of society to capitalise those with productive virtue at the lower levels.

So I believe this is a genuine economics paradox. Whereas we think intuitively that the compound interest rate will be matched with excellence in resource allocation, I think it turns out that only perfection in policy would allow this. Whereas a pretty easy to design FEES-ONLY system would almost ensure this excellence.

 

 

Posted by: graemebird | April 19, 2013

Philosophy Revision: CONJURING THE YETI

  • Victor Higgins 54 minutes ago

    I have wondered about this:at the big bang the universe started expanding bringing everything into existence including space-time. so presumably before this even empty space(nothing) did not exist.How can nothing not exist?How can there not be something and not be nothing?Am I missing something?

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    • GMBCATASTROPHE 

      GMBCATASTROPHE 1 second ago

      There was NEVER a big bang and no evidence has surfaced for such an event ever. This is quite apart from the fact that its without exception the most idiotic young-universe creation myth yet invented.

      A proxy cannot for actual measurement cannot be considered evidence unless you have fleshed out and verified at least three such proxies. I can prove the necessity of this principle totally by way of example to anyone who doesn’t loathe logic and reason. So no evidence ever arose for the big bang

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  • ohmandamp 

    ohmandamp 1 hour ago

    So why not apply this in the case of nothing? Take everything in the universe of discourse, which includes our own universe and all possible universes, then define the category of “something”, which is the complement of the category “nothing” (non-something is nothing, non-nothing is something). What we end up with is the category “something” that contains all things, and the category “nothing” that contains no things. And by things, I mean the broadest definition of “thing”, a noun, basically.

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  • ohmandamp 

    ohmandamp 2 hours ago

    You end up with “A” and it’s logical complement, “non-A”, and it is logically impossible for something in A to also be non-A. If some x is A, then x is not, and cannot, be non-A, for the statement “x is A” and “x is not A” (which is equivalent to “x is non-A”) are logical contradictories, and thus it is not logically possible, and thus impossible in any other sense (physically, metaphysically, or temporally), as logical possibility encapsulates all possibilities.

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  • ohmandamp 

    ohmandamp 2 hours ago

    Here’s how:

    1. Define everything that isn’t nothing, that is, non-nothing i.e. something.

    2. Point to what’s left over.

    3. Call it nothing.

    I mean, that’s how logical categories work, and definitions of things are logical categories. It’s just Venn diagrams. Whenever you put a group of things in a category and call the category, let’s say, “A”, you are automatically putting everything else, and I mean EVERYTHING else, in the separate, mutually exclusive and jointly exhaustive category “non-A”.

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    • GMBCATASTROPHE 

      GMBCATASTROPHE 1 second ago

      For us to believe in the Yeti we want to see a huge steaming hot shit in the snow. We want to see all these banana peels left around. And we want to see three immensely satisfied Sherpa chicks staring up at the stars and their clobber denoting a state of ravishment.

      There is only so far you can go with using a hammer before you have to put the hammer down, and pick something else up when you are trying to build something. The deductive hammer ought not be overused in a single sitting.

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    • GMBCATASTROPHE 

      GMBCATASTROPHE 1 second ago

      … Well why do people take this mean-spirited self-serving approach? The reason is that even a baby can think inductively. But only trained philosophers are fluent in the use of this other tool, which on its own isn’t that useful at all. We ought never throw our tools away and I’m glad at least you are using Venn diagrams which are an excellent tool.

      But anyway why do I refer to this sort of talk as “Conjuring The Yeti?” Well what we really want is evidence. For us to believe in the Yeti..

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    • GMBCATASTROPHE 

      GMBCATASTROPHE 1 second ago

      …. at the expense of other tools. So if mean-spirited philosophers who had achieved some admiration for some technical capacity early on wanted to, in a mean-spirited way, become a bigshot in philosophy (David Hume or Karl Popper comes to mind) they would endear themselves to their fellows by writing a treatise putting down other cognitive techniques and over-emphasising deduction. Which lead to the over-emphasis of maths in science. Which lead to the current maths-mysticism….

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    • GMBCATASTROPHE 

      GMBCATASTROPHE 1 second ago

      I think what you are trying to do here is “Conjure The Yeti.” I coined this phrase as a response to St Anselm’s ontological proof of God. We see a lot of the practice of “Conjuring The Abominable Snowman” as a result of a principle that lead to the over-emphasis of bivalent deductive logic in philosophy. It was a sociological tendency of the priesthood to promote the works of those who tended to over-emphasise the tool of bivalent deductive logic at the expense of other tools………

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  • Victor Higgins 

    Victor Higgins 2 hours ago

    Wrong

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  • Victor Higgins 

    Victor Higgins 2 hours ago

    How so?If you can refute,please do or STFU

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  • Viblicent 

    Viblicent 3 hours ago

    Incompleteness is the new question of nothing!

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  • plspirit81 

    plspirit81 3 hours ago

    that doesn’t mean an infinite series of random numbers must contain every possible combination of number, it just means there are infinities of varying density

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  • Viblicent 

    Viblicent 3 hours ago

    Very weak logic.

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  • BeingBadAtMaths 

    BeingBadAtMaths 3 hours ago

    Am I the only one that has the video stop around 55 minutes? Anyone else getting this problem?

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Posted by: graemebird | April 18, 2013

Jew Kids Having Rejected Logos……

….. Sure can be a pain in the ass. Watch the faith-based evidence-free way they attempt to defend the ludicrous and wrong ideas of the carpet-bagger Einstein and his like-minded parasitical science-ruining synagogue-buddies. The key to all of this is the quote I lifted from Hans Hermann Hoppe.  It pays to read that one a number of time. Its an example where there is no Conman-Albert trick of taking a concept from one area and grafting it on where it clearly does not belong. But the Christian bloke is brilliant.  Yes he has some articles of faith. But he has not rejected the Logos. Science, reason, evidence. He hasn’t rejected these things like these Judaized nincompoops. The people who just do not know what it is like to have a healthy scientific community.

 

Here is the rosetta-stone to the whole controversy:

  • GMBCATASTROPHE 21 hours ago

    See how in the statements below there is no Einsteinian hucksterism of trying to steal a feature from one entity and arbitrarily impose it on another!!!!! This feature-stealing is about half the trickery that the zionist had up his sleeve. The rest of the story was relentless Jew-promotion of other Jews and the entire media behind him. They set up a cult of personality and no-one can fight that sort of mental pressure. But below is real REASON whereas Einsteins gear is rubbish.

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  • GMBCATASTROPHE 

    GMBCATASTROPHE 21 hours ago

    “No material thing can be at two places at once. No two objects can occupy the same place. A straight line is the shortest line between two points. No two straight lines can enclose a space. Whatever object is red all over cannot be green (blue, yellow, etc.) all over. Whatever object is colored is also extended. Whatever object has shape has also size. If A is a part of B and B is a part of C, then A is a part of C. 4 = 3 +1. 6 = 2 (33 – 30). “

    Okay now you should read through this a few times

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  • GMBCATASTROPHE 

    GMBCATASTROPHE 21 hours ago

    Lets try again and I will give you an example of a fellow using features of a concept, that are appropriate to that concept. Whereas by comparison we should see that the conman Einstein and the con-artists in contemporary cosmology who follow him are taking a feature that belongs in one concept and simply moving it to another concept and one which is entirely inappropriate. Okay. The next box you will see a quote.

     

  • GMBCATASTROPHE 12 minutes ago

    What is disturbing is that almost no Jews and few young people these days have any real understanding of what evidence is and have even less understanding of what the scientific method consists of. This is what Jewish emancipation has brought us. The domination then destruction of the public understanding of science.

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  • Herman (Dusty) Rhodes 

    Herman (Dusty) Rhodes 13 hours ago

    An engine miss does not mean that it has a bad spark plug. There’s a whole list of other things that could cause the same problem. The universe is a lot more technical than a car. Science has a lot of theories that are not true. The reason I know is because I have studied the Bible and know the answers to a lot of the mysteries of the universe. … However,… Believe what you desire, .. that why we are here to see who will believe God. I will stick with the Bible.

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  • dwkjo 

    dwkjo 8 hours ago

    Could you give me an example of a universally accepted scientific theory or a technology that was derived from Bible text?

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  • eatmylogic 

    eatmylogic 6 hours ago

    QUOTE: “There’s a lot of people that doesn’t accept the Bib Bang theory. Are they crackpots too? “

    Yes, they are. The number of physicists who doen’t accept the Big Bang theory is so small as to be neglible and that should tell you something about the strength of the theory, which has been tested against observations from a number of different fields, all of which are in agreement about the Big Bang. If you don’t know this, you are too ignorant to be making claims about the subject.

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  • GMBCATASTROPHE 

    GMBCATASTROPHE 45 minutes ago

    It doesn’t make any difference. This is just like you dropkicks and science-haters when it comes to the global warming fraud.

    The big bang never happened. And it would not matter if ALL of these charlatans and tax-eaters signed up for it. It didn’t happen and no evidence has ever emerged for it. Not once. Jew science doesn’t even know what evidence is or what it requires to be different from data.

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  • btcminer808a 

    btcminer808a 20 hours ago

    Oh crikey back here again. Higher dimensional spaces are a deliberate postulation. To put it simply, whether they exist or not, they provide an incredibly useful tool for understanding the nature up to a point of applicability. Do you believe the square root of -1 is a useful number for instance? It too is a tool from an abstract higher dim space called the complex plane that, while disputable in existential terms, has yielded insight into every bit of physics, especially waves at all scales.

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  • GMBCATASTROPHE 

    GMBCATASTROPHE 17 hours ago

    They are an absolutely useless postulations. They are of no use except for zionist buddies to rip the public off. What is useful is not lying and reasoning clearly. This will produce results. The scientific method works. Fairy tales don’t work. There is no square root of -1 and this esoteric mathematics may have some uses but not an whole lot. Still if it turns out to be useful in some encryption system or some serendipitous use still it does not represent the universe in any shape or form.

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  • GMBCATASTROPHE 

    GMBCATASTROPHE 17 hours ago

    These people and ideas get in the way of science. They are an active menace.

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  • e102ewan 

    e102ewan 16 hours ago

    The number 0 as well, don’t forget about that.

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  • GMBCATASTROPHE 

    GMBCATASTROPHE 16 hours ago

    That certainly relates directly to reality.

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  • e102ewan 

    e102ewan 16 hours ago

    and negative numbers

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  • GMBCATASTROPHE 

    GMBCATASTROPHE 20 hours ago

    I’m just noticing how brilliantly the chubby kid pulled off the demonstration of the expanding earth with his balloons. Of course the dogmatic potholer could not handle the strength of that demonstration. Prefers dogma over evidence and reason.

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  • e102ewan 

    e102ewan 18 hours ago

    wtf are you talking about… Who would actually believe the Earth is expanding?

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  • michael delaney 

    michael delaney 17 hours ago

    anyone with an IQ Higher then yours

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  • e102ewan 

    e102ewan 17 hours ago

    why?

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  • ginckgo 

    ginckgo 8 hours ago

    *than*

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  • GMBCATASTROPHE 

    GMBCATASTROPHE 17 hours ago

    We know for a fact that it is expanding. And were it not expanding we would have to be surprised since then philosophically we would say “Where the hell did all this matter come from?”

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  • GMBCATASTROPHE 

    GMBCATASTROPHE 20 hours ago

    Notice the tone of this asshat? They are all the same. They all sound exactly like potholer. Dogmatists of unreason.

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  • GMBCATASTROPHE 

    GMBCATASTROPHE 20 hours ago

    You have not a skerrit of evidence for this accusation that some mischief has been happening with time!!!!! In any experiment conducted ever or at any time in the future. The people who conduct these experiments are not fit to even put together such a demonstration. They have to rule out all possible causes for the data they see, and even ones they have not thought of yet.

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  • GMBCATASTROPHE 

    GMBCATASTROPHE 21 hours ago

    See how in the statements below there is no Einsteinian hucksterism of trying to steal a feature from one entity and arbitrarily impose it on another!!!!! This feature-stealing is about half the trickery that the zionist had up his sleeve. The rest of the story was relentless Jew-promotion of other Jews and the entire media behind him. They set up a cult of personality and no-one can fight that sort of mental pressure. But below is real REASON whereas Einsteins gear is rubbish.

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  • GMBCATASTROPHE 

    GMBCATASTROPHE 21 hours ago

    “No material thing can be at two places at once. No two objects can occupy the same place. A straight line is the shortest line between two points. No two straight lines can enclose a space. Whatever object is red all over cannot be green (blue, yellow, etc.) all over. Whatever object is colored is also extended. Whatever object has shape has also size. If A is a part of B and B is a part of C, then A is a part of C. 4 = 3 +1. 6 = 2 (33 – 30). “

    Okay now you should read through this a few times

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  • GMBCATASTROPHE 

    GMBCATASTROPHE 21 hours ago

    Lets try again and I will give you an example of a fellow using features of a concept, that are appropriate to that concept. Whereas by comparison we should see that the conman Einstein and the con-artists in contemporary cosmology who follow him are taking a feature that belongs in one concept and simply moving it to another concept and one which is entirely inappropriate. Okay. The next box you will see a quote.

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  • btcminer808a 

    btcminer808a 1 day ago

    There are some Christians out there with lots of money (despite the Jesus’ advice to give it up) and if you find some new thing in the Bible that tells you how to get fusion working, or colonize other worlds, or do anything really remarkable, be my guest and approach a rich creationist for investment. Scientists will keep on at things, figuring it all out the difficult way. I genuinely offer this challenge. Science is hard and a simple solution from the Bible would be extremely helpful.

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  • GMBCATASTROPHE 

    GMBCATASTROPHE 1 day ago

    What scientists are you talking about? You have to be out of your fucking mind mate. There is no science going on in the subject of cosmology. Science is specifically outlawed by the Jew gate-keepers in cosmology. You didn’t think the big bang was science did you?

    Show me the scientific method operating in mainstream theoretical physics? You’d have to be a madman to imagine this was the case. This hasn’t been the case since around 1913.

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  • btcminer808a 

    btcminer808a 23 hours ago

    Ummm. . . Ok here are some examples, Bell Burnell – she discovered pulsars in 1967. In ’65, the 2.7 K microwave background radiation was discovered. In addition to your point about theoretical physics, in 1968 the Stanford Linear Accelerator discovered the up-quark experimentally, but it was successfully theorized long before. But forget about all that, what have the Jews got to do with this … I’m sort of at a loss as to how they come into it? Please, kindly explain – I’m a bit confused.

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  • GMBCATASTROPHE 

    GMBCATASTROPHE 23 hours ago

    You are an idiot mate. Pulsars aren’t evidence for the big bang. The microwave background isn’t evidence for the big bang (what do you think the stars do all day and all night dropkick) And no they haven’t discovered any quarks. These aren’t discoveries, they are dreams. We have good evidence for the proton, the electron and the neutrino and thats really about it. The neutron appears to be just a proton with one or more electrons somewhere around it. There is no such thing as a photon for eg.

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  • btcminer808a 

    btcminer808a 23 hours ago

    OK, thanks for clearing that one up. I’ll have to quote you on this later on. But never mind that. Please divulge your theory on these so called “Jew gate-keepers” you mentioned earlier. I’m genuinely interested.

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  • GMBCATASTROPHE 

    GMBCATASTROPHE 23 hours ago

    Since the Jewish bankers pulled off the 1913 Federal Reserve heist, their power to be the control freaks that their religion asks of them has been basically unlimited. So they started promoting unscientists and dropkicks like Einstein, who wasn’t engaged in science, but rather just put about idiotic Jew fairy tales. The iron law of these people is that when they get a stupid idea they lock it in as dogma.

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  • btcminer808a 

    btcminer808a 22 hours ago

    Well, you ARE right about the Federal Reserve. Well I guess that just about wraps it up for science then.. we’re all totally screwed by the Rothschilds and the Illuminati. Thanks man for clearing it up. I can only hope you’ll be successful in publicly exposing the whole thing. Good luck – I’m counting on you.

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  • GMBCATASTROPHE 

    GMBCATASTROPHE 22 hours ago

    The Unilluminati I sez. Actually it was the case of Einstein that finally made me feel it is okay to oversimplify and blame the Jews as shorthand. I mean its pretty apparent that Jews are over-represented in our persecutors. But in the past one would say that this was irrelevant and it was fractional reserve and unrestricted usury which was the problem. But the Jew dominated character of the parasites is implied by the Einstein story.

    What happened is that Einstein was a zionist, and ….

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  • GMBCATASTROPHE 

    GMBCATASTROPHE 22 hours ago

    … and he and his friends conspired to make a cult personality of him. They did so to promote zionism, and also to make profits writing books and giving town hall lectures on this idiocy, and they sometimes made out like bandits.

    The Jew leadership makes strategic cult heroes of people. Like Roosevelt and Churchill. Rotten war criminals in sober reality. So we see the same pattern here. They made a cult of Einstein, and it couldn’t have just merely been the unforeseen result of his …..

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  • GMBCATASTROPHE 

    GMBCATASTROPHE 22 hours ago

    ….. It couldn’t have just merely been the unforeseen result of this band of rip-off artists. The entire international media was running protection for him. When his detractors would get the better of him in Germany he’d do a runner to the US in a hail of media adoration. He refused to debate his critics publicly, as was the norm in those days. Read all about it in the Chris Bjerknes book. Free online. The letters these parasites would write to each-other were scandalous.

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  • GMBCATASTROPHE 

    GMBCATASTROPHE 23 hours ago

    But where oh where is your evidence for the big bang. No-one ever claimed that the space between stars had to be zero degrees Kelvin. The big bang propagandists were notorious for being way wrong on their predictions of what that temperature was to be. Plus they cannot measure it, they are jumping to conclusions. We have to get outside our solar system to get a better idea of whether the “background” is just surrounding stars more locally.

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  • btcminer808a 

    btcminer808a 23 hours ago

    Also, I agree to some extent, that the big-bang theory is not as much “science” as I would like it to be. It has good evidence from the Red-shifts observed by hubble, the microwave background, and many measurements. I don’t like a lot of things, like how they say the universe is only 13.8bn years old. But I can only go on the evidence. Also plenty of crackpots & theorists who are just armchair layabouts, speculating. I still want explanation for the “Jew” thing though. So please, make your case.

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  • GMBCATASTROPHE 

    GMBCATASTROPHE 22 hours ago

    It doesn’t have any evidence from Red Shift. They are treating red shift as a proxy for both speed and distance. Their model puts us back in the centre of the universe, despite the idiotic denials of this point.

    Further to this if there was a big bang and we “looked back in time” at it, or into the distance at it, then our galaxy would be somewhere on a bugle, or a cornucopia and we would look backwards not quite seeing the bugle’s mouthpiece. But when we look out (lets say) 12 billion …..

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  • GMBCATASTROPHE 

    GMBCATASTROPHE 22 hours ago

    …. But when we look out (lets say) “12 billion years” (in reality they aren’t nearly that far away) we can do so 360 degrees and in all directions. These people are utter morons. There is no denying this. How could they get something so basic so wrong.

    Red shift is only a proxy. Its a bad and useless proxy, because if you wanted to prove it was okay the procedure is to find at least two more proxies. You have NOTHING (no evidence at all) without three proven proxies.

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  • GMBCATASTROPHE 

    GMBCATASTROPHE 22 hours ago

    There is no question that the process of testing proxies to see if they are valid proxies requires you to get at least two more proxies. If you like I can prove this TOTALLY by way of example.

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  • btcminer808a 

    btcminer808a 1 day ago

    The so called “laws of nature” are macroscopically observed properties. Imagine this. You’re an entity in a basic computer simulation. Eventually you work out your position in the world is discretized, i.e you can’t move continuously from place to place without “jumping” at intervals over a mesh. Now suppose you conclude you’re living in a computer sim. This provides no evidence on how the computer achieves this, but it’s more than enough to apply to helping you get by in your world.

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  • btcminer808a 

    btcminer808a 1 day ago

    My point then, is that simply knowing the laws of nature doesn’t say enough about why we are here. But I really don’t care why. Knowing them in depth and finding more about the behaviours as a side effect of whatever underlying process is driving it all turns out to be enough to make progress… which is why science is great and correctly avoids questions that are unanswerable.

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  • Herman (Dusty) Rhodes 

    Herman (Dusty) Rhodes 1 day ago

    The laws of nature had to be first in order in the universe. Without the laws of physics, nothing could even move. (Movement is a part of physics). The laws of nature are TRUTH, The Bible says that God is Truth. If they are both Truth, then they are are both the same. Every Truth in the universe makes up the perfect mind of God. I wonder why that is so hard to grasp for some people. Thank God I am not one of them.

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  • eatmylogic 

    eatmylogic 1 day ago

    If the earth is “expanding” because of material falling on it from space, the continents would not be getting farther apart as if on the surface of a balloon that was being inflated from within, they would be buried by debris. And where would all that debris come from now that the accretion disc that originally formed the planets has already gone into making them?

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  • Ian Milligan 

    Ian Milligan 2 days ago

    You spoiled it! I was desperate to see Joe’s face when his ‘earth’ exploded.

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  • beliachick 

    beliachick 3 days ago

    lol study the bible to see what science has right. after all the bronze age is the place to start right? they were so smart then

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  • GMBCATASTROPHE 

    GMBCATASTROPHE 3 days ago

    Right. That would seem a strange way to proceed from my point of view as well. But these creationists, after locking a few things in by faith, and heavily biasing a few other matters, they do usually seem to progress from there in reasonable fashion. Even if buying into Hebrew myth. What I find harder to take are those who have bought into modern Khazar myths. They too lock in articles of faith. But the difference is that they actively hate reason logic and the scientific method.

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  • Herman (Dusty) Rhodes 

    Herman (Dusty) Rhodes 3 days ago

    I don’t know if this might interest any one here, but I have a structure that contains all the chemical elements with the same atomic number and the same atomic weight as chemistry teaches. The structure is infinite with a pyramid inside a pyramid inside a pyramid. I’ve had it since 1990 but never really studied it till here lately. I don’t know exactly what it is yet, but I do know that it”s something real and might have something to do with the structure of the universe.(explained on Youtube)

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  • GMBCATASTROPHE 

    GMBCATASTROPHE 3 days ago

    I’ll certainly be interested in taking a look at that. My view is somehow we have to get from random flux, to a form of matter with that helps convert other random flux to matter before we can have the logos, or the ordered universe, or reality as we know it. It is almost as though we need “reproductive matter” for want of a more appropriate phrase. And it would seem intuitively sound that this matter might build inward even as it built outward.

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  • conspiracymedia 

    conspiracymedia 3 days ago

    You think only what you have read.

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  • Herman (Dusty) Rhodes 

    Herman (Dusty) Rhodes 4 days ago

    One thing that no one ever talks about is, the crust of the young earth might not have been 20 miles thick, it could have been a lot thinner. In the young earth model, it covered the iron core because there was no mantle. The asteroid impacts was against a thin crust over a ball of warm iron. Once the crust cracked, then different laws of physics could take over. The rings that made up the mantle were lighter elements than the heavy metal that made up the core. The conditions were different.

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  • ginckgo 

    ginckgo 3 days ago

    And where does the matter come from that grew the mantel? Remember that the mantle is largely composed of minerals containing Oxygen (atomic number 8), Silicon (14), Magnesium (12), as well as Iron (26), Aluminium (13), Calcium (20) and Sodium (11) – not exactly simple atoms like Hydrogen (1). And these elements must be generated at a massive rate to grow the earth to double it’s original radius, and thus 8-fold volume.

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  • GMBCATASTROPHE 

    GMBCATASTROPHE 3 days ago

    Well firstly the mantle would thicken as the planet cooled. Secondarily you would have, under the right circumstance, new matter creation coming in in molten form. We know that this must be the case ongoing or we would be stumped as to what all this matter was doing here.

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  • ginckgo 

    ginckgo 2 days ago

    No, cooling and solidifying would generally make the material denser and not thicken the mantle. There can be phase transitions when one mineral converts to another, and some of these do cause a slight volume increase, but this would decrease the average density of the earth (reducing surface gravity), and nowhere near enough to expand the earth significantly.

    You’re the only one stumped about all this matter, because you start with the assumption that it wasn’t there before.

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  • GMBCATASTROPHE 

    GMBCATASTROPHE 2 days ago

    Look dopey. Obviously, if you start off completely molten, then at first you’ll wind up with a thin solid crust and mantle, and as you cool the solid part of the planet will get thicker, and the molten part will get less substantial.

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  • GMBCATASTROPHE 

    GMBCATASTROPHE 2 days ago

    Obviously the average density of the earth is not necessarily going to decrease with new matter creation going on all the time. And we know that new matter creation must go on all the time or we would wonder how all this matter could have gotten here in the first place.

    Good Lord man you are as thick as two planks. This basic, fundamental philosophical point has been put at you maybe twenty fucking times and you still cannot fucking grasp it

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  • Herman (Dusty) Rhodes 

    Herman (Dusty) Rhodes 1 day ago

    The protoplanetary nebula came from the second generation quasar jets. Matter spewed from one side and antimatter spewed from the other. The antimatter moved away at the speed of light and is still moving. The matter filled our universe in the form of zillions of large clouds that flattened out into flat disks that formed our galaxies. Protoplanetary disks formed inside the giant disks that formed our solar system. The disks of the sun was broken up into rings for every planet.

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  • Herman (Dusty) Rhodes 

    Herman (Dusty) Rhodes 1 day ago

    The heavy elements were pulled to the inboard side of the rings to form the core of the earth, The mantle was the last of the 4 rings that formed the mantle of lighter elements. All the elements you named were present in the mantle rings and like you said it doubled the size of the earth and in a very short time, (Like 600 million years are so.) Our solar system was made from the disk of protoplanetary nebula.

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  • Herman (Dusty) Rhodes 

    Herman (Dusty) Rhodes 4 days ago

    Wrong ! … The cratons came from the rings of protoplanetary nebula around the sun. The whole solar system evolved from it wall to wall. The reason the cratons are different ages is because the older ones were the only surface on the small earth.. The younger ones had not evolved yet. They are part of the evidence of the growing earth.

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  • ginckgo 

    ginckgo 3 days ago

    If you believe that, it means you have no knowledge of reality. The accretion of the planetary bodies from the nebula released enough kinetic energy to keep the resultant planets fully molten for a long time; no structures from that time survive, especially not the cratons. The oldest rock formations in the cratons are all of volcanic or sedimentary origin, then heavily metamorphosed. Sedimentary also implies that there was something else to erode from, which is no longer there.

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  • GMBCATASTROPHE 

    GMBCATASTROPHE 3 days ago

    Impossible. Accretion has never explained how sufficient heat could be generated and we know that your particular crude fusion model is wrong, this has already been established. Clearly you are the knew horas a problem with reality. There has to be zero tolerance for your anti-science bullshit-artistry.

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  • ginckgo 

    ginckgo 2 days ago

    do you have to clean your keyboard often after such masturbatory trolling?

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  • GMBCATASTROPHE 

    GMBCATASTROPHE 3 days ago

    That is to say; clearly you are the one who has a problem with reality.

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  • Herman (Dusty) Rhodes 

    Herman (Dusty) Rhodes 1 day ago

    Think of the protoplanetary nebula as a big fat hamberger that someone dropped on the sidewalk. Along comes Big Foot and steps on it and flattened it out into a flat pancake. The meat would remain in the middle (spread out flat) and the bread would end up being a thin layer above and below the hamburger meat. The lighter elements on the outside so every set of rings for every planet would have a crust for every craton. There was a craton from every ring. (Ur,Artica, Atlantica, Baltica)

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  • GMBCATASTROPHE 

    GMBCATASTROPHE 4 days ago

    One gets so sick of immensely stupid people like dwkjo who simply will not absorb evidence or reason. I’ve gone over some of the reasons why the crude high pressure hydrogen fusion model of the sun is definitely wrong yet the anti-science twat still keeps trotting it out. What for? If we want to know what the idiots are attempting to lock in politically its all there in the Wikipedia. But we know for a fact it’s wrong and cannot be right.

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  • Herman (Dusty) Rhodes 

    Herman (Dusty) Rhodes 4 days ago

    You need to wonder how the writer of Genesis got his info. He lived thousand of years ago with no microscopes or telescopes. If you study the Hebrew text, you will find a modern day space age story there. It went right over the heads of the KJV translators. Not only him but Solomon too. then you have the book of John in the new testament. It’s not that hard to understand if you consider that they got the knowledge from the creator. You think it’s a myth but I take it as 100% Truth.

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  • dwkjo 

    dwkjo 4 days ago

    You wouldn’t be the first to read into ancient myth and attempt to draw science out of it. Some Muslims draw similar conclusions from the Qur’an. Either way, it’s a major stretch and involves far more imagination than went into the original writing. Furthermore, the earliest estimate for the writing of Genesis is the time of Solomon and ranges as late as the Babylonian exile. Modern scholars tend more toward the latter, indicating Babylonian and Persian influences on Judaic myth and theology.

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  • Herman (Dusty) Rhodes 

    Herman (Dusty) Rhodes 3 days ago

    Looks like you have been on the Web… :) … There is a book call the Strong’s concordance and it gives the definitions of the Hebrew and Greek words in English. If you are trying to understand the Bible from the King James translation while dealing with the evolution of the universe, .. forget it. Try looking up each word in the Hebrew and Greek text and see what the definitions are for yourself. It takes a while, but if you do, you will find a modern day story that fits with what we see.

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  • dwkjo 

    dwkjo 3 days ago

    I have found various websites with literal translations and even found one that provides direct translations of the individual Hebrew words. Once again, none of this provides any support for the Genesis tale as a record of the development of the universe. Furthermore, no translation refutes the authorship of Genesis as is accepted amongst Biblical scholars.

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  • Herman (Dusty) Rhodes 

    Herman (Dusty) Rhodes 14 hours ago

    If everyone in a class at school all missed the same question, would that make the question wrong? … No… It would show that just because they all agreed that it was wrong made them all wrong. The truth is the truth and it has reasons to show it’s truth. Agreement among the ignorant does not have a thing to do with what’s true. Thank God for the Bible.

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  • dwkjo 

    dwkjo 8 hours ago

    The Bible was written not by any god, but by men using the knowledge and imagination they had at the time. Genesis is pure mythology and demonstrably so. It not only has life before a shining Sun and stars, but massive inbreeding without consequences, an impossible technique of selective breeding, and more. Later books, like Samuel and Kings, are historical, though severely embellished and biased. Job is pure theological fiction.

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  • Herman (Dusty) Rhodes 

    Herman (Dusty) Rhodes 13 hours ago

    Yea,… right… Everyone on the Discovery scientific forum in 1995 got a big laugh out of my explanation that the protoplanetary nebula was called the waters in Genesis. Now, that’s common knowledge. They all got a laugh from telling them the sun had rings like Saturn, now that’s common knowledge. They all had high tech explanations that ended up being a lot of hot air. Looks like nothing has changed since 1995.

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  • dwkjo 

    dwkjo 8 hours ago

    None of that is common knowledge. It is just as fictitious now as it was then.

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  • Herman (Dusty) Rhodes 

    Herman (Dusty) Rhodes 4 days ago

    It takes about an hour to explain the evolution of the universe and the earth. There’s no way you can explain it in this box with limited text. That’s why I put it on Youtube.

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  • Herman (Dusty) Rhodes 

    Herman (Dusty) Rhodes 4 days ago

    Exactly. … That’s my point. … But not 30 million.. More like 4.5 billion. … From a small earth to a large earth. The mantle formed in 600 million years, but the inter core took billions and it formed first. That’s how the earth got it’s heat before the sun was a star, it was a small reactor and radiated it’s own heat. The light came from static charges from the rings it formed from. Science is so far out in left field on the evolution of the earth and the universe (life too) its funny.

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  • dwkjo 

    dwkjo 4 days ago

    Earth’s internal heat is a result of a combination of gravitational compression during accretion and of the decay of radioactive isotopes. According to modern theory, the Sun started shining as a result of nuclear fusion around fifty-million years after its formation started. The warped version of the Biblical story to which you hold has no bearing in reality.

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  • GMBCATASTROPHE 

    GMBCATASTROPHE 4 days ago

    We know for a fact that this model is entirely wrong. Foundation less and ass-backwards. It came about simply because someone bagged the model once crude hydrogen fusion was understood. Since the corona is hotter then the photosphere which is hotter then inside the photosphere obviously the model is wrong. Just like your useless brain. You really are a dumb flat-earth retard aren’t you? Yes you are.

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  • GMBCATASTROPHE 

    GMBCATASTROPHE 4 days ago

    Gravitational compression during accretion. What sort of a stupid creation theory is that? So in this make believe you’ve got all this dust. Whereas in the real world dust disperses, in this fucking idiotic fantasy you’ve got the dust coming together and forming these highly differentiated moons, planets rocks and the sun. Such utter bullshit and explains nothing we see. More fairy tales dogmatically locked in and you, you retard, you bought it.

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  • Herman (Dusty) Rhodes 

    Herman (Dusty) Rhodes 3 days ago

    According to a scientific THEORY of when the sun reached fusion, you might be right. But according to logic and the Bible, … no way. The sun had to grow from an eddy current to a planet, to a brown dwarf, to a star and that took billions of years. How did science decide WHEN the sun reached fusion. I have not found anything that says WHEN. … The Bible is reality but you have to read it first. The Bible was written in Hebrew and Greek. The Translations are only what men THINK.

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  • dwkjo 

    dwkjo 3 days ago

    Do some reading on topics like stellar evolution and the formation of the Solar system and you’ll learn why scientists think as they do. In short, they base their theories on logic and physics. The theories are also supported by models and simulations, and by observations of other stars in varying stages of development. The Bible’s tale and your interpretation of it is in fact not supported by any physical laws.

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  • GMBCATASTROPHE 

    GMBCATASTROPHE 3 days ago

    What good would that do anyone when we already know mainstream theory is wrong? Not only is it wrong it’s suicidally harmful bullshit. Because it implies that only a tired old star can go supernova. Which desperately underplays the scope for serious disasters averaging in thousands of years. Our real estate norms, our attitude to space exploration and all our social norms are catastrophic in view of authentic science as opposed to mainstream bullshitartistry.

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  • Herman (Dusty) Rhodes 

    Herman (Dusty) Rhodes 1 day ago

    Have you ever researched the Hebrew and Greek text. That’s the Bible. When it comes to reading anything about the evolution of the universe and life, stick with the original text. The translators of King James did not understand what the writer was saying, but we can. By using other definitions of the same Hebrew words, there is a modern day story explaining the evolution. The Bible was written for every generation but we can understand it thanks to science.

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  • Herman (Dusty) Rhodes 

    Herman (Dusty) Rhodes 1 day ago

    If you think that science has all the right answers, I feel sorry for you. That’s one good think about scientific theories, if you will wait a year or so, they will change.. LOL. … The Bible never changes because it’s right. … But you have to read it first and study what you read. You also have to realize that it’s just a short outline of the evolution of the universe and life.

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  • btcminer808a 

    btcminer808a 1 day ago

    I’m not really sure about that but even if it were totally true, why just evolution? Evolution is certainly useful in certain aspects of medicine for example, like understanding antibiotic resistance but there are many other things I can think of that are even more helpful. For instance, does this bible’s tale give any hints of how to make anything useful like telescopes or computers? Because that would certainly be impressive

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  • GMBCATASTROPHE 

    GMBCATASTROPHE 1 day ago

    Now while I think some version of evolutionary theory is going to ultimately prevail you really aren’t talking sense here. We don’t have to sign on to mainstream evolutionary dogma just to explain how antibiotic resistance works. This is like claiming that we needed Einstein to tell us how Mercury revolved around the sun. We already knew before the Huckster was even born.

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  • btcminer808a 

    btcminer808a 23 hours ago

    No we don’t, I never said we needed it, I just said it was useful. My comment was asking Mr. Rhodes if the Bible, which he believed contained a description of evolution, gave any other more useful insights into the the physical means to make life on earth easier.

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  • GMBCATASTROPHE 

    GMBCATASTROPHE 22 hours ago

    Not in your example its not useful. Maybe you could think of better examples I suppose.

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  • GMBCATASTROPHE 

    GMBCATASTROPHE 3 days ago

    That is an interesting biblical interpretation. I was most worried that you would turn out to be a gentleman that thought the planet formed less than 7000 years ago. But there is no way he’s got a viable scientific theory on the fly. That sort of fusion cannot ignite just from a dust cloud falling in on itself. Also that sort of fusion doesn’t appear to be a main driver in the way or sun works.

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  • Herman (Dusty) Rhodes 

    Herman (Dusty) Rhodes 4 days ago

    So to you, all the continents fitting together on a smaller ball is not evidence? Then some say that the continental shelves do not fit with the small earth theory. Common sense will tell you that when the earth grew the continents took on a different curve. That means that they wrinkled up in some places and spread out in others. over 95% of all the continents fit on a smaller earth. … That’s not evidence to you? …You just said that you admit when you don’t know the answer … LOL

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  • dwkjo 

    dwkjo 4 days ago

    I have yet to see any convincing model of the continents fitting together in the Pacific.

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  • GMBCATASTROPHE 

    GMBCATASTROPHE 4 days ago

    That is simply because you are one of these immensely stupid people who imagine that if they refuse to look at the evidence it will go away. On a smaller globe its a near perfect fit with all the land mass. Obviously this cannot be a coincidence. Only a confirmed cretin would say otherwise. Plus we’re this not the case we would be philosophically stymied as to how the mass of the universe ever got here.

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  • Herman (Dusty) Rhodes 

    Herman (Dusty) Rhodes 3 days ago

    I have a model on Youtube but I don’t know if you can make out the continents. I traced them off the globe and traced them on to a smaller ball about 1/3 the size of the globe. Pangaea as a small earth. You have to keep in mind that the continents took on a different curve as the earth grew, so they had to stretch and and compress. No one knows the conditions so no one can actually tell in detail. It’s close enough to see that they all fit unless you don’t want to accept it.

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  • dwkjo 

    dwkjo 3 days ago

    In other words, you were not able to fit the continents together with the same ease as they do in the Atlantic. Like Neal Adams, you had to skew the shapes to make it fit your hypothesis, rather than formulating a hypothesis to predict the observed behaviour. This backwards approach is not scientific in the least.

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  • GMBCATASTROPHE 

    GMBCATASTROPHE 3 days ago

    Not you don’t have to skew the shapes. Complete nonsense. The exercise has been repeated by many people. Even the fat kid that potholer refused to take into consideration has done it.

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  • Herman (Dusty) Rhodes 

    Herman (Dusty) Rhodes 14 hours ago

    I din’t have to do anything. What happened, happened. I just had enough understanding to recognize it ans put it together on a model to show how simple it is. When you have all the continents on a small ball and put them on a larger ball, the shape will change a little in order to fit the surface. I suppose some people don’t know that because they sure do have a hard time accepting it. The approach is scientific because it is a search for the Truth (accept the Truth) and that’s what science is.

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  • GMBCATASTROPHE 

    GMBCATASTROPHE 4 days ago

    These kids can get nothing right since they have no rational understanding of what evidence is. With them evidence is to do with brand names of institutions, published peer reviewed papers, and somehow convincing the media, usually by a lot of bullying and whining, that ones view is the consensus. This dildo really imagines that one can make a sphere out of any random shapes.

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  • GMBCATASTROPHE 

    GMBCATASTROPHE 4 days ago

    Hey has anyone got a mechanism for new space creation? Like instead of running from a gang of hoodlums out comes your new space machine. Immediately you’ve pushed them 200 away. But wait for it. Under Khazars idiocy you’ve effortlessly pushed both sides of the universe aside. No energy expended. Any compromise with these Jew idiots is simply unacceptable.

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  • GMBCATASTROPHE 

    GMBCATASTROPHE 4 days ago

    Ha ha ha ha ha. The idiot Mike Gibson has bought into the fairy-tale that space expands!!!!!! The fucking retard thinks that space is like lotus123 or Excel. If any of you others have bought into this “inflation” excuse imbedded in the Big Bang creation myth for the love of intelligent blondes with big tits have a bit of pride. If these ass-clown Khazars affecting to be scientists can stooge you on this matter there is simply nothing they cannot force into your brain.

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  • londonting1 

    londonting1 6 days ago

    O.k so, Space is expanding, the Milky Way is expanding, our solar system is expanding, our sun is expanding and so on But the Earth is not? Sometimes experts can miss what could be obvious. Im not an expert and we dont all have to be!

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  • eatmylogic 

    eatmylogic 6 days ago

    The Milky Way is NOTexpanding, our solar system is NOT expanding, our sun is NOT expanding and the Earth is NOT EITHER. Oly the space between clusters of galaxies is expanding. You ought to read some introductory astronomy before you spout off.

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  • GMBCATASTROPHE 

    GMBCATASTROPHE 6 days ago

    Sorry. Wrong on all points dummy. Not only are they expanding. But if there wasn’t a mechanism for matter to be the catalyst for new matter there would be no way to explain how the matter got here in the first place.

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  • Herman (Dusty) Rhodes 

    Herman (Dusty) Rhodes 3 days ago

    From what I found in the Bible, God created an infinite structure that generated the elementary particles that produced the first generation quasars that produced hydrogen. The universe filled with hydrogen then the hydrogen produced the second generation quasars that produced neutrons that the other elements were formed with. The Spitzler saw the first and second generation quasars and saw particles being spewed from their jets so that’s evidence for the Bible.

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  • GMBCATASTROPHE 

    GMBCATASTROPHE 3 days ago

    That is interesting, because there have been computer models that show how a galaxy can be built out of two quasars. But I probably have a different idea of what Quasars are than you.

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  • GMBCATASTROPHE 

    GMBCATASTROPHE 6 days ago

    Space cannot expand dopey. Its not Lotus 123.

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  • GMBCATASTROPHE 

    GMBCATASTROPHE 6 days ago

    Imagine the Chutzpah involved in making the claim that space is being created like it was a Microsoft Excel spreadsheet. This is the calamity of Jews getting into science. They fill the place with all sorts of mysticism.

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  • Herman (Dusty) Rhodes 

    Herman (Dusty) Rhodes 3 days ago

    I doubt if anyone knows how God created the sub atomic particles and solid elements. The Bible gives an outline and I use that to fit with what science has discovered. We do know that it’s way too deep to understand as humans but we can get an idea with what we see. I’m not a Jew but anyone has the right to wonder. The book of John says it was a computation.

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  • Herman (Dusty) Rhodes 

    Herman (Dusty) Rhodes 3 days ago

    But the structure of space is only expanding a microscopic measurement. It’s over billions light years that make it appear red shifted. All of those microscopic measurements add up to make a red shift appear. The universe was not much smaller than it is now in the beginning. Science has blown it way out of reality and said it started out smaller than an atom… LOL.

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  • GMBCATASTROPHE 

    GMBCATASTROPHE 6 days ago

    Space cannot expand. Thats another fairy tale. Its matter that gets created into space. If space isn’t infinite then one needs to try and figure out what is outside the proposed limited space. So the whole thing is just an invention of mystics pretending to be scientists.

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  • MikeGibsonSG 

    MikeGibsonSG 5 days ago

    The denial of this irrefutable fact is just a fantasy of religious maniacs feigning an understanding of science. Go back to the burger flipping you were destined for.

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  • michael delaney

    michael delaney 5 days ago

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  • michael delaney 

    michael delaney 5 days ago

    let me ask you, what contained the seed of the BB?

    What confined it so that it would have compressed all of the known universe to a pinpoint in space less- time less existence?

    What existed outside of this realm to allow for such an expression of creation?

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  • MikeGibsonSG 

    MikeGibsonSG 5 days ago

    The seed? Learn some language for grownups or go back to kindergarten.

    The universe known by whom? I have a sneaking suspicion you have no idea what you’re talking about. So specify what you mean by “the known universe”.

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  • michael delaney 

    michael delaney 5 days ago

    “Learn some language for grownups or go back to kindergarten.”

    seed is not a grown up word? Its in the grown up dictionary

    Your world spawned my world grows

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  • Herman (Dusty) Rhodes 

    Herman (Dusty) Rhodes 3 days ago

    Michael, .. If you really want to see something funny, ask them to explain it to you step by step. … and give reasons for each action. The big bang theory is on it’s way out, (Thank God). There was a big bang (Solomon called it a Roar) But it happened throughout the universe all at one time and the sub atomic particles were generated not exploding out of a microscopic b-b.

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  • ginckgo 

    ginckgo 2 days ago

    Check out Lawrence Krauss’ “Universe from Nothing” and you’ll see that the Big Bang theory is stronger than it ever was.

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  • GMBCATASTROPHE 

    GMBCATASTROPHE 2 days ago

    No its not. Its a totally baseless fairy tale. There has never been any evidence in its favour. Its a Jew banker theory. A manufacturing man knows that it takes time to make anything. Manufacturing requires many tasks in parallel and many in series. It is cyclical in nature and for this reason it must be ongoing. But a Jew banker just claps his hands and all the gear appears before him. Nothing has ever been manufactured instantaneously. Its obviously impossible. What a dumb cunt you are.

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  • redchris05 

    redchris05 1 day ago

    Expansion of space indicates an originating point; simple as that really. If you disagree then I assume you are going to provide evidence which demonstrates that this is explained by another hypothesis?

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  • GMBCATASTROPHE 

    GMBCATASTROPHE 1 day ago

    There is no expansion of space. The idea is idiotic. For things to stretch, warp, compress et al, these phrases all denote a change in shape. Objects have shape. That which has shape is an OBJECT or some other entity which outlines a three-dimensional region. But since space has no shape, and time has no shape, neither of these two things change shape, and no-one has ever developed evidence for new space creation. Whereas the evidence for new matter creation is there every waking moment.

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  • btcminer808a 

    btcminer808a 23 hours ago

    Expansion of space is a tricky topic as it needs a study of both the local and global differential geometries – the main ideas of manifolds were set by Bernhard Riemann and worked upon considerably all the way to Einstein who used them in Gen-Relativity. Alot of it is speculation- e.g what if space is curved? do angles in a triangle on this curved space sum to 180*? Evidence overwhelmingly space expands, but you may well be right, and we are actually immersed in a wider everyday Euclidean space.

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  • GMBCATASTROPHE 

    GMBCATASTROPHE 22 hours ago

    No its not a tricky topic. Space doesn’t expand, has never expanded and no evidence has ever surfaced for such a ridiculous context-robbing piece of idiocy. A piece of elastic can expand because its an object. But the space doesn’t expand. The elastic expands not the space. In all of history there has been no example where the elastic didn’t expand but the space did.

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  • redchris05 

    redchris05 21 hours ago

    Actually, spatio-temporal dimensions DO have a shape. One of the questions facing cosmologists relates to the curvature of space, as this will determine its boundary conditions and, as a result, its extent.

    Your claims that these entities do not have shape is nothing more than a manifestation of your lack of imagination and intelligence.

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  • GMBCATASTROPHE 

    GMBCATASTROPHE 21 hours ago

    There is no such thing as a spacio-temporal DIMENSION. Its a Jew fairy tale. Time is NOT a dimension. We describe space with three dimensions for convenience only. But time has not this feature.

    It cannot have shape if it doesn’t exist you fucking idiot. Never has there been evidence for space-time. Never. Not once. Space yes. All your waking hours testified to space. Not space-time. Got it you retard?

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  • redchris05 

    redchris05 20 hours ago

    Then explain why giving particles extra spatial velocity results in a reduction of their temporal velocity. This is perfectly accounted for if they are limited in their dimensional velocity, but not so easy for your racism. Sorry, claims.

    The above also demonstrates the existence of space-time as an antity. Feel free to actually provide some refuting evidence for the observed temporal deceleration of particles with increasing spatial acceleration.

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  • GMBCATASTROPHE 

    GMBCATASTROPHE 20 hours ago

    All velocity is relative. There is no such thing as giving anything EXTRA velocity in this strict sense. And only an idiot would say extra “spacial-velocity.” And no. Nothing happens to time. You are just full of shit. Time is a derived concept based on regular motion, memory and simultaneity. So you cannot give time extra velocity. This doesn’t happen ever.

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  • redchris05 

    redchris05 20 hours ago

    CERN accelerate muons in order to make them last for longer (in time) by increasing the rate at which they travel through spatial dimensions. This allows more of their universally constant velocity to be expended on spatial motion, reducing that available for temporal motion. This has been measured innumerable times: every time the LHC switches on, for example.

    If you dispute this then offer up a better explanation for the observed effects.

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  • GMBCATASTROPHE 

    GMBCATASTROPHE 20 hours ago

    No they don’t. They haven’t even proven that an entity called a Muon exists. We have good evidence for protons and electrons. For molecules and atoms, and I think we have good evidence for neutrinos.

    Prove that a muon exists.

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  • redchris05 

    redchris05 17 hours ago

    New Evidence for the Existence of a Particle Intermediate Between the Proton and Electron”, Phys. Rev. 52, 1003 (1937).

    experimental observation of muons. More? Okay:

    Rossi, B.; Hall, D. B. (1941). “Variation of the Rate of Decay of Mesotrons with Momentum”. Physical Review 59 (3): 223–228.

    That one was muons from the sun passing through the atmosphere.

    Will that do?

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  • GMBCATASTROPHE 

    GMBCATASTROPHE 16 hours ago

    Right. Well they advertise a lot, but they haven’t come up with much in the last sixty years despite the hype. The electron and the proton are known. Their precise nature is disputed over. Even the neutrino, which has good evidence in its favour, may be just these guys getting mixed up with the aether. Who knows. They are proven incompetents, so its not really possible to find out what it is that they are actually looking at.

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  • redchris05 

    redchris05 15 hours ago

    Then check the raw data yourself: they make it freely available when they publish their work. Either provide some explanations backed up by evidence or give this crap a rest. Pick one.

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  • GMBCATASTROPHE 

    GMBCATASTROPHE 14 hours ago

    You check the raw data. But you are not competent to find out if they are full of shit. I already know they are. They have rejected reason.

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  • redchris05 

    redchris05 17 hours ago

    I hope you’ll note the date of those two papers: both are over sixty years old. These particles have been known about for over half a century, and had been predicted prior to that, but you have never heard of these reports. Your scholarship is non-existent, as is your hypothesied aether.

    By the way, the latter paper also proves time dilation showing, empirically, that time is a dimension. Enjoy.

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  • GMBCATASTROPHE 

    GMBCATASTROPHE 16 hours ago

    No. No photon has ever been detected, and anything detected is not a photon, as advertised by Jew science. The wave nature of light rules out any such thing as a photon.

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  • redchris05 

    redchris05 15 hours ago

    Yet they exist, proving the wave/particle duality that many people know of. Maybe you should make some effort to understand phenomena instead of dismissing those which may be beyond your abilities. You’d look less of a cretinous fuckwit.

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  • GMBCATASTROPHE 

    GMBCATASTROPHE 14 hours ago

    There is no such thing as wave-particle duality. Light moves in waves, hence there are no photons as advertised. Light moves through an aether.

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  • GMBCATASTROPHE 

    GMBCATASTROPHE 20 hours ago

    There is no such thing as a universally constant velocity. Velocity is an entirely relative concept despite what the incestuous charlatan zionist tried on. His theory of relativity is really a theory of velocity absolutism.

    But by its nature velocity is entirely relative.

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  • redchris05 

    redchris05 17 hours ago

    Awww, bless! Now you’re having to resort to pathetic insults to cover for your chronic lack of supporting evidence.

    Explain the time dilation effects I have linked you to, as these are demonstrative of a four-dimensional space-time. Explain why you think otherwise. Don’t forget the references.

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  • michael delaney 

    michael delaney 17 hours ago

    what dimension existed prior to the Big Bang, allowing for the Big Bang?

    Is it a void that has infinite space to accommodate infinite universes?

    What I find hilarious is that not one scientist can explainwhy Earth has rotation and a planet like Venus does not

    How can one ignore all the surrounding planets when assuming to understand the under pinning of creation?

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  • redchris05 

    redchris05 17 hours ago

    Why did there have to be a dimension? The big bang was an expansion of space-time, not an effect in a pre-existing space.

    Venus does have rotation: it is much slower as it is almost tidally locked to the sun. Earths moon prevents this at the cost of momentum.

    The planets were not extant when the universe began. Otherwise, I have no idea what you are referring to. Or how it is relevant to time dilation.

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  • GMBCATASTROPHE 

    GMBCATASTROPHE 17 hours ago

    No you retard. There was no such thing as space-time and never once any evidence for such a thing as space-time. There was never a big bang, nor once any evidence for such a thing. And we divide reality up into three dimensions simply for convenience. Now is your claim that there are 5 dimensions now? That is your lying claim is it not? You cannot make the assumption that you can say “when the universe began.” There has never been time dilation nor evidence for time dilation.

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  • redchris05 

    redchris05 16 hours ago

    You can’t even answer my responses to YOUR posts, so don’t bother jumping into other threads.

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  • michael delaney 

    michael delaney 16 hours ago

    what medium allowed for expansion? What container was ruptured to allow for such an outward expression?

    Venus rotates at 5mph because external effects acting on the planet such as the surrounding planets & Sun

    However, Earth & Mars have an internal twine which gives both planets a rotation period of 24 hours,

    Venus & Mercury do not display internal rotation what caused the breakdown, or is this coincidence?

    To better understand our surroundings will improve our perceived reality

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  • redchris05 

    redchris05 15 hours ago

    You are still assuming that the expansion took place WITHIN a pre-existing space. This is not accurate.

    The rest of your post is not relevant and you have yet to explain exactly why you are suddenyl invoking selectively biased rotations to exemplify something. Elucidate, please.

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  • GMBCATASTROPHE 

    GMBCATASTROPHE 17 hours ago

    There has never been a time dilation effect and there has never been any evidence for such an effect. Nor could there be any evidence for such an effect, because time doesn’t have velocity or shape. Time isn’t an entity. Its a concept. A derived concept at that.

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  • redchris05 

    redchris05 15 hours ago

    The experiment I cited you is an example of time dilation. Read it or shut the fuck up, because you clearly have no idea how any aspect of physics actually works.

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  • GMBCATASTROPHE 

    GMBCATASTROPHE 14 hours ago

    No you are lying. The experiment you cited did not show an example of time dilation and no experiment ever has. This is impossible since velocity is a relative concept and we are not entitled to say that one object is at rest and the other is moving.

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  • redchris05 

    redchris05 13 hours ago

    Have you even read them?

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  • GMBCATASTROPHE 

    GMBCATASTROPHE 38 minutes ago

    I’ve certainly read many like them. And I ran out of hoping that they would come up with some sort of killer factoid. They are charlatans and anti-scientists. They are basically cult members. The cult of post-1913 secular-Jew theology.

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  • GMBCATASTROPHE 

    GMBCATASTROPHE 32 minutes ago

    You have not offered evidence. You are lying. Your beliefs are entirely faith-based. Okay you make the argument for these guys hey dopey? The argument they will be making will be by analogy to some unconnected problem. I”ve seen it all before. They will have no evidence. They will simply say that the idea COULD WORK and then they will come up with an analogy but no evidence. Then they will rest their case.

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  • GMBCATASTROPHE 

    GMBCATASTROPHE 31 minutes ago

    The idea of push-gravity has been postulated, which is an idea that is going nowhere. However trained physicists seldom make mathematical errors. Push-Gravity is a particle-based theory of Gravity. To work the calculations say that the particles would have to move at 20 billion times the speed of light. So gravity propagates essentially instantaneously. Or all our orbits would unravel.

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  • GMBCATASTROPHE 

    GMBCATASTROPHE 29 minutes ago

    Science is not Talmudic Judaism. A citation from the Talmud or a link to Peer Reviewed work IS NOT EVIDENCE. Evidence is data, BROADLY considered, brought to bare on an hypothesis NARROWLY considered, by way of logic and human reason. A citation might cut it in a Rabbi steam-room but that is not science.

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  • GMBCATASTROPHE 

    GMBCATASTROPHE 25 minutes ago

    See the characteristics of evidence as below. Evidence has at least about five characteristics as listed. A proxy series standing in for hard data IS NOT EVIDENCE if only one proxy is used. I can prove this totally, so the Big Bang’s reliance on red shift still leaves it as a baseless theory ……. baseless quite apart from it being idiotic and the greatest embarrassment in the history of science.

    You would agree that without red shift the BB is baseless? Or is that a little bit too hard?

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  • GMBCATASTROPHE 

    GMBCATASTROPHE 16 hours ago

    There has never been time dilation recorded and no evidence for time dilation has ever surfaced or will ever surface.

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  • redchris05 

    redchris05 15 hours ago

    I cited you an example of it. Explain why their findings don’t count.

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  • GMBCATASTROPHE 

    GMBCATASTROPHE 14 hours ago

    You have never once come up with evidence for time dilation and none of your wild goose chases have that evidence either. Get yourself a macro example.

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  • redchris05 

    redchris05 13 hours ago

    Rossi, B.; Hall, D. B. (1941). “Variation of the Rate of Decay of Mesotrons with Momentum”. Physical Review 59 (3): 223–228

    Frisch, D. H.; Smith, J. H. (1963). “Measurement of the Relativistic Time Dilation Using μ-Mesons”. American Journal of Physics 31 (5): 342–355.

    Time dilation observed with moving particles in both cases. If you don’t think they demonstrate time dilation then EXPLAIN EXACTLY WHY NOT. The latter one is free to access online.

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  • GMBCATASTROPHE 

    GMBCATASTROPHE 9 minutes ago

    These guys are so without evidence their plan is to show time dilation in entities which they have yet to prove even exist. This is really scraping at the bottom of the scum barrel. Stop being a fucking idiot and give me something verifiable. A COMPETENTLY staged example of evidence involving macro objects. Proven objects.

    Is that too much to fucking ask? It sure is if you take the Jew-town faith-based approach.

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  • GMBCATASTROPHE 

    GMBCATASTROPHE 20 hours ago

    “The above also demonstrates the existence of space-time as an antity. ” It doesn’t demonstrate anything because its never happened. Its just a follow up to your idiocy that space is increased as opposed to the elastic band within the space.

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  • redchris05 

    redchris05 18 hours ago

    CERN, and other particle colliders like Tevatron, accelerate particles to close to the universal constant. This means that when they collide their products are moving at speed and have proven to last longer than they do at lower speeds. This is because their spatial velocity comes at the expense of their temporal velocity, showing that time is a dimension in the process. Got it yet?

    I expect evidence if you insist on arguing, as these effects are readily seen in any press release from the LHC.

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  • GMBCATASTROPHE 

    GMBCATASTROPHE 16 hours ago

    They don’t always know what they are accelerating. There is no such thing as temporal velocity. Time is not an entity its a concept, and a derived concept at that. This is not what is happening, and the people at Cern aren’t competent to figure out what is really going on. You aren’t able to check their logic, nor do you have the capacity to do so if you had their co-operation.

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  • redchris05 

    redchris05 15 hours ago

    These experiments EXPLICITLY prove that there is a temporal velocity. I am asking you to explain these effects if they are NOT the result of a decrease in velocity through a temporal dimension. The facts: particles have known, and repeatably established lifespans: these are extended with increased spatial velocity: increased spatial velocity decreases temporal velocity, showing that time is a dimension. Use their publically-available raw data to explain this if time is not a dimension.

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  • GMBCATASTROPHE 

    GMBCATASTROPHE 15 hours ago

    No none of these experiments have proved time dilation. Temporal velocity as a phrase is like “unicorn submarine” or something idiotic like that where features of two different concepts are mixed up. Time is a concept based on regular motion in the first place. It cannot be dilated because it doesn’t exist. No evidence has ever surfaced for time dilation. The existence of the particles themselves are not proven. Get yourself a life-sized experiment.

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  • redchris05 

    redchris05 13 hours ago

    Your lack of understanding is not contradictory evidence. If you disagree with the findings from these experiments then ANSWER THE FUCKING QUESTION. If time dilation was not responsible for, for example, the extended lifespan of the muon, then what was?

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  • GMBCATASTROPHE 

    GMBCATASTROPHE 8 minutes ago

    You impudent little cunt. Its YOUR failure to understand what evidence IS that does not constitute evidence. Get your act together you fucking cretin.

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  • GMBCATASTROPHE 

    GMBCATASTROPHE 7 minutes ago

    If you haven’t fucking proved the existence of an object you cannot fucking use that fucking object in a time fucking dilation experiment and call it evidence.

    Do you not understand that you logic-deprived degenerate? Is it the fluoride in the water you moron?

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  • GMBCATASTROPHE 

    GMBCATASTROPHE 5 minutes ago

    Now what is wrong with a fucking large proven object? What is wrong with that? Why can you not find a proven object, in a competently run experiment to prove your Jew fairy tale if you are right and I am wrong ?????? He asked the stupid kid knowingly?????????? Stage Whisper.

    For the love of stupid Jew chicks with huge tits. The reason you cannot find a competently run experiment with proven entities to make your case IS THAT THERER ARE NONE? Or did this not occur to you you stupid twat?

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  • GMBCATASTROPHE 

    GMBCATASTROPHE 14 hours ago

    No the experiments do not show EVEN THE SLIGHTEST EVIDENCE for any mischief to do with time itself. No such evidence has ever emerged. Nor could it since velocity is a purely relative concept and no two objects at different velocities can be said to be ever still or moving. Plus no object ever moves in a straight line in this galaxy.

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  • redchris05 

    redchris05 13 hours ago

    Everything you just said is demonstrably incorrect. There IS evidence; those citations provide it; objects ONLY move in straight lines.

    You velocity comment is self-contradictory: If it is relative then one observer would ALWAYS consider themselves at rest compared to another. It is only if velocity is independent of both observers that they could definitively be said to equally mobile. You haven’t got a clue, have you?

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  • e102ewan 

    e102ewan 12 hours ago

    He thinks there is no such thing as time dilation and he doesn’t believe something can exist as both wave and particle. It’s like he has no understanding of physics. He also says that there is a conspiracy in the scientific community to believe in everything Einstein said without question even though Einstein lost the quantum mechanics debate and spent the rest of his life unsuccessfully trying to prove it wrong.

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  • blitter blit 

    blitter blit 7 hours ago

    it also seems he’s a holocaust denier, a Jew hater and conspiracy theorist, he doesn’t believe we landed on the moon and is generally just a total whacked out paranoid cunt from australia. all you trying to argue with him is a waste of time i’m afraid, just look up his name in google

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  • GMBCATASTROPHE 

    GMBCATASTROPHE 42 minutes ago

    There was no Jew holocaust. We must have zero tolerance for these baseless Jew lies. There was a German holocaust. There was a Japanese holocaust. There was a non-Russian Soviet holocaust. There was another non-Russian Soviet REFUGEE holocaust. There was NEVER a Jew holocaust.

    ….Except……

    …. There was mass-death of Jew slaves from Typhus. There was also mass-murder of the Jew slaves by the allies in the last few weeks and months of the war, when all food supplies were cut off.

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  • GMBCATASTROPHE 

    GMBCATASTROPHE 16 minutes ago

    We may well have landed on the moon. I don’t claim that at all. We didn’t do it with a Fritz Lang movie plot and we didn’t do it under Apollo. That is the only claim being made here, and the evidence is very clear on this matter.

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  • GMBCATASTROPHE 

    GMBCATASTROPHE 13 minutes ago

    I’m not denying the holocaust of German innocents!!!! Are you a filthy holocaust denier on this matter? I’m not denying the burnt offering of crispy Japanese war victims? Are you in denial of this matter? I’m not denying the mass-murder of the Operation Keelhaul victims? Are you in denial of this program.

    But there was no Jew Holocaust. Effectively there was a period of Jew slavery. Conscripted labour in effect. Which is bad enough I’ll admit that much. Hey its only science but I like it.

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  • redchris05 

    redchris05 1 hour ago

    I know. I’m trying to force him to read some of this stuff so he’ll see that his claims are entirely indefensible. We’ll see what happens then.

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  • GMBCATASTROPHE 

    GMBCATASTROPHE 17 minutes ago

    There isn’t any time dilation. This is a charlatans claim since it ignores the specific nature of time. Its status as a CONCEPT and not an entity. Its status as a DERIVED and not a primary concept. Einstein was either a conman or he just wasn’t very bright.

    Here I ignore the total lack of evidence for time dilation. So missing is the evidence people try to make us take their word for it on the basis of hypothetical unknown sub-atomic entities. Why never a COMPETENT macro experiment?

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  • GMBCATASTROPHE 

    GMBCATASTROPHE 40 minutes ago

    No you are lying. Every mainstream claim you make is totally baseless, and entirely without evidence for the claim. Everything. This is not science this is post-1913 Jewish mysticism posing as science.

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  • GMBCATASTROPHE 

    GMBCATASTROPHE 21 hours ago

    There is no curvature of space. Space has no shape so it cannot be curved. Capiche? So no ……… scientists don’t face such a question. Only idiot cult members do.

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  • GMBCATASTROPHE 

    GMBCATASTROPHE 1 day ago

    That space does not get created is a fact quite regardless of any 1000′s of correct or incorrect hypotheses invented or still in the future. This is Just Jews spinning shit. This is what they do.

    Entities have their own characteristics. Colours don’t have smell for example. All these fuckwits are doing is stealing a characteristic from one entity and putting it in a place where it doesn’t belong.

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  • redchris05 

    redchris05 21 hours ago

    Still no supporting evidence, I note. Do you think you could abstain from your racism for long enough to do a little research?

    You have just defined space as something which cannot be created, making it a physical part of reality, yet your previous comment stated that it has no physical properties, such as shape: do you realise you are contradicting yourself, or is it irrelevant to you as you seek only a way to vent your innate anti-semitism?

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  • GMBCATASTROPHE 

    GMBCATASTROPHE 21 hours ago

    What the fuck are you talking about.

    Its manifest that space doesn’t have shape you twat. This is not an entity that has that feature. Just as colour doesn’t have smell. Right? Fucking moron. What is wrong with you?

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  • GMBCATASTROPHE 

    GMBCATASTROPHE 21 hours ago

    Its not a definitional problem you twat. Its just that space is not an object and it has no shape. If you imagine that it has shape and then you draw that shape, what the fuck are you claiming is outside of that shape if not more space.

    Fuck we are dealing with retards here.

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  • redchris05 

    redchris05 20 hours ago

    The CMB radiation shows that spce is flat with anerror margin, according to NASA, of less than 1%. If it has curvature it is on a scale so large it is almost impossible to detect. This agrees perfectly with the predictions of someone you think was a con.

    It also demonstrates that space has a shape; probably a flat one. I accept that some people have difficulty in imagining a four-dimensional flat surface, but this doesn’t make it not exist. You are wrong, plain and simple.

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  • redchris05 

    redchris05 20 hours ago

    If you are going to continue in this bullshit, Dunning-Kruger-proving, ignorant mindset then you can start providing some evidence to support your claims. I consider your own opinion on this matter of no value, so cite some real work which supports you or fuck off and spout your ignorant, bigoted bollocks to someone who gives a fuck.

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  • GMBCATASTROPHE 

    GMBCATASTROPHE 20 hours ago

    You are the one that is bullshitting mate. Space isn’t flat you fucking liar. It doesn’t have a shape. It goes out in all directions, three-dimensionally, galaxies are seen on all sides as far as we can see refuting the big bang utterly.

    You are just a charlatan mate. Everything you say is not only wrong but self-evidently wrong like that chuckle-head that Dawkins introduced in the video I watched yesterday.

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  • redchris05 

    redchris05 20 hours ago

    Why would galaxies be constrained to one area of space?

    You are STILL unable to tell the difference between a two-dimensional shape WITHIN a four dimensional universe and the shape of the four-dimensional universe itself. That you are repeatedly making this mistake leads me to believe you are in no tenable position to be making these assertions. What are your qualifications? My physical experience is limited to electrical phenomena, but I suspect that makes me more of an authority than you.

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  • GMBCATASTROPHE 

    GMBCATASTROPHE 20 hours ago

    You are being a charlatan and trying to pass off the big bang lie. But you claim that we can look back to under a billion years of this make-believe big bang. Which means that when we look back we ought to know which direction the big bang was in.

    When you look at a star which you presume is 10 billion light years away, you say you are looking at something that happened 10 billion years ago. You should be able to point me in the direction of the big bang. And all the galaxies that are ……

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  • redchris05 

    redchris05 17 hours ago

    You are now assuming that space pre-dates the big bang, which nobody has claimed. Your assertion that space existed to host what I suspect you believe was an “explosion” belies your ignorance. You are suffering from the Dunning-Kruger effect.

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  • GMBCATASTROPHE 

    GMBCATASTROPHE 17 hours ago

    You idiot. There is no such entity as space-time, nor has there ever been any evidence for space-time ever. Nor has there been any evidence for a start-date for the universe. Nor is there such an entity as “time” it is rather a derived concept. You are a moron.

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  • GMBCATASTROPHE 

    GMBCATASTROPHE 20 hours ago

    …. And all the galaxies that are that age or thereabouts ought to be in that one direction. But supposing I point the equipment in the other direction. The distance I can see far back or far away is only dependent on the equipment. I can always see more galaxies just as much as my equipment will allow. If the big bang were true when we got say 12.8 billion light years away it would be all in one direction and we would locate where we are in the scheme of things. That we cannot do this…..

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  • redchris05 

    redchris05 17 hours ago

    Whoever claimed that the big bang happened at a particular place? It was an EXPANSION of space (and time) and happened to every part of space(time). There was no originating spot from which everything is forever receding.

    If you feel that there is some reason for expecting this then state exactly why, citing evidence as you go. Otherwise, leave the poor Straw-Man alone.

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  • GMBCATASTROPHE 

    GMBCATASTROPHE 17 hours ago

    You idiot. How can I look in one direction 12 billion years ago, and then look at 180 degrees 12 billion years ago, and then tell myself that the universe is less then 14 billion years old. A child wouldn’t do this but a Jew can and a liar can try it on. Obviously if we can look back 13 billion years we would see the expansion after the bang and it would all HAVE TO BE in one direction that far back. Only a cretin cannot see this.

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  • redchris05 

    redchris05 16 hours ago

    Because ALL OF space has expanded: space expanded in EVERY direction. This is why you can see for 12 billion light years in ANY direction: space has receded from this point in every direction. The same is true of ANY point in space you choose to observe from.

    We can actually see further than 14 billion light years due to the accelerating expansion of space. Look it up. Unless you already know it inherently, of course.

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  • GMBCATASTROPHE 

    GMBCATASTROPHE 14 hours ago

    Space has never expanded. No example of space expanding has ever come to light. Space cannot expand. Space has no shape. Expanding is changing shape in some way. Space is an entity without shape and so cannot change shape. No evidence has emerged for an end to space in any direction. No explanation has ever been given for what would be outside of this region. We are only talking about Jew lies here.

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  • redchris05 

    redchris05 13 hours ago

    Prove it.

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  • GMBCATASTROPHE 

    GMBCATASTROPHE 14 hours ago

    Distance isn’t in proportion to velocity, and neither can be ascertained by red shift. But if these assumptions were true it would itself refute the big bang, and it would definitely have us at the dead centre of the universe despite all lying denials to the contrary.

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  • redchris05 

    redchris05 13 hours ago

    Prove this too. With references.

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  • GMBCATASTROPHE 

    GMBCATASTROPHE 40 minutes ago

    Fuck you chosen one, you don’t tell me what to do. You’ve got nothing. Your beliefs are purely faith-based.

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  • GMBCATASTROPHE 

    GMBCATASTROPHE 16 hours ago

    There has never been any expansion of space. The entire notion is more Jew mysticism. No expansion of space has ever been recorded, no evidence has ever surfaced for the expansion of space ever. Space is without shape and therefore is unchanging as to shape, since it had no shape yesterday and will have no shape tomorrow.

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  • redchris05 

    redchris05 15 hours ago

    Repeating your beliefs ad nauseum will not make them correct. Try citing some evuidence to support you as I have done.

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  • GMBCATASTROPHE 

    GMBCATASTROPHE 14 hours ago

    Stop doing it then. Stop repeating the phrases “time dilation” when none exists and no evidence exists for it and when it is impossible since time has no velocity or shape to dilate. Stop repeating the word “photon” when photons are ruled out by wave motion of light. Stop repeating the phrase “space-time” when not such entity exists nor any evidence for it.

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  • redchris05 

    redchris05 13 hours ago

    I have offered evidence and you have ignored it. You failed to address a single point and are refusing to cite evidence which supports you. My assumption is that you do this because you are unable to properly analyse an academic paper and are also unable to provide confirmatory data to support your hypothesis. As I have provided evidence for a temporal dimension I shall continue referring to it. If you insist on your repetitions then I suggest you do likewise and find some evidence.

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  • GMBCATASTROPHE 

    GMBCATASTROPHE 23 minutes ago

    No you have not offered evidence you are lying. Don’t hide behind a citation. If you think these morons have evidence … they don’t …. but if you are deluded that they have evidence …. they have none … but if you are so stupid as to imagine that they have evidence, lets have you put this evidence in your own words.

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  • GMBCATASTROPHE 

    GMBCATASTROPHE 20 hours ago

    …. That we cannot do this proves this hoax wrong and obviously so and even a child can see this. So the theory is held aloft by bullying and relentless lying.

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  • GMBCATASTROPHE 

    GMBCATASTROPHE 20 hours ago

    There is no two-dimensional shape. There is no four dimensional shape. The only objects in this universe are three dimensional. Nothing that lacks three dimensions exists at all.

    And I repeat. We only divide reality up into three dimensions for mathematical convenience.

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  • redchris05 

    redchris05 17 hours ago

    You might want to avoid telling that to string theorists.

    Feel free to actually answer the previous question.

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  • GMBCATASTROPHE 

    GMBCATASTROPHE 17 hours ago

    String theorists are just more loony toons. But the problem of just talking straight nonsense in terms of taking features from entities and transferring them where they don’t belong …. this came about with Einstein and his zionist buddies and the way that Jews make cult figures out of eachother.

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  • redchris05 

    redchris05 16 hours ago

    You are, yet again, avoiding the question I asked you. Here it is again:

    Why would galaxies be constrained to one area of space/one specific direction?

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  • GMBCATASTROPHE 

    GMBCATASTROPHE 20 hours ago

    The universe manifestly is not four dimensional. It is three dimensional. We are not like the stars on the outside of an expanding balloon. Even if the universe was contained within a giant balloon, it is manifest that we WOULD BE INSIDE that balloon, on not on its outside surface. You were lying that time was a dimension, now you are lying and claiming that there is a fourth dimension of SPACE. I make it then that you are now claiming five dimensions. 3+1+1 =5. So why did you never say 5?…

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  • GMBCATASTROPHE 

    GMBCATASTROPHE 20 hours ago

    …. So why did you never say 5? You only talk about 4 dimensions. Then you say space is a dimension but its always 4 dimensions and now you are claiming another dimension of space just to try and pull off your big bang hoax. Well I know why its always 4 and its never 5 because these are conman tricks.

    Jews cannot even get simple maths right. In this story 3+1+1 still equals 4. And in their holocaust hoax 6 million minus 3 million still equals 6 million.

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  • redchris05 

    redchris05 17 hours ago

    The balloon – see if you can follow this – is a TWO-DIMENSIONAL representation of what happens to THREE-DIMENSIONAL space. Just because you have trouble telling the difference doesn’t make it any less accurate or correct. I’m hoping you’re trolling, otherwise you may be the first human to have a negative IQ.

    Incidentally, I included time as a dimension because it, in fact IS. There are four dimensions and time is one of them and these are the four to which I referred. Try to keep up.

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    GMBCATASTROPHE 17 hours ago

    No it not. In three-dimensional space you are ON THE INSIDE OF THE BALLOON. The usual charlatan fraud that the usual suspects try on is they try to stooge the public that the stars are on the outside surface of the balloon. Whereas all evidence points to the setup being in three-dimensional space (which would be akin to the stars being inside the balloon) and no evidence ever surfaced otherwise.

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  • GMBCATASTROPHE 

    GMBCATASTROPHE 1 day ago

    I”m still listening to this idiot and he has absolutely no fucking idea about the scientific method at all. Dawkins used to have a lot of cache 20 years ago. It has to be admitted that he is still very fast on his feet. Of course I’d have to still admit that he’s a very intelligent man. But this boneheaded acceptance of the big bang and all this really bad science surely has tarnished him image so severely. I used to think he was so much smarter then me. Now I perceive him as less smart.

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    GMBCATASTROPHE 1 day ago

    I watched it all and its just embarrassing. Yes he is a great public speaker “The Woody Allen Of Cosmology” as one tarnished intellectual put it. But he’s not got any evidence for any of his mainstream crapola. I’m happy he opposed string theory. I guess he’s got his revenue stream, he’s got his history of acne and no future if he fucks with his gravy-train, so he couldn’t be a scientist no matter what.

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  • redchris05 

    redchris05 1 day ago

    Why do you assume that ANYTHING existed? Your implication that the big bang was an effect is misplaced, as there was no temporal dimension in which a “cause” could be said to precede it.

    Interestingly, the latest map of the CMBR shows a cool patch which is wholly consistent with the effects of a collision with another universe. Won’t this be fun to examine?

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  • GMBCATASTROPHE 

    GMBCATASTROPHE 1 day ago

    There was no big bang you dickhead. Nor any evidence for a big bang. You are supposed to be talking science. Should you wish to talk Jew fantasy talk Jew fantasy but there was never a big bang nor the shadow of a skerritt of a scintilla of evidence for it.

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    redchris05 21 hours ago

    The I assume you have a valid explanation for the CMB, which is looking a little more detailed these days. Then you can explain why galaxies are receding at a greater rate the further away they are. Off you go…

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    GMBCATASTROPHE 21 hours ago

    What the fuck do you think stars do all day? Are you claiming that space has to be zero degrees Kelvin? Why? People always knew there would be background warmth because back before the big bang lockdown, people weren’t insane. The big bang advocates were noted for being way wrong in their estimates. Plus the idea that this background is everywhere simply is not proven. We would have to get out of our solar system then check again.

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  • redchris05 

    redchris05 20 hours ago

    Since we have moved through space since the first time it was measured, and the measurements – at the same resolution – are identical then YOU are required to demonstrate why this would not be so in other locations.

    Space is not at 0K because temperature is a measure of particle velocity, so the fact that space has a small amount of travelling particles means it will have a temperature above 0. Note that the CMB does not match modern star locations.

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  • GMBCATASTROPHE 

    GMBCATASTROPHE 20 hours ago

    “Space is not at 0K because temperature is a measure of particle velocity, so the fact that space has a small amount of travelling particles means it will have a temperature above 0. Note that the CMB does not match modern star locations”

    That was never the assumption. No scientist prior to the big bang being locked in as dogma ever assumed that. Why would they? Presumably background warmth is retained in the aether. The existence of the aether is proven by the nature of light and gravity.

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    redchris05 20 hours ago

    “The existence of the aether is proven by the nature of light and gravity.”

    EVIDENCE you fucking retard. Where is it? What data confirms the existence of a substance which has been soundly disproven?

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    GMBCATASTROPHE 20 hours ago

    We’ll go one at a time. I’ve got total proof. Light moves in waves. Q.E.D you stupid cunt. You cannot wave NOTHING.

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    redchris05 20 hours ago

    It doesn’t “move in waves”. Each photon has a given wavelength but that is NOT THE SAME THING. You are confusing waves of particles with the dualitf fundamental particles and this is something which anyone with a rudimentary knowledge of this subject would no do.

    Are you simply misunderstanding this subject or have you assumed that you already knew it all and did not need to learn it? You sound exactly like the latter, but I’m willing to accept the former.

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    GMBCATASTROPHE 20 hours ago

    No light moves in waves. Don’t lie. Therefore there are no photons as advertised. Whereas most particles the charlatans talk about are hypothetical the photon is proven wrong. It categorically cannot exist or light wouldn’t move in waves.

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  • redchris05 

    redchris05 17 hours ago

    Photons have been detected innumerable times. Are you trying to claim that reality works in one particular way simply because you are unable to comprehend what ACTUALLY happens. That may be the most pathetic thing I have ever encountered: Look up the Photoelectric Effect and admit you are wrong. Either that or a large number of scientists have been lying over the last century or so; in which case, prove them wrong.

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    GMBCATASTROPHE 17 hours ago

    Photons have never been detected you are lying. And they are explicitly ruled out as advertised by the wave nature of light. A child can see this. And yes the scientists who have followed the mainstream cult of Einstein, as they have had to do to be employed, are indeed full of shit. No photon has ever been detected.

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    e102ewan 17 hours ago

    The photon thing is just a model so it is very unclear what point you’re trying to make.

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  • GMBCATASTROPHE 

    GMBCATASTROPHE 16 hours ago

    Well tell dopey that its just a model?????? Why bring me that news? Thats what I say as well and its a bad model that gets in the way. But they are a matter of dogmatic faith to the Jew RedChris05. So you agree that they don’t exist? Yes or no?

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    e102ewan 16 hours ago

    Yes

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  • redchris05 

    redchris05 17 hours ago

    It doesn’t “move” in waves though, does it? The wave aspect of light is not the same as a wave of particles because there is no particulate matter through which it can travel. Electromagnetic waves are not mechanical in nature.

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    GMBCATASTROPHE 16 hours ago

    Well clearly there is an aether. And no I would not suggest that the aether is particles in its nature. That gravity propagates instantaneously proves that all nucleons are connected directly or indirectly to every other. Hence while in comparison to a proton the aether may be tiny, still there aren’t individual and distinct particles in the strictest sense. Well actually there probably is. But being in the gravity network proves continual connection.

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    redchris05 15 hours ago

    And now we resort to changing the subject to disguise our lack of both knowledge and a sufficient response. Bravo.

    Gravity does NOT propagate instantly; it travels at the same universal constant as light:

    Taylor, Edwin F. and Wheeler, John Archibald, Spacetime Physics, 2nd edition, 1991, p. 12.

    Feel free to state why this analysis is incorrect, assuming you can read it.

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  • GMBCATASTROPHE 

    GMBCATASTROPHE 14 hours ago

    NO gravity DOES NOT propagate at light speed. This is a lie. It propagates instantly for all practical purposes. Don’t confuse reality with Jew lies. The study is without evidence that gravity propagates at c.

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  • GMBCATASTROPHE 

    GMBCATASTROPHE 20 hours ago

    Can we move on from the aether yet? The behaviour of light already has that one proven. Can we move on?

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    redchris05 17 hours ago

    Why reply to the same comment twice when what you said 1) had no valid contribution and 2) could have been said in a single text box?

    Do you know what evidence means?

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    GMBCATASTROPHE 20 hours ago

    We don’t have a sensor out there. We simply cannot verify this matter from a sensor on earth. We need to be out there well away from our own star and its pent-up electrical capacitance.

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    redchris05 20 hours ago

    We’ve measured it for years and the earth has orbited the sun, while the solar system has continued to orbit the galaxy. If this radiation was due to a particular arrangement of stars it would have changed in the interim. Explain.

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  • GMBCATASTROPHE 

    GMBCATASTROPHE 20 hours ago

    No it wouldn’t have. You are not entitled to reach such a dogmatic conclusion. This is Jew talk. Trying to lock in the dogma without ever coming up with evidence.

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  • redchris05 

    redchris05 20 hours ago

    The stars have moved in relation to the earth, so it SHOULD have changed if your claims were true. Thus, they are not.

    Why don’t you try being specific about something for a change. Stop dodgin whenever you contradict yourself and actually try to clarify your hypothesis. Then we can show you exactly how incorrect it is.

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  • GMBCATASTROPHE 

    GMBCATASTROPHE 20 hours ago

    What should have changed? The speed of light? Yes I imagine that can change according to aether conditions and we would never know. We don’t have experiments going on in the territory between two galaxies. We can only clock light-speed under the conditions we find ourselves in.

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  • redchris05 

    redchris05 17 hours ago

    The CMB image should be different as we are seeing the supposed cause of it differently. If stars are the cause then it would have changed since we first mapped it. On the other hane, if it was the afterglow of the big bang then it would simply have lost a fractional amount of intensity as the photons became more stretched by expanding space. It should thus appear the same, but marginally cooler. Guess which is right?

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  • GMBCATASTROPHE 

    GMBCATASTROPHE 17 hours ago

    You don’t get to dictate to the universe. We don’t know how the CMB “should be” or even how it is. We need to have sensors outside the solar system to ascertain this. What we do know is that we cannot have zero Kelvin space since the stars are at work 24/7 and no pre-banger declared otherwise. There are no such thing as photons. This is explicitly ruled out by the wave nature of light. Stop lying about photons. Zero tolerance for Jew lies.

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    redchris05 17 hours ago

    If it was due to the stars then the fact that their relative positions have cxhanged in the measurement time means that the radiation should have altered too. Why is this incorrect reasoning? Try actually explaining something, as opposed to simply saying “NO!. ..dogmatic…Jews…cunt…dog­matic…dogmatic…dogmatic” incessantly. Why should the CMBR remain the same when the cause has changed?

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  • GMBCATASTROPHE 

    GMBCATASTROPHE 16 hours ago

    We don’t have a bloke at Alpha Centauri with a stopwatch and a sensor to test this sort of thing out. But I do imagine that light-speed changes with conditions, and in fact we know this to be true in experiments.

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  • redchris05 

    redchris05 15 hours ago

    Well measurements actually show that it is constant in any given substance: it’s veocity does not vary in identical environments. Since we are measuring its velocity through a vacuum, again, why should it vary when travelling through the same medium (empty space)?

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  • GMBCATASTROPHE 

    GMBCATASTROPHE 14 hours ago

    Right but its a vacuum with an aether. And aether conditions could vary far from earth. Like between galaxies for example. The aethers existence is proven by the wave nature of light.

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  • michael delaney 

    michael delaney 5 days ago

    If the Earth loses its Moon it would be like clipping the wings of a bird in flight

    Or like pulling the fat out of a whale and just leaving muscle and bone

    The Moon moves away from Earth and it has been doing so for some time because of the nature of its composition

    Earth, Venus and Mercury all have average densities in the 5 range but the Moon should orbit around Jupiter or Saturn

    The only reason the moon is this close to the sun is because it is the wings of our planet

    Venus lost its wings

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  • MikeGibsonSG 

    MikeGibsonSG 5 days ago

    This is your universe? Never mind then. I don’t live there.

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  • GMBCATASTROPHE 

    GMBCATASTROPHE 4 days ago

    What exactly are you in denial of? That the global warming fraud is a clear top down science fraud? That special relativity is the childish ravings of idiots? It doesn’t matter what trade the traditional enemies of truth dominate. They will systematically corrupt that trade every time.

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    GMBCATASTROPHE 4 days ago

    I’m an atheist you moron. Quite different from you chosen sand-nigger.

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  • Herman (Dusty) Rhodes 

    Herman (Dusty) Rhodes 3 days ago

    Einstein was a clerk. … Science is not all wrong but we have to study the Bible to see what they have right. What science has right is very interesting.

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  • Herman (Dusty) Rhodes 

    Herman (Dusty) Rhodes 3 days ago

    If you line up a string of tooth picks end to end for 5 miles, and expand each one, 1/1000th of an inch, the end tooth pick will actually move ahead 16 feet in the same amount of time it took the tooth picks to expand. So if there was an invisible structure throughout the universe and each leg of the structure expanded a microscopic measurement, you would see exactly what we see. The farther away you look, the faster everything would be moving away in all directions. The structure=laws of nature

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    GMBCATASTROPHE 3 days ago

    Right. But toothpicks are matter. And in your example it’s the toothpicks that have expanded and not space. I see all matter as being in constant direct or indirect contact with all other matter. It has to be that way or gravity could not propagate instantaneously. I think most orbits tend to grow and I think this is because new matter comes into play with the velocity of the matter around it, adding to total momentum. So I see a slowly expanding universe.

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    michael delaney 1 week ago

    what happened?

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    VCubestudios 1 week ago

    8:58

    The earth, much like the theory, blew up in his face.

    I believe the word is PWND

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  • MegaMDAT 

    MegaMDAT 1 week ago

    If a red giant has insufficient core temperatures to fuse carbon,carbon and oxygen will build up inside of it.Helium-4 fuses to carbon and oxygen,and after the outer layers of the star are shed,this core remains.

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    GMBCATASTROPHE 1 week ago

    No this is all refuted nonsense. Stars don’t work by way of this high pressure fusion.

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    Andrew Lohbihler 1 week ago

    The science of Plate Tectonics has become like a political party. Where as if you are not part of the party caucus of PT theory then you are branded as an outsider. PT theory does not explain a lot, and there are many holes in the theory, so in effect the party caucus is wrong, but the members still want the party to survive. Science is not a democracy, so party votes do not count.

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    MegaMDAT 1 week ago

    This argument was interesting,and I hope you do well in the future.You can very well change physics,but only if you provide observational evidence,hard facts and back up your theories.But nothing has proven plate tectonics wrong,and that is a theory that is not wrong.Goodbye,and do well in the future.I will go for for now,and I leave you with my questions.Bye.

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    GMBCATASTROPHE 1 week ago

    Plate tectonics was always wrong since it was physically impossible.

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    sathearn 1 week ago

    In case you missed them last night, I refer you to my rsponse to ginckgo’s response to your query about accreted terranes on an expanding Earth – already burried about 1/3 down the all-comments-view page. But fare thee well.

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    MegaMDAT 1 week ago

    Can you post them again?

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  • MegaMDAT 

    MegaMDAT 1 week ago

    But data and real evidence is not what nealadams provides.Plate tectonics has not been refuted,and there is also no evidence that features on earth were made by expansion.Nor in the solar system.I hope you do well,but Plate tectonics is supported by topological,satellite,geophysi­cal and geological evidence.I leave you with that.Good day.

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  • GMBCATASTROPHE 

    GMBCATASTROPHE 1 week ago

    You are talking nonsense. Adams provides convergent evidence amounting to total proof. If you cannot get it right after his clear demonstrations you aren’t getting anything right in a century of Sundays. The problem is one of epistemology. Yours.

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  • michael delaney 

    michael delaney 1 week ago

    you leave me with nothing, well I didnt expect anything if that makes you feel better about yourself

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  • MegaMDAT 

    MegaMDAT 1 week ago

    I just came here out of boredom.

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  • MegaMDAT 

    MegaMDAT 1 week ago

    Well,this has gone off topic.Unless I see some evidence,by observation or some peer reviewed papers then I cannot believe a single thing you are saying.I know you want to change physics,and that is possible,but nobody will take your words without skepticism if you can convince them so.Hard facts are the best weapon you have,and you won’t get them without observable science.Expanding earth is not one of them.I cannot argue with you unless you present more than conjecture.

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    GMBCATASTROPHE 1 week ago

    Peer review and citations. This is what the traditional enemies of Logos have done. They’ve turned science into a centrally controlled rabbinical debating society. What matters is evidence and reasons. Not peer review and citations. You know the broad facts about physics, the broad facts about dinosaurs, and the observational facts about the universe, implying that matter has to be made on location. Maxlow’s pHd thesis qualifies but it won’t help you in your error if you have rejected science

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  • MegaMDAT 

    MegaMDAT 1 week ago

    Metals can easily survive such temperatures.Lava is 2100 Fahrenheit.

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    MegaMDAT 1 week ago

    In the case of the earth,it is convection in the iron core that makes the magnetic field.Rotation does not actually play a part in a dynamo.

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  • GMBCATASTROPHE 

    GMBCATASTROPHE 1 week ago

    How do you know that this is the case for large spherical bodies? Where does the electrical flow wind up? Electricity usually goes around in a cycle. Which is why I don’t get anywhere wiring up the positive end of one battery to the negative of another. How is it that in the case of the earth the electricity seems to just flow to earth and disappear? If all large spherical bodies that have a magnetic field also have at least one moon and are rotating I’m going to suspect that this is necessary

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    MegaMDAT 1 week ago

    The core does not lose heat.A core must convect to lose heat.

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    michael delaney 1 week ago

    if you are running and you stop running heat rises and one perspires, stop the BS

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Posted by: graemebird | April 18, 2013

Good News From Anthony Pratt.

Not all billionaires are evil and not everything a billionaire says is wrong. Anthony Pratt has put forth a plan to massively expand Australias food production.  He’s come up with an industry plan which ought to be adopted, but with a sole trader slant.

Note too the excellence of his suggestions. He wants us to make Australia a food bowl for Asia. He correctly sees high food prices in the future, and he correctly says, unlike the retards at Catallaxy that this requires an industry plan and to work we need to make this a national priority.

Catallaxians are so retarded when they hear the phrase “industry plan” an whole string of associations goes through their little minds that may or may not have anything to do with the proposal at hand. They reject industry plans out of hand. They reject industry plans out of hand because they are Jews so their mentality is “TO REJECT THE PHRASE”….

….But although Anthony outrageously at one point mentions “incentives” (Jew code word for a form of theft) the key to Anthony’s plan on the surface of things are the ideas to do with accelerated depreciation and payroll tax exemptions.

Subsidies are no good for very clear reasons. This is not understood at Catallaxy where subsidies are rejected ideologically without any understanding of the matter. Which is the way that Jews tend to operate. The lunatic Jews at Catallaxy think that subsidies could work, but if they don’t,  it means that we have some sort of cosmic problem with “comparative advantage” in this particular industry. It is true that subsidies are never any good. Because they incentivise current production over long-term business renovation. They encourage debt accumulation instead of wealth production through patient retained earnings. And they leave a hell of a mess when the subsidy ends.  But being Judaized or Jews or just plain retarded when a Catallaxian notes that the car industry has been subsidised and its not successful they remember a concept that they learned but never understood called “comparative advantage.” And the superstitious way they think about this comparative advantage …. the superstitious way that Jews tend to think about all concepts …. Comes out in full force with the Catallaxian version of what comparative advantage is supposed to mean ……

……….. its as if this phrase depicts a giant ghost flying over our continent, like the anti-Santa, and there he goes from industry to industry. Unlike Santa he’s a Demonic Jew Ghost rather than a German Saint, so he doesn’t come to give us things, he comes to take things away from us like a good Jew.  So here is this ghost of comparative advantage flying over rural towns, and glaring at people through the tiles on the roofs of their houses.

See the demonic Jew ghost of comparative advantage. He haunts the nation giving some folks the thumbs down and just a few of them the thumbs up. The ones that the Catallaxian Satanic figure (The ghost of comparative advantage) gives the thumbs up to ….. are those businesses that are scrapping local manufacturing and sending it all off to some Asian country, or that are going into debt to buy up commercial real estate or are selling off mines that they have fandangled certain “rights to” by virtue of their capacity to game the horridly complex and dysfunction mineral rights systems that we have in this potential paradise.

The Fellow On The Left Is The Demonic Jewish “Ghost of Catallaxian Comparative Advantage.” 

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Here he battles a notable gentile to see if Australia will be stupid enough to sell off even more of its strategic and natural resources, to foreign corporations and foreign governments. This is what Jews want because Jews are traitors, who inflict malicious damage on their benefactors, and see to it that bankers pick up as much of the economic rent as is conceivable,  from off the table. All their policies without exception are designed to further this goal. 

Anyway this article is such interesting news it deserves a straight cut and post.  But any such scheme ought not be about international bigshots coming in and buying all our agricultural paternity. So if you don’t want to see that outcome get involved in this debate. But be civilised. No fucking subsidies …. And long-term tax exemptions are NOT FUCKING SUBSIDIES no matter how much a Jew over at Catallaxy tells you to the contrary.

One measure (the subsidy) emphasises a fleeting gold-mine, haste, and compliance.  Another measure ((long-term tax exemptions …. but particularly on retained earnings)) CAN (if applied properly) can emphasise patient and long-term business improvement.

Here is the news story:

AUSTRALIA would become a food “superpower”, capitalising on a $2 trillion export opportunity in Asia, under sweeping industry regulation and tax reforms put to a global food forum today.

In a speech delivered at The Australian and The Wall Street Journal’s inaugural Global Food Forum in Melbourne, billionaire packaging and recycling magnate Anthony Pratt today called for sweeping changes that would allow Australia to quadruple its exports and feed 200 million people.

The Visy Industries executive chairman also called for a new “coalition of the willing”, comprising federal, state and local governments, to put the national interest above political, sectional and regional interests and save the embattled food manufacturing industry.

At the conference, Victorian Premier Denis Napthine was also to reveal that Melbourne will stage the first Boao Forum for Asia conference on food security next year, bringing Asia’s business and government leaders to Australia to discuss the nation’s role in Asia’s looming food supply crisis.

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The secretary-general of the prestigious annual forum, Zhou Wenzhong, has this week written to Dr Napthine expressing the Boao board’s approval for the forum, noting that the topic of food security addresses “one of the key challenges facing the Asian region”.

A US government-funded study released this week found that food production would have to rise by 60 per cent by 2050 just to keep pace with expected global population increases and changing demands. The middle class in Asia is forecast to grow from 500 million to three billion consumers over the coming decades, and Australia will have almost 20 times more arable land per capita than China, India and Indonesia.

Mr Pratt says that feeding “a hungry world” will be Australia’s “greatest responsibility and opportunity in the 21st century”.

“We can quadruple our exports to feed 200 million people,” he told today’s forum. “We can bring together rich natural resources, innovative research and development, smart investors and risk-taking farming and manufacturing entrepreneurs.”

Mr Pratt argued that transitioning from a “mining boom” to a “dining boom” will require changes in competition laws to allow consolidation among rural companies and the suspension of payroll tax for food manufacturers, as well as government incentives for innovation in agriculture.

He also wants accelerated depreciation for new manufacturing investments in food and for Australia to follow the American example on anti-dumping practices by putting the burden of proof on the offending party to prove “they are not doing it”.

Australia produces more food than it needs – enough to feed 60 million people a year.

Last month, a leaked Coalition discussion paper revealed its vision of developing a food bowl in northern Australia that could double Australia’s agricultural output by adding flexibility to land-use controls and reducing unnecessary regulation and approval processes.

ANZ and consultancy firm Port Jackson Partners said last year that Australia could capture up to $1.7 trillion in additional revenues from agriculture exports between now and 2050 if it seized the opportunity of the Asia food boom.

Comparing the contrasting plights of the food and car industries when it comes to government subsidies and community concern, Mr Pratt said: “In recent years, we have lost significant capacity in regional abattoirs, fruit and vegetable processing, flour milling, and baked goods, to mention just a few. And these losses, including many iconic brand names, such as Heinz and SPC, have received relatively little attention.

“But the food industry decline has had a bigger impact than the close-down of car factories. The irony is that we have a competitive advantage in food manufacture. We don’t have that competitive advantage in producing cars.”

(site deity: Coming fairly close to the ignorant Catallaxian concept of comparative advantage. But his phrasing is more static.  So its at least a factual statement.)

BHP Billiton chairman and former Ford global chief executive Jac Nasser warned last week that the demise of Australian car manufacturing was inevitable.

Dairy giant Murray Goulburn revealed last week it would spend $120 million on building two new fresh milk processing plants, in Sydney and Laverton, after striking a $2 billion 10-year deal with supermarket giant Coles to provide fresh milk for Victoria and NSW markets.

While Murray Goulburn is promising better prices for its dairy farmers as a result of the deal, its critics claim it has simply locked in lower milk prices for farmers that will only make it harder for the industry.

Last July, the federal government launched Australia’s first national food plan, aimed at shaping the nation’s direction on food production and exports.

Dr Napthine, who in June will lead a super trade mission to Indonesia, Malaysia and Singapore, believes the primary focus of the federal government should be to urgently conclude a free trade agreement between China and Australia.

“This has long been a critical barrier to many of Victoria’s leading food industries, particularly dairy, which has a distinct disadvantage relative to their New Zealand counterparts,” was to tell the forum.

“A free trade agreement must be our No 1 priority in our economic relationship with China. The time for Australia to act is now if food exports are to be the next engine room of growth for the Victorian and Australian economies.”

(((site deity notes: Free trade can work. But NOT free investment. This is not acceptable in a world of ponzi-finance and artificial exchange systems.  Nor when the other partner is a budding superpower, nor when Jew economist designed policy has ordained that we lose all equity, get more and more in debt and lose our absolute advantage in manufacturing and food production.  Worst of all would be “selling off the farm” that is to say selling off our farms to foreign corporations.  Over at Catallaxy they call communist nationalisation of our gear “Free Enterprise.” This is because they are Jews or Judaized. They cannot be reasoned with.))

Mr Pratt urged the food business sector to become more pro-active in helping governments “find their way through the inevitable compromises” in trade talks. “At the same time, our governments have to reach out more to the food business sector, from farmhouse gate to the table, and involve them in the hard international talk right from the outset,” he said.

(site deity: Emphasised to note that Anthony Pratt is full of shit when he says the phrase “free trade.” Free trade is not trade talks or government agreements or cronies getting involved with those “free trade” talks. What is there to talk about? They can sell their stuff without tariffs but that doesn’t mean they need to set up shop here. We can sell our stuff to them without tariffs and this implies nothing else, no deals, no investment rights in this country for the communists or anything else.)

Seventy per cent of Visy’s customers are in food and drink, and an increase in food manufacture would increase demand for its packaging products. Visy is the key sponsor of today’s conference. Visy recently revealed plans to double the revenues it generates from Asia over the next decade by setting up manufacturing plants in many Southeast Asian countries and using a new trading company to sell more products to meet demand in the region.

That is where the news story ends.

Now the bad news is this. Anthony Pratt is a Jew.  So that puts the odds on it that his plan will be skewed so that its the financiers who get all the value in this matter and the best that Australians can hope for is to work forever paying off their loans to get into this business, and that almost all of them will be working in corporations where the land and other natural resources are nominally owned by foreigners, but more fundamentally owned by the international money creators.

Anthony would not be a good Jew if he didn’t nuance this plan to screw us over in this exact fashion.

We will not have to look far for Anthony’s slant on this matter. Its right there in the short article.  I’m going to bring a paragraph down and emphasise it.  When you read it I want you to read it with two hats.

1. Put on your hat which imagines that this is the perfect egalitarian small government system, where ponzi-usury is outlawed, there are no artificial persons. Where taxes are on total assets after a threshold and total revenues after a threshold.

2. Then view this suggestion of Anthony’s again, not in terms of Classical British/Austrian/semi-Georgist economic theory (that is to say excellent economic theory) But rather in terms of the Jew-designed ponzi-Usury system we have today.

Work your way through the implications where the PRODUCERS are the kings, versus where the MONEY-CREATOR and his favoured mates are the kings. Where will the economic rent wind up in both cases? How will that pan out for wealth production in either case?  Don’t expect me to give you the answers right away. But dwell on it. Think of how radically different are the consequences for the distribution of the economic rent, and for what is thereafter DONE WITH the economic rent. I’ll give the answers by and by if someone asks me a few questions. Here is the part of the Jew Anthony’s plan I refer too:

Mr Pratt argued that transitioning from a “mining boom” to a “dining boom” will require changes in competition laws to allow consolidation among rural companies….

Posted by: graemebird | April 16, 2013

Arguing With The Chosen Ones.

Jewish individuals are of course good, bad or indifferent.  But Judaism is a force for pure evil.  Now  should that be such a controversial statement? Yes because its mixed up with the idea of race, and with the nastiness that the Jew Adolf Hitler brought to us, when him and his crypto-Jew mates transmuted Talmudic thinking into German Nationalism, as deep cover for their true mission (malicious damage to the German people and German culture).  It was said of Napoleon that he took six inches off the height of every Frenchman.  The Jewish bankers and their Jewish frontmen (Churchill, Roosevelt, Stalin and Hitler) did the same for the Germans, who had always been amongst the taller people of the world but were starved two times by the British in the twentieth century and carpet-bombed unmercifully. Them and the Japanese the only real holocaust of the period if by “holocaust” we mean “burnt sacrificial offering”.

Germany had such a beautiful culture before the Jews turned on their benefactors. This is what Jews do.  But the decision-makers in this story are only the Jewish elite.  Your normal Jew is even more controlled then the rest of us.  The elite control the normal Jews, so they can lay down strategic markers.  In so doing, they can control ALL OF US. But in some ways the normal Jew is the least blameworthy amongst us because he is the most controlled. In other ways he is more blameworthy because he has succumbed to the sin of pride. He has accepted that he is a “chosen one.”

We are gentlemen and sheilas. Gentlemen.  I said GENTILE men. And knowing that the vast majority of Jews are in some ways even less blameworthy for the current state of affairs then you and I  (but in some ways more blameworthy) we cannot fall into this pattern of just taking it out on a Khazar civilian.  We have to get online and shake these controlled ninkompoops out of their chosen-one torpor.  Let me show you how this is done.

Now the thing is I’ve only been anti-Judaism a few months. So whereas on matters that I’ve been dwelling on for thirty years I have in the past felt I could come up with new ideas, or present certain ideas in a new and nifty way, here I am still finding my feet.  Very very many of my intellectual culture-heroes have been Jewish.  But looking back on it they have always been SHUNNED-JEWISH.  Shunned by the mainstream and shunned by the Jews. Which now amounts to the same thing.

There used to be this tee-shirt around during the Reagan Era.  Worn proudly by soldier of fortune magazine types and people who came out of the tail end of Vietnam intact.

Because Reagan was such a wonderful commander-in-chief.  One of the best since the days of Nelson and Wellington. I mean really he was OUTSTANDING.  Since he was so outstanding and so careful the American whoop-ass had been built up so big but hardly ever deployed in violence.  Deployed JUST-ENOUGH to show that the old man “meant business” but no more then that.

So because of this the prestige of the American Marines was sky-high.

So this tee-shirt that the older tough-guys would wear was a GRIM REAPER TEE-SHIRT.

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And under the beckoning visage of the stranger who is no stranger were the words :

“I WAS KILLING

WHEN KILLING WASN’T COOL”

Well just to prove that though many if not most of my intellectual heroes were Jewish I can honestly say that:

“I DUG MILTON FRIEDMAN

BEFORE MILTON FRIEDMAN WAS TAKEN MAINSTREAM”

Same with Rand. Same with Murray.  And of course our greatest living economist: George Reisman. A true hero BUT THESE JEWS WERE ALL FUCKING OUTCASTS when they were heroes of mine.

My point is that since the vast number of Jews are more controlled then you and I, and the control of this minor horde allows the elite entrenched unearned gentile wealth and the elite Jews control the rest of us, by laying down strategic markers, then it is unjust and futile to take physical action against all but the tiniest and most wealthiest of this tribe.  If he’s not a billionaire and culpable both he isn’t a fair target. And taking his wealth is obviously more productive then taking his life.

Spare his life, but don’t spare him from the lash or from the loss of his billions all the way down to 20 million maximum and even then he has to be out of the business of public influence for all time.

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

When we can take the billions off the billionaire families and put them in the short pants jobs for seven generations, that will be a great day indeed. But what do we do for now? The idea is to get online and shake the average zombie-Jew out of his average chosen-one zombie torpor.

Just get online and argue with the bastard.

As I said before I’m still finding my feet on this one. So I must credit most of my good one-liners and excellent arguments to Mark Glenn and his network and also to one of my new culture heroes; E(ugene) Michael Jones.

Any well-worded arguments, or excellent turns of phrase, can probably be attributed to these two gentile-men, or in Marks case some of his associates.  Any plodding argument or one-liner that doesn’t quite make it is probably my own.

Not like when I knew the subject and stewed over it for years. Back in the old days at Catallaxy I could invent new phrases that would catch on and prove that they were original to me.  Not on this subject. I’m still on shaky ground on this subject. I’m still finding my feet so I’ve been plagiarising endlessly so I thought I needed a thread to give credit where credit is due.

STANDING ON SHAKY GROUND, BUT FAKIN’-IT

WIT’ ALL DEM PIMP MOVES. 

Below  you will see me arguing with the chosen-ones.  This is what the rest of you ought to take time out to do. Argue with normal JEW-ZOMBIES, and try to shake them awake.  Remember that these normal JEW-ZOMBIES have daughters and sisters and if we cannot shake them awake then other less gentile folks could humiliate or even hurt their daughters, sisters, mothers, or even humiliate THE CHOSEN-ONE BLOKES further then the hammering of a few righteous home truths ought to do. Or further then what is necessary to try and push matters in the direction of the logos and of truth and righteousness.

Below is a cut and paste from one of my areas of disputation on the net:

  • fortunanike 22 minutes ago

    The Jews have wanted Palestine for centuries, because they think if they find a way to get rid of the dome of the rock, and take possession of Gods magic rock, they will have special powers. All the trouble, all the killing, all the US funding, is just so a bunch of silly smelly beardy Jews can build a temple on the magic rock, and sacrifice animals so god can have a drink of blood. Strange but true.

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  • Phil Gibbons 

    Phil Gibbons 1 hour ago

    So the rogue state celebrates 65 years of theft and oppression. It is fervently hoped that it will cease to exist before the 66th. Time for one person one vote. Time for the return of ethnically cleansed Palestinians. Time for an end to racism and murder.

    I saw Netanyahu celebrating war crimes against human beings and pretending it was some kind of celebration of righteous behavior.

    Let’s have justice in the world and put him and all leading Zionists before the International Criminal Court.

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    MikeGibsonSG 52 minutes ago

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  • TodayistTv 

    TodayistTv 2 hours ago

    galloway is full of shit frm a different angel and I am pro palestine and anti war

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  • GMBCATASTROPHE 

    GMBCATASTROPHE 3 hours ago

    Where is this myth that hatred for what the Jewish elite do is inherent? “In The DNA” as it were? The reality is that Jews have been spreading this cockamamie bullshit as long as there have been Jews. It is not inherent behavior it’s LEARNED BEHAVIOR and by Yahweh I can prove it. You’ve been thrown out at least 109 times. Which means YOU”BEEN LET IN at least 110 times. Q.E.D..

    Isn’t it about time you chosen ones took a good long hard look at yourselves?

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  • Boaz Senator 

    Boaz Senator 4 hours ago

    like his arab friends , signor Galloway id “highly democratic”" ahah, how certain left chic radicals go along with islam-arab Fascism

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  • GMBCATASTROPHE 

    GMBCATASTROPHE 3 hours ago

    I don’t think you can claim that he’s not sincere about democracy. The problem is the system has been gamed. If the money creation network can basically steal off everyone else and effectively own the mainstream media then what is the use of a free press? What does it matter a vote? The elite, dominated by Jews, ruins all things.

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  • Boaz Senator 

    Boaz Senator 4 hours ago

    ignorant!! nothing more…ignorant poor little Galloway

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  • iwishicouldflysohigh 

    iwishicouldflysohigh 5 hours ago

    Well said that man! Keep it up G!

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  • 247BRIDGE 

    247BRIDGE 12 hours ago

    Now coming more interesting. God loves the whole world regardless of whether you have a religion or not. Religion saves nobody. Religion, even the religious form of christianity (this form being an aberration), is just rituals without a living, real relationship with God. I live, move and have my being in Christ Jesus and have no affiliation to religion. God’s wisdom is bigger than what the head of any man can handle. He’s got a reason for choosing Israel as a ground for His seed (Messiah)

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  • Squarerig 

    Squarerig 13 hours ago

    To all correspondents who have participated in this hilarious exchange of views-and in Macabi’s case,insults-my thanks.I am bowing out of the arena,my head bloodied but unbowed.Israel is the lynchpin of the axis of evil,of this there is no doubt and her bloodstained days are clearly numbered.It has been truly great fun and provided me with considerable amusement.Macabi can’t answer my questions so I am ceasing to perplex this confused little Jew.Farewell Friends and Foes!

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  • Drew Smith 

    Drew Smith 13 hours ago

    Im atheist so im probly not welcome here but in my opinion Galloway is full of complete shit and he’s a twat.

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  • GMBCATASTROPHE 

    GMBCATASTROPHE 6 hours ago

    Maybe he just understands Israeli behavior better than you? Did you think about that? Mainstream media is highly geared. Making the true owners the merchants of debt. But a look at the presumed owners editors and journalists gives one the impression that its too-heavy in chosen-one influence even before financial reality steps in. We are talking about the Jew Murdoch and his loyal Jew opposition. With advantages like that Beezlebub himself could project as a poor put-upon at a pity party.

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  • Phil Gibbons 

    Phil Gibbons 2 hours ago

    What an erudite comment for a moron!

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  • MissPiurple 

    MissPiurple 16 hours ago

    If aggression against Israel stopped today, the Israelis would happily go about their business and continue living productive lives. If, on the other hand, the Israelis laid down their arms and announced that, henceforth, they would take no military action against those who hate them, Israel’s cities would be burning within a week. If you can’t see the self-evident truth of either assertion, you are a fool. If you welcome the destruction of Israel at the hands of its enemies, you are a monster.

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  • GMBCATASTROPHE 

    GMBCATASTROPHE 11 hours ago

    That’s what I thought also. It’s completely wrong. The Elite actually create violence against their people in order to have a cohesive and controlled population.

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  • Phil Gibbons 

    Phil Gibbons 10 hours ago

    Israeli would go about their business OK. Yes they would continue the business of ethnic cleansing and mass murder. They don’t want peace as they have not yet stolen enough. They want talks to go on to waste time and they can build more illegal settlements This is what they call talks without preconditions.

    It will be a happy day when the Palestinian flag flies from the Knesset like the Red Flag flew from the Reichskanzlei in 1945.

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  • ty3165 

    ty3165 16 hours ago

    fuck off george

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  • leewhite82 

    leewhite82 16 hours ago

    Yes, this man is a plonker, but everything he says about Israel is true. Israel is very, very dangerous.

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    Macabi Judea 16 hours ago

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  • Squarerig 

    Squarerig 13 hours ago

    You have hit the nail on the head!Even fools sometimes speak the truth and although I really cannot stand Galloway he is correct in this matter.

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    Macabi Judea 18 hours ago

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  • irishxxkelt 

    irishxxkelt 18 hours ago

    Galloway is no diplomat. He is a windbag for the Iranians at the moment as Press TV is owned by Iranians. He is Shia Muslim but hasn’t the guts to come out and admit it.

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  • laservision1000 

    laservision1000 17 hours ago

    And you are a tiresome Jew propagandist

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  • irishxxkelt 

    irishxxkelt 17 hours ago

    And you are a tiresome as well as ignorant racist and bigot.

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  • jamesthedude1977 

    jamesthedude1977 16 hours ago

    Look. Galloway went to Iraq to try to negotiate with Saddam. He’s hardly going to go and insult the man is he? Especially a man with an ego like Saddams.

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  • irishxxkelt 

    irishxxkelt 16 hours ago

    Negotiate with Saddam about what. when Kofi Annan went.?

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  • Macabi Judea

    Macabi Judea 15 hours ago

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  • irishxxkelt 

    irishxxkelt 12 hours ago

    Am Chai Israel !

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  • Phil Gibbons 

    Phil Gibbons 10 hours ago

    May you bash each other with real 10 pound hammers on the head this year and make yourselves all incapable of being a bloody nuisance any more. You could also use Nitric acid instead of shaving cream.

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  • jurg ban 

    jurg ban 10 hours ago

    MIDDLE EAST IS MORE DANGEROUS BENG AN ARAB–ITS LIKE BEING A BLACK IN HARLEM

    YOU MUZZIE ARABS HAVE 95% CHANCE TO GETKILLE DBY ANOTHER ARAB

    NO MUSLIM WOMAN HAS TO FEAR ISRAELIS AS SHE HAS TO FEAR THIS CRAZY MUSLIMS

    A MUSLIMS WOMAN HAS AROUND 5OO MILLION MORE CHANCES TO GET KILLED BY AN ARAB MUSLIM THEN AN ISRAELI

    YOUARAB COWARDS TARGET THE WEAKEST OF YOUR SOCIETY

    YOU ARE FUCKIGN COWARDS–ALWAYS BEEN

    ONLY COWARDS LET GO HONOUR KILLINGS UNPUNISHED AS HAMAS DOES IN PALESTINE

    SAD LITTLE ARABS

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  • GMBCATASTROPHE 

    GMBCATASTROPHE 6 hours ago

    Kofi Annan? You mean the fellow who gave the order that let 1000,000 Rwandans be executed? Perhaps George understood better than you or then pro-war me how things would turn out?I thought there was a good case to remove the tyrant. But look at the catastrophic results? When things turn out to be 1000 times more bloody and expensive then what I had imagined, I like to think that I’d give those who were trying so hard for peace, a bit of credit for perhaps the situation better than me.

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  • GMBCATASTROPHE 

    GMBCATASTROPHE 6 hours ago

    …….. For perhaps understanding the situation and the players better than me. Even the better wars are bad wars. How can you mean-spirited types bs still on George’s case for wanting PEACE? Now after things have turned out?

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  • laservision1000 

    laservision1000 16 hours ago

    Yes I’m racist for telling the truth. Stop hiding and admit who you are

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  • Macabi Judea

    Macabi Judea 16 hours ago

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  • irishxxkelt 

    irishxxkelt 16 hours ago

    I AM AN BORN-AGAIN CHRISTIAN BORN IN IRELAND, LIVING IN IRELAND. IF I WAS ANYTHING ELSE I WOULD STATE IT.

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  • GMBCATASTROPHE 

    GMBCATASTROPHE 6 hours ago

    But everyone knows that Persians are some of the nicest, friendliest people you are ever going to meet. What is wrong with Iranians? Like all revolutions the 1979 coup was engineered from the outside. And the millenarian clerics were chosen so that Israel could project it’s own poxy millenarian eschatology off onto the Persians. So Iran, who hasn’t started a war in 300 years, gets the image that should belong to Israel. Meanwhile through proxies Israel murders thousands of Iranian civilians.

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  • Macabi Judea

    Macabi Judea 18 hours ago

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  • GMBCATASTROPHE 

    GMBCATASTROPHE 18 hours ago

    Thankfully their independence won’t last forever.

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    Macabi Judea 18 hours ago

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  • irishxxkelt 

    irishxxkelt 15 hours ago

    God said it would. That settles it for me…………

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  • laservision1000 

    laservision1000 15 hours ago

    Actually as a Born again (LOL), you should believe in the apocalypse and the end of the world

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  • irishxxkelt 

    irishxxkelt 12 hours ago

    I do actually. I also believe that Jesus is going to take the born-again dead and the living born-again and we will be out of the Tribulation. I also believe that when Jesus comes back again to kick arses in the Megiddo Valley we believers will be there fighting alongside Him. Roll on the Return!

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  • GMBCATASTROPHE 

    GMBCATASTROPHE 11 hours ago

    These views are the result of deliberate attempts to Judaize American Christianity. Bad theology.

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  • Phil Gibbons 

    Phil Gibbons 10 hours ago

    Idiots have been saying the same thing for centuries.

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  • Squarerig 

    Squarerig 13 hours ago

    If you say that too often you might choke!Schalom Macabi!How is the land grabbing going in Palestine?I know that jews are greedy but this greedy?

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  • StangeWorld0000 

    StangeWorld0000 19 hours ago

    Aren’t the laughs in the audience when this CLOWN leaves the room just adorable?!

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    Macabi Judea 19 hours ago

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  • Squarerig 

    Squarerig 13 hours ago

    And may it be the LAST!You will see,Macabi;your evil days are numbered;Israel is but a phantom of the fevered jewish imagination.Did this phantasmagoria arise at the wailing wall in El Quds where one can observe the strange motions of the “devout” jews rocking to and fro,working themselves into a state of delirium?I would start packling my bags if I were you,Macabi old man;there is little time left and jews are always the first to desert the sinking ship.Israel is the new Titanic!

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  • IWANTADINNERJACKET . 

    IWANTADINNERJACKET . 19 hours ago

    interesting all those shites being butchered by muxlims on muxlims and hes babbling on about how the terrorist are treated by IDF with kid gloves should show the palis a bit of saddam sharia rule and then you bastards can bitch cruelty.

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  • 4rced2speak 

    4rced2speak 20 hours ago

    Galloway tried to bring his muslim appeasement B.S. to Canada. He almost got his head kicked in & ran away back to England with his tail stuck between his legs.Lol

    That’s right George, this is CANADA…not your pussified, libeal diseased, wimpy, bend over high to take it up the ass from muslims, Britain.

    You know , the dumb country that allows muslims to curse during the 2-minute silence on remberance day and only jails the one man who tried to stop them. Disgusting show of cowardness.

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  • tontoiblis cabron 

    tontoiblis cabron 19 hours ago

    Make that England,man,in Scotland they would be fucked.

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  • 4rced2speak 

    4rced2speak 18 hours ago

    How in the fck is it that Galloway and Choudry have not been arrested yet?

    or better still..beaten?

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  • irishxxkelt 

    irishxxkelt 12 hours ago

    I believe that Gorgeous George was threatened by some Islamic group that Anjem had links to………It is on his Wikipedia profile.

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  • 4rced2speak 

    4rced2speak 12 hours ago

    Ever since they let the Lockerbie Terrorist go free I knew Britain sold out to islamic oil billionaires.

    That is why on Remberance Day muslims can shout “British Soldiers Go to Hell” during the two-minute silence and the only person the police arrest is the one man who tries to stop the muslims chanting hatred.

    I have never seen such acts of cowardness by ANY police force then what I saw that day.

    Britain is history. there will be an islamic flag flying over Buckingham.

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  • GMBCATASTROPHE 

    GMBCATASTROPHE 11 hours ago

    He was most unlikely to have been guilty. More likely this was one of our own false flags.

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  • irishxxkelt 

    irishxxkelt 18 hours ago

    Well I have been told every swear word used to describe George.

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  • Macabi Judea

    Macabi Judea 21 hours ago

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  • Squarerig 

    Squarerig 21 hours ago

    Beingt a true-blue democrat and it appearing that the majority of the commentators here are opposed to or highly critical of the state of Israel and simultaneously of the opinion that Galloway is a garrulous son of a bitch,let us,together denounce Israel and Galloway in one breath.Macabi,your days are numbered.Schalom!

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    Macabi Judea 21 hours ago

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  • Squarerig 

    Squarerig 13 hours ago

    Who is he?Is he also a Zionist Jew?

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    Macabi Judea 21 hours ago

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  • 247BRIDGE 

    247BRIDGE 22 hours ago

    Squarerig, I can’t get a true meaning for “Haman” but you can deduce and something if you read Esther from Chapter 3 to chapter 7 verse 10.

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  • Squarerig 

    Squarerig 21 hours ago

    I have read Esther many times and find it amusing!What it has to do with “god’s” word,as revealed in “holy” scripture,as it was drummed into me as a child,I cannot fathom.Once again the jews triumph even if they have,once more,”suffered”.It must really be hard work being a Jew and carrying that burden of eternal suffering around with you for millennia!

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  • GMBCATASTROPHE 

    GMBCATASTROPHE 18 hours ago

    Eternal faux-suffering. With these guys if they bomb a building full of people to get one bloke whose wronged them this is all understandable. But if a Jew gets a paper cut, as a result of the actions of a gentile, we’ll be hearing them wailing about it in 1000 years time.

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  • Macabi Judea

    Macabi Judea 18 hours ago

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  • irishxxkelt 

    irishxxkelt 15 hours ago

    So you think the Holocaust was nothing?

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  • Phil Gibbons 

    Phil Gibbons 10 hours ago

    17 million people died in the holocaust. So why do Zionists only talk about 6 million and use that as an excuse to behave like Nazis to the Palestinians.

    I guess the arrogant stealers of land regard the other 11 million as being of no importance whatsoever.

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  • jurg ban 

    jurg ban 10 hours ago

    There has never been any sovereign or independent nation of “Palestine,” never, not even for one day in history.

    The State of Israel was proclaimed by the U.N. with the full authorization of international law by a vote of 33 in favor to 13 against, you don’t get any more legal than that.

    Israel has been invaded 3 times by multiple Arab armies

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  • jurg ban 

    jurg ban 10 hours ago

    . Take a look at the way Israel is governed. Israel is the only western-type democracy in the entire Middle East which guarantees full rights to citizens, protects minorities, allows freedom of religion and allows LGBT rights. Israel also takes in more refugees than any other country in the middle east. Sounds a lot like Nazi Germany or South Africa eh? .

    And what ethnic cleansing? Show me proof

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  • Wolff Bachner 

    Wolff Bachner 4 hours ago

    they dont care and they wont listen to you. jew hate is in their DNA. Galloway and his ilk can go straight to hell.

    we know the truth.people like galloway can spew all the crap they want about the poor plaestiniansbut they really just hate jews because they blame them for killing some rabbi named jesus who probably never existed in the first place.

    religion kills humans.

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  • GMBCATASTROPHE 

    GMBCATASTROPHE 3 hours ago

    How can it be in my DNA. I’m almost 50 and I’ve only been apprised of the full evil of Judaism less than a year? If you were correct I’d have been aware of their villainy at least 4 decades earlier. Is there anything you are not full of shit about? Plus you have a retraction to make. Retract.

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  • Phil Gibbons 

    Phil Gibbons 2 hours ago

    You are a ridiculous Zionist moron. I continually call for democracy in Palestine instead of Zionist fascism.

    There is no crap being spewed. Zionists stole Palestine and wiped it off the map. However the Palestinian people still exist and they are still the rightful owners of the land.

    I look forward to the Palestinian flag flying from the Knesset when justice is restored and the nasty Zionist racist “Jewish State” ceases to exist. Justice in Palestine like justice in South Africa – racism gone!

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  • jurg ban 

    jurg ban 10 hours ago

    • Black September when Bedouins forces loyal to king Hussein slaughtered the Palestinians–Jordan had annexed the 80% of Palestine and went to war against PLO and Syria..the killing of Palestinian refugees was seen as a brotherly misunderstanding by most ARAB STATES–HAHAHAHALOL

    10 MILLION MUSLIMS ARABS KILLED BY MUSLIM ARABS SINCE 1945–BROTHERLY MISUNDERSTANDINGS—LOL

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  • jurg ban 

    jurg ban 10 hours ago

    It’s a known fact that the only way Islam can succeed is by defeating or subjugating their enemies. During this century they have been quite successful as reported by their own news media. Sunnis are killing Shias by the thousands and in retaliation Shias are killing Sunnis by the thousands. They have finally been able to determine who is their enemy and it is they. Google Egypt, Iran, Iraq, Afghanistan, Pakistan or any other Islamic Sharia Law country for the results. Brotherly love prevails

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  • jurg ban 

    jurg ban 10 hours ago

    It’s a known fact that the only way Islam can succeed is by defeating or subjugating their enemies. During this century they have been quite successful as reported by their own news media. Sunnis are killing Shias by the thousands and in retaliation Shias are killing Sunnis by the thousands. They have finally been able to determine who is their enemy and it is they. Google Egypt, Iran, Iraq, Afghanistan, Pakistan or any other Islamic Sharia Law country for the results. Brotherly love prevails

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  • 247BRIDGE 

    247BRIDGE 1 day ago

    God’s election is upon the jews and I have never be jealous of them.It’s sovereign will. God wants to reach out to the world through them…Just like a scientist applies theories on samples before a bigger population. If you doubt their election, check out the world today.They’ve produced more nobel laureates than all of us; they are the brains behind they success of America, economically, scientifically and military-wise- AND THAT IS AS EXTREMELY FEW AS THEY ARE, despite Hitler’s monstrous act

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  • Squarerig 

    Squarerig 21 hours ago

    More jewish Nobel Preistraeger from 18 MIo Juden than from 1,3Milliarden muslims.The numbers tell us something,don’t you agree?

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  • GMBCATASTROPHE 

    GMBCATASTROPHE 18 hours ago

    No surprise their. The Synagogue buddies just all stand around giving each-other prizes and ribbons when in sober reality they are a miserable bunch ruining every science they touch.

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  • irishxxkelt 

    irishxxkelt 15 hours ago

    The Noble prizes not handed out in a synagogue. Séamus Heaney was not awarded his Noble prize for literature in a synagogue. You are appallingly ignorant aren’t you?

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  • GMBCATASTROPHE 

    GMBCATASTROPHE 13 hours ago

    The point is that Jews are always over-promoting other Jews. Until we wind up with the ultimate in “Parkinson’s Law” (see management theory) that we have going in the US today.

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  • Peter Wolf

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  • irishxxkelt 

    irishxxkelt 18 hours ago

    Yes only 14 million and I think over 150 Nobel prizes plus other awards…….

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  • Squarerig 

    Squarerig 13 hours ago

    I have read more than 300.

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  • irishxxkelt 

    irishxxkelt 18 hours ago

    They are still the apple of God’s eye. If you harm Jews you really annoy God………

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  • GMBCATASTROPHE 

    GMBCATASTROPHE 18 hours ago

    What a lot of nonsense. These satan-worshippers would make any just God want to puke.

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  • irishxxkelt 

    irishxxkelt 15 hours ago

    You think the Jews bow down to Satan? My God you know nothing at all about Judaism!

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  • laservision1000 

    laservision1000 15 hours ago

    Jesus said Jews were Satan worshipers, Mrs Christian. Orthodox Judaism is Phariseeism. Do you know your own religion?

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  • irishxxkelt 

    irishxxkelt 12 hours ago

    I am a follower of Jesus not Pharisees.

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  • 247BRIDGE 

    247BRIDGE 1 day ago

    I dom’t mean to raise some storm. A bitter spirit in galloway is still raising it’s ugly head against dead Thatcher too. He’s living in full-blown ignorance.The holy bible (the longest standing document on earth) has never been doctored to suit anybody”s wish yet archeological finds keep confirming every single thing in the bible, be it geography or the Jewish life. I’m not Jewish, not muslim, not westerner.It’s however sad that people could see the truth starring at them, yet willfully ignorant

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  • Squarerig 

    Squarerig 21 hours ago

    I know you wish to believe this but everything of which you write is simply not true.The bible is not”god’s” word at all.

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  • Squarerig 

    Squarerig 13 hours ago

    Alas,poor old Macabi makes outrageous statements which he cannot back up or support with facts.Only the “Torah” which,for him contains the only truths ever written.And this is jewish “reasoning”?

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  • laservision1000 

    laservision1000 17 hours ago

    Shut up pathetic Jew, stop bragging about your supposed superiority.

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  • 247BRIDGE 

    247BRIDGE 12 hours ago

    Thank you for your lovely complement. I’ve told you who I’m not but let me tell you who I am: an African and a Christian. So sad the Jews are blind to the fact that the Messiah has already come but we know that even in their “blindness”, they are dancing to the tune of prophecy.Can’t you see, buddy? You keep throwing tantrums yet things in the world have been fulfilling prophecies as old as 2000-3500 years unalterered. Wake up, buddy!!! Eternity is closing in. Give your life to Christ

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  • GMBCATASTROPHE 

    GMBCATASTROPHE 1 day ago

    Completely irrelevant. Jews have shown themselves unable to live in a reasonable way with non-Jews unless they are dominated by a third party. End of story. I would nominate South East Asian Christians and semi-retired African statesmen with an excellent track record to be their governors.

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  • GMBCATASTROPHE 

    GMBCATASTROPHE 1 day ago

    Basically we have three types of Christians. Muslims who are war-footing Christians. Main-stream Christians. Then we have these evil Christian-Schismatics we today call “Jews” who have an inverted Satanic religion based on deception, unearned wealth, and malicious damage to non-Schismatics.

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  • 247BRIDGE 

    247BRIDGE 1 day ago

    Keep up your passion, Galloway! I only wish those who love you with an undying love would advise you that your name could end up in a self-fulfilling prophecy on you. Haman, in the bible, stood against the Jews and he ended up the GALLOWS WAY. God’s word is clear:bless Israel and be blessed.Curse them and u’re cursed.

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  • GMBCATASTROPHE 

    GMBCATASTROPHE 1 day ago

    Bullshit. Outdated theology. Jews aren’t Hebrews. Even if you aren’t an atheist, Jews are nobody’s chosen ones any more and they aren’t Hebrews even if that deal still held true. Whom we call “Jews” today are those Jews that did not convert. Minority Jews. In other words Christian Schismatics, from the criminal wing of the wider Christian religion.

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  • GMBCATASTROPHE 

    GMBCATASTROPHE 1 day ago

    Every year the Jew schismatics make cakes and things that are supposed to represent Haman’s internal organs and the weird bastards get the children to eat these various macarbe tid-bits. What a sick bunch of oddballs, misfits and loony-toons these people are.

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  • Squarerig 

    Squarerig 1 day ago

    I like your comment!But,surely HAMAM means bathhouse or could that be construed as shithouse?

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  • GMBCATASTROPHE 

    GMBCATASTROPHE 1 day ago

    I want to point out that its easy to be pro-Israel and pro-Jewish until you begin to grasp the centuries-old pattern of Jewish-elite behaviour. As I was just explaining to someone. I was pro-war after 9/11. I swung back on Israels side. I began to become anti-Islamic. Its not until you see that sponsoring anti-semitism, terrorism, even terrorism against Jewish people …. false flag attacks. These are all long-standing behaviours of the Jewish elite. Our friend George is always going to …

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  • GMBCATASTROPHE 

    GMBCATASTROPHE 1 day ago

    …. is always going to seem a little unreasonable to conservatives who do not understand these longstanding strategies of the Jewish elite. The Jewish elite controls mainstream Jews by inciting anti-semitism, and by controlling the rest of the Jews the forge strategies to control the rest of us. There must therefore be no Jewish state not run as a colony by non-Jews. Because an independent Jewish state is merely a force multiplier for the elite gangsters. Israel must become a colony.

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  • Maurice E. Coates 

    Maurice E. Coates 1 day ago

    The fact is that Israel does exist as the result of the United Nations. It does not need the acceptance of anyone other than the citizens who reside inside the country.

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  • GMBCATASTROPHE 

    GMBCATASTROPHE 1 day ago

    Absolutely not. If all 7 billions of the rest of us decide that a Jewish state is simply unacceptable they will eventually have to accept non-Jewish oversight. This is a criminal religion. A religion that has never been able to live in peace unless dominated by non-Jews.

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  • GMBCATASTROPHE 

    GMBCATASTROPHE 1 day ago

    Taken out of power. Any wealth above 20 million confiscated. Restricted to certain areas of gainful employment, not including politics, banking, the public service, or journalism unless the own the paper as a sole trader.

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  • GMBCATASTROPHE 

    GMBCATASTROPHE 1 day ago

    Its seems that very few were killed, given that this was the financial district. So I think the rumour has wings.

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  • GMBCATASTROPHE 

    GMBCATASTROPHE 1 day ago

    Hitler was an Austrian Jew. He fit into the idea of a devious clandestine cosmopolitan doing damage to his benefactors.

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  • GMBCATASTROPHE 

    GMBCATASTROPHE 1 day ago

    What it means is that their claims to other peoples land was always horeshit, but a greater level of horseshit, considering that the most offensive amongst these goons aren’t even Hebrews, but are rather Khazars.

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  • GMBCATASTROPHE 

    GMBCATASTROPHE 1 day ago

    That has never been proven. Davids kingdom is not an established fact of history and if it was, then by their own admission the area was stolen back then as well, and in a genocidal way. Further to that the Palestinian people are far more closely related to the ancient Hebrews then any predominant Kharzarian pretender. So that therefore on all grounds they have no right to management of that territory.

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  • irishxxkelt 

    irishxxkelt 18 hours ago

    It is actually Recently a boundary stone was found with David’s name on it.

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  • GMBCATASTROPHE 

    GMBCATASTROPHE 17 hours ago

    This is not powerfully good evidence. You cannot carbon-date stone. Particularly if its stone without carbon in it. This is why they’ve been able to get away with ridiculously young ages for the pyramids. Plus anyone can write the name “David” on a stone in ancient Hebrew. And as we know the Khazars are less related to the Hebrews then Muslim and Christian Palestinians are.

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  • irishxxkelt 

    irishxxkelt 17 hours ago

    It is evidence carbon-dating or not. You are into denial. I wish to God that people would shut up about the Khazars, a semi-nomadic tribe on the Pontic Steppes who spoke a Turkic language. Some converted to Judaism and others to Islam. There is no record of Turkic-speaking nomads wandering into Europe. Many of the European Jews can trace their family trees back to the diaspora.

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  • GMBCATASTROPHE 

    GMBCATASTROPHE 17 hours ago

    A rock with someone’s name on it is only evidence that someone put someone else’s name on a rock. Without dating it cannot amount to much. But supposing you are right? Since Palestinians are more closely related to Ancient Hebrews then Khazars are it’s evidence for a Palestinian takeover.

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  • Squarerig 

    Squarerig 13 hours ago

    There is evidence aplenty.But one has to look for and read it!Blinkers off,please!

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  • irishxxkelt 

    irishxxkelt 12 hours ago

    There is no evidence. There is no written account of semi-nomads speaking Turkic coming into Europe that were Jews.

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  • GMBCATASTROPHE 

    GMBCATASTROPHE 11 hours ago

    Nonsense. The Byzantines knew all about these people. I’ll get you a reference later.

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  • Phil Gibbons 

    Phil Gibbons 10 hours ago

    There is plenty of historical and archaeological evidence of the Khazar kingdom and in the Middle ages the Black Sea was known as the Khazar Sea.

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  • Wolff Bachner 

    Wolff Bachner 4 hours ago

    absolute rubbish. there have been several highly reputable recent dna studies that prove conclusively European Jews are descended from middle eastern Jews. keep living in your fantasy world and promoting genocide. you are good good little hitler youth.

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  • GMBCATASTROPHE 

    GMBCATASTROPHE 3 hours ago

    Lies.. There’s been some slow mixing is all . Ashkenazi Jews may have picked up a couple of markers since they converted en masse. But the have no special claim to a close relationship with the ancient Hebrews.

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  • Phil Gibbons 

    Phil Gibbons 2 hours ago

    What do you mean the search for the Jewish gene by racist idiots who have never found it? the Khazar empire certainly existed and it was more important than Palestine. it is so important for Zionists to find an excuse to be in the Middle East they ignore the fact that all the early Christians were Palestinian Jews and were leaders of the Church There is no evidence for a Jewish exile as “exile continues to be a religious fetish and has been since the Babylonian captivity..

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  • laservision1000 

    laservision1000 16 hours ago

    David and Goliath LOL about as real as the story of Moses

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  • Squarerig 

    Squarerig 1 day ago

    How is the “World Conspiracy” progressing,Macabi?Why do you refuse-by silence -to answer my questions about Leibowitz and Evelyn Hecht-Galinski.You must read German;all Jews can read German,I am certain.So,please,be polite enough to answer my questions.Schalom!

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  • Vinnie Chavez 

    Vinnie Chavez 1 day ago

    Hmmmmmmm Some people do tell and talk the truth.!! But when they Don’t it’s repugnant I always fine the Zionist in the reprehensibly spot of things.!!!

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  • tuliojusto1 

    tuliojusto1 22 hours ago

    … and quite visibly for that matter. Whenever I come to a thread I invariably find Zio vultures hovering over and picking on quite sensible people and debates. Poor things look desperate to create confusion, insult or lead people by the hand with fantastic tales. They are still living in the pre-internet era, when this was possible. Poor sods are loosing the battle of words and can’t see it.

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  • irishxxkelt 

    irishxxkelt 1 day ago

    claimed that he was an anti-Facist like his grandfather. Anyone with a modicum of knowledge of the World War II knows that Mussolini and Hitler were allies and Hitler considered the Arabs allies. Apparently Arrigoni’s so-called girlfriend is supposed to be making off with money according to Ken O ‘Keefe

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  • GMBCATASTROPHE 

    GMBCATASTROPHE 1 day ago

    Right but that was all crypto-Jew deep cover. Since in reality Hitler was a Jew doing the bidding of Jewish bankers.

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  • irishxxkelt 

    irishxxkelt 1 day ago

    I have been researching the life and death of Vittorio Arrigoni. There are a number of theories why he was killed. Like many other “peace activist” he wasn’t really peaceful. He spewed vitriol about Jews on his Facebook page. Ken O’ Keefe and Phil Gibbons would want to watch themselves in Gaza. Only one person suggested that Arrigoni was murdered because he was gay. A lot of people who cannot settle within their own society end up in places like Gaza. There is one very ironic fact is that he….

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  • KevyneShandris 

    KevyneShandris 1 day ago

    ++++++++++++++++++++++++1 — If I could only give him a million votes. That’s the rhetoric I prefer to hear. Terrorist state should not exist. Even the Torah proclaims to not return until God ordains it. But it’s not like Zionists believe in God (it’s founders were Atheists). I could not with a clear conscience condone Israel’s existence as much as Nazi Germany.

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  • tuliojusto1 

    tuliojusto1 1 day ago

    Kevyne, isn’t Zionism a political party? Do you know anything about its origin? I am finding difficult to equate Judaism and Zionism. Judaism seems to be a religion, still how should we call someone who follows Judaism? Still, there seems to be atheism within Judaism, how does it equate?

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  • Squarerig 

    Squarerig 1 day ago

    Zionism is a “liberation movement”?Don’t make me laugh!Liberation from what?From European culture to which Jews have contributed so much?Remember Zionism had its origins in Germany-am Deutschen Wesen soll die Welt genesen!-long before old Adolf and his “plans” so where was the persecution?In England?Germany?Europe?Be man enough to back up such outrageous statements with some facts and figures-but do not be too prolix.Schalom

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  • Macabi Judea 

    Macabi Judea 1 day ago

    Hi Feeble mind. no you wrong again.

    Israeli citizens come from over 100 countries and include people of every color of skin and racial background–Latin Americans, Arab Jews, Asian Jews and Black African Jews from Ethiopia.

    All that togetheter with Tsabars Israeli like me, born and raised 8th generation.

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  • Squarerig 

    Squarerig 1 day ago

    With typical “jewish” cunning you avoid answering my questions.Why is this?Because I have you/Jew over the proverbial barrel.You also lack a sense of humour.Where is the much-publicised “jewish humour” when we need it most?Macabi,you have been weighed in the balance and found wanting.Answer my questions regarding Leibowitz and Hecht Galinski or I refuse to speak with you again.How is that for a threat?You must be relieved to read it!Keep smiling,in 10years Israel will be gone!NO problems more!

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  • Squarerig 

    Squarerig 21 hours ago

    Evelyn Hecht Galinski is the daughter of the late President of the Council of Jews in Germany-is that kosher enough for you?And J.Leibowitz was the distinguished Jew,although a Zionist, who fell out with your NAZI state and its murderous presidents.Read the book,”Gespraeche ueber Gott und die Welt” published in 1990.I write this for the third time!!!The mind is like a parachute.It is only useful if you OPEN it!

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  • Squarerig 

    Squarerig 21 hours ago

    How can you demean yourself by addressing a non-believing Jew as a NAZI?Your mind is certainly warped,perhaps by your fervent attachment to the terrorist doctrine of your very temporary state.

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  • Squarerig 

    Squarerig 13 hours ago

    And now you resort to cheap abuse which demonstrates that you cannot argue your case any more.You should be ashamed of yourself!What will the Rebbi say to this?And how about a reply to Hecht Gal. and Leibowitz?

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  • Squarerig 

    Squarerig 1 day ago

    And another thing,Macabi,I have never mentioned the racial composition of your terrorist/democratic state.Why do you address these statistics to me?Are you becoming rattled by my insistence on your answering my questions?Schalom!And your generation will be the last,believe me!But there is a place for you in Europe where your intellectual contributions have always been welcome-but leave your dreadful,perverted zionism behind.

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  • jurg ban 

    jurg ban 22 hours ago

    Jews, they are obliged to live in a separate part of town…; for they are considered as unclean creatures… Under the pretext of their being unclean, they are treated with the greatest severity and should they enter a street, inhabited by Musulmans, they are pelted by the boys and mobs with stones and dirt… For the same reason, they are prohibited to go out when it rains; for it is said the rain would wash dirt off them, which would sully the feet of the Musulmans…

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  • Squarerig 

    Squarerig 21 hours ago

    Please,don’t get me started on the muslims and their obscurantist so-called faith!Full of hatred and breathing ignorance,in which they revel;it has held back the arab mind-is there such a thing,I wonder-for centuries.But please,do not confuse Palestinians with muslims.My Pal.friends now,for obvious reasons living in Jordan,are all Christian.I relish debating this matter with Jews for they never fail to rise to the bait-jewish greed and avarice again?

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  • jurg ban 

    jurg ban 22 hours ago

    Hindus

    The Muslim conquests, down to the 16th century, were for the Hindus a pure struggle of life and death. Entire cities were burnt down and the populations massacred, with hundreds of thousands killed in every campaign, and similar numbers deported as slaves. Every new invader made (often literally) his hills of Hindus skulls. Thus, the conquest of Afghanistan in the year 1000 was followed by the annihilation of the Hindu population;

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  • jurg ban 

    jurg ban 22 hours ago

    All the Christian men of Cordoba, Zaragoza and Merida, were killed by the Moors in 920 AD. 6000 Jews were massacred by the Moors, in Fez of Morocco in 1033. And another 4000 Jews of Grenada were killed by the Moors in 1066. The Christians were all deported by the Moors to Morocco in 1126. The history of Islam in 1380 years of massacre after massacre of literally millions of innocent people. Murder, theft, rape, torture, slavery and totalitarian world conquest is their true history.

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  • tuliojusto1 

    tuliojusto1 20 hours ago

    You know, a clever little Jew once said: “Comedy is tragedy plus time.” The tragedy about tragedy is that it has an expiry date, even mourning has an acceptable limit, passing that it falls into the opposite realm. Whenever there is a mention to any tragedy laying dormant in the confines of history it sounds self-serving, therefore abusive to the long sleeping diseased(s) , it becomes laughable. It is the case with every single tragedy you are listing, including the holocaust.

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  • jurg ban 

    jurg ban 16 hours ago

    the only thing which keeps you fucking muzzies from mass murdering us westerners is that we are military wise GIANTS

    WE EUROPEANS COULD DEFEAT YOU MUZZIES TENFOLDS–WE COULD NUKE YOUR MECCA INTO ASHES

    AND AS I THINK WE SHOULD

    WE EUROPEANS SHOULD RETAKE THE COLONIALISM AND BE LIKE FATHERS TO ALL THIS SAVAGE STUPID MUSLIM ARABS AND BLACKS

    WE WOULD MANAGE YOUR COUNTRIES–YOUR BLOODSUCKING DICTAROS WOULD EVAPORATE–YOU WOULDN’T PARASITE AND LIVING ON WELFARE BUT WOULD WORK AND BE PRODUCTIVE

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  • laservision1000 

    laservision1000 16 hours ago

    Work will set you free yeah? Now where did I hear that before, Hmmmm on the tip of my tongue. Are you sure you Jews didn’t invent national socialism?

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    Macabi Judea 16 hours ago

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  • laservision1000 

    laservision1000 16 hours ago

    But who keeps supplying them with weapons and funding gorilla warfare?

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  • jurg ban 

    jurg ban 15 hours ago

    YEAH YOU IDOTS USE ALL YOUR MEAGRE RESOURCES TO BUY WEAPONRY TO ATTACK EACH OTHER…YOUR DICTATROS BUY TANKS WHICH CAN NOT PASS A SINGLE BRIDGE EBCUASE YOPUR BRIDGES ARE TO WEAK–YOUR PILOTS ARE UNABLE TO FLY ADVANCED FIGHER PLANES AND THER ONLY COUNTRY ABLE TO BUILD ALL THIS HARDWARE IS ISRAEL

    SO YOU STONE AGE CAVEMEN SHOUDL ASK YOURSELF WHY YOUR DOGMA ISLAM MAKES YOU SO STUPID

    become educated and secular–fuck off your ayatholllahs

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  • laservision1000 

    laservision1000 15 hours ago

    Educated? You can barely communicate. 1. I’m not a Muslim 2. You seem to think I’m an Arab, judging by your tirade, I’m not. 3. Jews didn’t invent jet fighters 4. Israel isn’t the only weapons manufacturer in the world, but is a nation willing to sell arms to just about anybody due to its complete lack of morality.

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  • Squarerig 

    Squarerig 13 hours ago

    Tut,tut,Macabi;you are resorting to gutter language!This does not make for clear thinking!Nothing belongs to anybody in the long run for in it we are all dead-even JEWS die,you know,or do you?

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  • Phil Gibbons 

    Phil Gibbons 10 hours ago

    You are a boring halfwit. you don’t have a single thought that is your own. All you do is utter the garbage of the tupenny Hasbarat.

    You get your racist slurs from red necks and your attitude from the Nazis.

    I will be really happy to see the end of the racist “Jewish State” and the dawn of democracy in the levant.المشرق العربي‎

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  • jurg ban 

    jurg ban 10 hours ago

    In the Middle East, 1.4 million Arabs experience true freedom. They live in Israel. They are citizens of the Jewish state and enjoy same legal and political rights as the rest.

    300 million Arabs do not experience true freedom. They live outside the tiny strip of Israel under a misogynistic yokes posing as sovereignty and independence. The contrast between the Arabs in Israel and counterparts outside the strip are becoming distinct.

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  • jurg ban 

    jurg ban 10 hours ago

    “Israeli Arabs are generally non-assimilating and reside in villages where they administer their own municipal and internal affairs. They run their own schools, where Arabic, an official language of Israel, is the language of instruction. They govern their religious courts, which adjudicate matters relating to marriage and divorce. However, they have been greatly influenced by Israeli culture, incorporating aspects of it into their own. They learn and speak Hebrew fluently, watch Israeli TV

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  • Wolff Bachner 

    Wolff Bachner 4 hours ago

    of course, that will only happen who 6 million more Jews are killed but that ok with you obviously. once a nazi prick always a nazi prick.

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  • GMBCATASTROPHE 

    GMBCATASTROPHE 3 hours ago

    No Good. We must have zero tolerance for this despicable lie about the six million. Retract.

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  • Phil Gibbons 

    Phil Gibbons 2 hours ago

    The only people who mention 6 million Jews from history ignore the plight of other 11 million victims of the holocaust as Zionist Jews are the only ones that count and the only ones allowed to steal land and bomb civilians.

    You blah blah about the holocaust is wearing very thin in the rest of the world. Racial fascism is only still alive in the so-called “Jewish State”.

    How many people were murdered in the West Bank today because Zionists are after their land?

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  • Phil Gibbons 

    Phil Gibbons 2 hours ago

    Lying and sneering and accusing other people as being as bad as the Zionists obviously are is all you have left for any kind of argument. You are a joke. Are you a more senior hasbarat than the idiots who have already been bested and frustrated so much that the revealed their evil abusive characters? Are you getting your lies from Lorna Fitzsimon?

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  • jurg ban 

    jurg ban 15 hours ago

    so you can swich to french-german or italian when you wish, you as a fully educated englishman surely are educated at the highest level and for sure want to parley in some other language then this boring english–your upper class for centuries used french as language of court and administration so why not in french–???

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  • laservision1000 

    laservision1000 14 hours ago

    Well that was informative, for a moment I thought you would try and divert attention from Israel’s arms dealing record.

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  • Phil Gibbons 

    Phil Gibbons 2 hours ago

    Ich spreche Deutsch, Je parle francais. Yo hablo Espanol. Ya gavaru pe russki. I also read and write 2 dead languages namely Hebrew and Latin, but they are of no use in the modern world.

    Why don’t you speak Yiddish as that is the language of land thieves.

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  • Phil Gibbons 

    Phil Gibbons 2 hours ago

    The word is switch so you are unable to write English as well.

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  • Phil Gibbons 

    Phil Gibbons 10 hours ago

    Israel just has weapons delivered by the US to commit war crimes.

    Your ridiculous Israeli made Merkava tanks were useless against Hezbollah who kicked your ass twice.

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  • jurg ban 

    jurg ban 22 hours ago

    Arabs are the most unrealistic, crazy people I have ever met. Death is forever coming out of their mouths. None of them is talking peace. They want Israel dead, but it will never happen. Hezbollah like Al Qaeda, Hamas, Islamic Jihad e.t.c does not represent the will of the people but of their own. This are cult movements, a limb of satan against the society

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  • jurg ban 

    jurg ban 22 hours ago

    where have you bleeding heart liberal assholes been whenMUSLIM ARAB MILITIAS SLAUGHTERED 300’000 BLACKS IN DARFUR

    WHERE HAVE YOU BEEN WHEN SUNNI FANTAITC IN ALGERIA MASSACRED 200’000 MODERATE SUNNIS IN ALGERIA

    WHERE ARE YOU COMPLETE LIBERAL MUSLIM COCK SUCKING IDIOT WHEN EVERY YEAR 160’000 CHRISTIANS ARE KILLED IN MUSLIM COUTNRIES

    ASSYRIANS, ARMENIANS, COPTS, BERBERERS AND BLACK CHRISTIANS HAVE BEEN SLUAGHTERED BY MUSLIMS

    CRUSADES WHEN 60 MILLION CHRISTIAN/HEBREWS WERE KILLED BY MUZZIES

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  • tuliojusto1 

    tuliojusto1 20 hours ago

    Wow to you hypocrites!!!! Are you also mourning Muslims and Christians? Guys, you sure enjoy a morgue.

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  • irishxxkelt 

    irishxxkelt 18 hours ago

    Ever hear of the Russian pogroms or even the holocaust?

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  • Squarerig 

    Squarerig 13 hours ago

    No.

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  • irishxxkelt 

    irishxxkelt 12 hours ago

    Then your education was pathetic.

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  • Squarerig 

    Squarerig 5 hours ago

    But at least it was devoid of all the nonsense surrounding the apparent extermination programme of the Jews!And what has this to do with Palestine or the Pal.people?And you are educated because you are Jew lover?I think not!

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  • tuliojusto1 

    tuliojusto1 22 hours ago

    Hey, Macabeast, I didn’t ask you. I asked Kevyne who sounds a little more composed among you.

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  • MikeGibsonSG 

    MikeGibsonSG 1 day ago

    You find pretty much any equation impossible to solve, feeble mind. Funniest being that you even find equations you magicked up yourself impossible to solve. As you’re too pig-ignorant and dumb to even consider that you got all the variables in your equations wrong, you’ll go to your grave full of unsolved equations.

    No worries though. You’ll be forgotten long before that.

    How’s that “Palestinian” history coming along? Found any of it yet? I guess not.

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  • tuliojusto1 

    tuliojusto1 23 hours ago

    Simple enough questions, but as you see, received too many negative votes. As I am saying in this thread, if you want to know anything about anything, go to a synagogue library, get their encyclopedias, read them if you can stomach, and you will find the basis of Zionism embedded there.

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  • jurg ban 

    jurg ban 22 hours ago

    In Tunisia a Berber woman had the courage to face Islamists who tried to force her to wear hijab….she exclaimed..

    This is Tunisia a country with 3’000 year old history..

    You islamofascist Arabs are outsiders, bloody descendants from the desert of Saudi Arabia, destined to be on sidelines of history.. Tunisia will never become another Afghanistan

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  • tuliojusto1 

    tuliojusto1 20 hours ago

    And your point is?

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  • Macabi Judea

    Macabi Judea 19 hours ago

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  • Squarerig 

    Squarerig 13 hours ago

    Celebrate whilst you can,Macabi,for the days are drawing in and there is a time to rejoice and time to weep and the time of weeping and gnashing of teeth is nigh.Woe unto them that depart not from the land of Canaan for I,Jehovah,will strike them with a mighty sword.Thus sayeth the Lord!Run,Macabi,RUN!

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  • kingfiltraitor 

    kingfiltraitor 1 day ago

    Oh right Israel not apartheid.

    watch?v=__fl7IY4uzk

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  • jamesthedude1977 

    jamesthedude1977 1 day ago

    To all you Muslim haters, deep down you all know that George Galloway speaks the truth. Take off the blinkers and I’m sure you would agree with him.

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  • tuliojusto1 

    tuliojusto1 1 day ago

    James, I believe there is truth in Galloway, but he misunderstands or doesn’t want to openly conflict with the Jewish community, for obviously the whole community has hidden itself behind a self-serving silence for decades. Their game is being exposed lately, many people really don’t care if they are called racists, anti-Semites anymore, and are becoming outspoken. It is expected that Jews begin to be weary of being connected to the game. Up to 10 years ago we didn’t hear of two types of Jews.

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  • jamesthedude1977 

    jamesthedude1977 1 day ago

    I’m with you. There is a difference between Jews and pro-Israel Zionists. Calling any anti-Zionist an anti-semitic racist has become the mantra of the pro-Israel Zionist lobby.

    There are many anti-Zionist Jews but there are many who want to turn the Israel issue into a race issue which it is’nt.

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  • tuliojusto1 

    tuliojusto1 1 day ago

    I see your point. It looks to me that whether Jewry connects on the basis of race or religion will always be confusing for non-Jews, but it is hardly relevant. Until 5 years or so ago this community was very united, showing no dissenting voices, no fissures. We never heard of a less than Jew among Jews, those sound as a out of cuff character. But dissenting rabies is a good sign. It shows that the academic Jewish elite starts to smell the coffee, and are trying somehow to jump out of this boat.

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  • tuliojusto1 

    tuliojusto1 1 day ago

    cont from jamesthdude1977,

    It is a smart move and for that they deserve our aplauses.

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  • GMBCATASTROPHE 

    GMBCATASTROPHE 1 day ago

    With this crowd we have to differentiate between sincere dissension and controlled opposition. One way to help tell is that the sincere dissenters are usually hated for a long time by the mainstream. Controlled opposition never seems to pay a severe professional price.

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  • irishxxkelt 
Posted by: graemebird | April 9, 2013

Gravitational Theory And Alternative Planetary Structure

More later.

I was so impressed that my girls,  who have known me from the internet,  tried so hard to say a nice word about me, when I had made a clear decision to turn myself into a leper.

The pressure would be so powerful on them,  to make the distance between me and them.  Yet I caught them trying to put in a good word for me before they made that distance.  I caught them out.

I caught them. Rose, Alice, Tal, Lizzie freckle-face, and even Gab trying to twist things in my long-term favour and make excuses for me.  I have suspicions.  Maybe Philomena in her other guises.

One day love will rule again over lies.   Here comes the sun:

My girls don’t want to associate with me and I understand that. But I caught you trying to lessen the disgrace of me breaking through this social barrier to attempt to talk clearly about why our world is heading towards total destruction.  I was going after Jew-town, the ultimate sin, and I caught you at least TRYING to make excuses for me.

Everything I’ve said that seems to be against Judaic individuals would need about five pages of caveats for me to be comfortable about it.  I’m going down this rabbit hole but I appreciated your affection all that time even though you must distance yourselves from me now. Even the mixed up shook up girl Philomena. (most especially the lady Philomena.)

I’ve got to run this anti-Jew line.  I have to run this line. I must rune this line. Its not any easy way out and its no path of easiest resistance.

I really don’t have a choice.  Individuals are good, bad or indifferent.  But my current findings are that Judaism proper, combined with entrenched Jew bankers, is the greatest threat that the species has ever faced. These bad boys have made me an offer I can’t refuse:

Think about the characterisation of Jesus.  Perhaps the John Galt character and the Big Lebowski and a bunch of other fellows in the 20th century might compete in terms of ZEN.

But the character of Jesus is this awesomely Zen character.  Probably the most ZEN character ever conceived prior to the latter half of the twentieth century. When I’ve been drinking, I’ve tried explaining the ZEN of Jesus in tough situations,  and I’ve had to back off, walk away, take a premature toilet stop …. because it can be hard not to be overcome with emotion.

You try and explain these things.  You start thinking about the zen of Jesus writing in the sand. Standing those bad boys down when they wanted to stone one of our girls.  Standing those bad boys down just by being zen and writing in the sand. Dude was so Zen he but never even so much as looked up until the bad boys had gone away and either dropped their stones or taken their stones with them.

Jesus is the most ZEN pre-20th century characterisation ……..

…….. Except for in one situation.

Except for this one situation where he was far from fucking Zen.  In this one situation he took the lash to the money-changers.  In anger and without fear he turned the tables on the money-changers.

As an atheist I can say that the example of the man from Nazareth could not be more vital today.  All men are brothers except for the money-creators.  All of us must gang up against this crowd of blasphemers.

So Gab, though I appreciate your efforts to minimize my transgressions this is no passing phase.

Jesus came NOT to save us from our sins.  Jesus came to save us from the madness and wickedness of Judaism.

I will walk the world as a disgraced person.  Even Mrs Draper will shy away from sending me a kind message next Easter.

I suspect I will always be akin to a disease socially from here on in.

But ……………..

then again …….

………….these times may pass.

The banking racket may be brought to an end.  The Jews may accept the Logos, and the taint I will carry may start to fade and to diminish.

I don’t know when that will be?

But if the taint finally ends I’d like to see all my beautiful girls again.

When will that be?

Posted by: graemebird | April 5, 2013

The Need For Loyal Opposition To Buttress Jew Fairytales

I was saying that as likeable as Steve Kates is, he seems to be (perhaps unwittingly) playing the role of loyal opposition to the Keynesian multiplier.  The Keynesian multiplier is a Jew fairy tale.  Of course it was too close to home when it came to banker enrichment, to give the credit to a Jew.  So the credit went all to Keynes.

We saw how Sinclair, when the 2008 crisis hit, weakly opposed the proposed spending spree, while at the same time backing up the reasoning BEHIND that proposed spending spree.  But the Keynesian multiplier is such a ridiculous and baseless idea itself that it may require a further level of opposition.

(DRUM ROLL) Here enters Steve Kates.  Steve correctly explains half of the argument as to why fiscal policy ought not be used in a recession.  But leaves the other half blank, and makes excuses for fractional reserve, by denying that plummeting aggregate demand, can ever be a problem?????!@#$%^&*!!!!!

Its true that if total demand is growing enough, then consumer and government demand deficiency need never be a problem.  But Kates somehow forgets to state this part of the story, and the rest of the story,  clearly enough.

What will happen then is someone will have heard Steve talk, gotten half the story …. And me not knowing this I’ll try to explain to him why fiscal policy is useless.  Well having heard and rejected Steves thinking, I’ll get onto Say’s Law, and the fellow’s eyes are going to glaze over.  This is the intent of loyal opposition.   I say this even though I cannot in good faith accuse Steve of doing this on purpose.

I tried to convict Professor Kates but I cannot do it.  And yet this is the nub of the Jew problem. Because we cannot usually accuse the individual;  sooner or later we are going to have to evict the entire tribe. Western society has faced this problem and dealt with it morally 109 times.

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Anyway this is not exactly what I wanted to talk about today.  But before I get to the main topics, let me tell you just how far loyal opposition (or controlled opposition) can go.  The Rockefeller crime gang essentially knew that they had been busted.  They were found out.  So they started a group in order to get people to accuse them of what everyone already knew they were doing.  They got Robert Welch to tell the truth about them. They financed Robert Welch in starting up the John Birch society.  And Robert Welch himself told the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth.  But his organisation was discredited and so the truthzzzzz he told were cleverly discredited by dint of discrediting the Rockefeller financed organisation in its entirety.  Even though this Rocefeller financed organisation had the dope, and was spilling the beans, on the Rockefeller crime gang.

Eustace Mullins describes how  the organisation would screw things up on key strategic points while Robert Welch still lived …. But subsequent to Welch another later President of the John Birch society was Larry Mc Donald.  And Larry also told the truth, but may not have been bought by the people who bought Welch in order to discredit themselves and discredit their discrediters in masterful loyal opposition fashion.

So Larry McDonald, telling the truth and this time NOT BOUGHT (one may assume) seems to have become a menace to the ruling elite.  Which is no doubt why all the crew and passengers of KAL-OO7 had to die.  An assassination of a single individual disguised as the shoot-down of a passenger flight.  Loyal opposition can work beautifully. But it can go wrong. No matter. Just murder a bunch of people and everything works out alright for the ruling elite in the final analysis.

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What I really intend to show you is how one Jew fairy tale, locked in by character assassination, the cult of personality, and relentless propaganda, must lead to another Jew fairy tale, and another, and must eventually lead to the full spectrum breakdown of science, the humanities, and any possibility of  free enquiry.

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It ought to be just taken as given that the philosopher holds precedence over the physicist. Why would a mere field worker and mathematician hold sway over philosophy?   Why would a philosopher skew all his deliberations to better suit the mood of a young Jew who makes pronouncements on the physical world?       But this travesty of unreason has already happened???? It came about after 1913 when the Christian era of science was ended and the era of the moneyed interest reigned supreme.

We have the golden age of science which is the Christian age of science….. Let me grab some of the magic of the righteousness of new testament Christianity:

In the beginning there was the Logos.  And the Logos was God. But the Logos to the Romans meant so much more then just THE WORD.  It means something akin to the following:

……….In the beginning their was the ordered universe, the natural law, and the moral law.  And this was the Logos, and the Logos was God………….

If we take this broad understanding of the Greek concept of Logos, and then when we consider people like Nick De Cusa and Saint Thomas Aquinas, and a boy called William …. A boy who was said to have come from a town called Occam.  If we look at the Logos concept and we consider these personalities, is it any wonder that Christianity wound up being the greatest gift that science ever had?

Somewhat arbitrarily I’m calling before 1913 the Christian era of science.  And after 1913 I’m calling it the ERA OF THE MONEYED INTEREST.  And I’m assuming that the moneyed interest was Jew dominated.  So that I’m assuming that this horseshit we have now, passing itself off as science, is really JEW-SCIENCE.

Now I know a lot of this is technically wrong but part of my agenda is an agenda of desensitisation.  The Jews have made us jumpy and akin to a pack of Pavlovs dogs.  They spend a lot of their time on blogs abusing the Christian paternity and running down our Muslim brothers and sisters, and yet they expect us to treat them like delicate plants, or fine glassware.  Or let me be more honest and say “like delicate plants or fine glassware” because I’m quoting someone and that quote comes from about 1879.

So these are not new tricks these people play on us.  The other thing is that the fact that the holocaust is yet another Jew fairy tale, is a little hard for people to take until they realise the plethora of Jew fairy tales that are out there.  And once people know just how much of the bullshit they believe can 79% be classified as Jew fairy tales, then they may be a little bit more comfortable with facing  the fact that the holocaust is just another one of these disgraceful contrivances.

The holocaust is a Jew fairy tale amongst many.  And just like the science-Jew -Fairy-tales  ………………     that get in the way of scientific advancement …………..   the holocaust Jew Fairy tale ……..  this most horrid of Jew fairy tales hides this multitude of crimes-against-humanity that must be atoned for.

The victims of the crimes that the jew fairy tale of the holocaust is hiding have to be given a proper Christian burial. But the victims of THOSE CRIMES that the Jew fairy tale of the holocaust is hiding will NEVER HAVE THAT CHRISTIAN BURIAL …. They will never have a Christian burial.  They won’t have it while the Jew fairy tale of the holocaust is tolerated.

I said TOLERATED.

The Jew fairy tale of the holocaust is NOT acceptable.  Certainly its NOT acceptable to SPEAK-this-lie.  But I say that its not acceptable to even believe the Jew fairy tale of the holocaust in your heart.  Zero tolerance when it comes to this particular Jew fairy tale. This fairy tale is a moral outrage.  Its an infinite insult to the Logos.

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“”"”"”"”The title “The Weight of Smoke” refers to a challenge that Sir Walter Raleigh had with Queen Elizabeth.  He told her that he knew the weight of smoke.  He proved this by weighing out tobacco on a balance, lighting it in his pipe and weighing the remaining ashes.  He said that the weight of the tobacco minus the weight of the ashes was the weight of smoke.    “If thought be smoke evaporating in the wind, what ash is left is our estate…To weigh our failures is to weigh the smoke.””"”"”"

So they say that matter can neither be created nor destroyed? But if they believe in the big bang theory they are liars or have not thought the matter through.

In one sense Sir Walter believed in the conservation of mass.  Otherwise he wasn’t laying out this foreplay with the pipe, the tobacco and the weighing machine.  BUT HE WASN’T A FUCKING LUNATIC.  He was an Englishman.  He accepted the LOGOS.  But this was before Darwin.  And before Darwin it was just cursory assumption that you don’t have a clock without a clockmaker.

When Sir Walter was showing good Queen Lizzie the principles of the conservation of mass, prior to showing her what it means to be a woman, do you imagine that he even daydreamed that all the weight of matter in the world could BE HERE, without somehow BEING CREATED?????

He was a pirate. An adventurer.  But he wasn’t a fucking lunatic.  That he weighed the Tobacco before the burning, and the ash after the burning, and calculated the weight of the smoke (not correct by the way because the tobacco bonds with the air so the smoke actually weighed a great deal more …….. not correct but certainly good enough to keep a hot single girl talking)…..

That Sir Walter had a crude version of the conservation of matter in no way means that he could ever delude himself into thinking that no agency, God or otherwise, could ever create matter.

The matter is fucking here. If something is constructed it must be capable of construction. If something is HERE it must have GOTTEN HERE somehow.

Now this is what philosophy has to offer physics.  And philosophy would have guided physics, rather then the other way around, if it had been still the Christian era of science …. and had not the moneyed interest (Jew fairy tales) taken over progressively after 1913.

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So let us get this straight. If you take God out of it, or you if you leave him in, or if you never knew of the concept NEW MATTER IS CAPABLE OF BEING CREATED.

How can anyone doubt this? Is foreplay between our lovely Queen and Sir Walter enough evidence to deny this? Its here. Heeeyah.  The matter is here. You cannot deny that.  If its here it must have gotten here.  If it got here, it must have been able to get here. If it was able to get here after it wasn’t here before, it must have been capable of being created, constructed or converted.

There is no getting around this.

But we can say that the concept of the matter being created continuously over time is one trillion times more credible then the JEW FAIRY TALE of all this construction happening ON THE INSTANT.

So in the end when we see matter we must explain for its presence.  We have only the one choice in the matter.  Matter is here so it must be continuously being created.  But the Jew propagandists insist that there is two ways to deal with this story……

1. The matter is created continuously over time:

2. A Jew fairy tale has everything created on the instant?

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Anyway lets have a look at the implications of this Jew usurpation:

  • bencubed 1 day ago

    I still don’t see how there is no 4 billion year old oceanic crust, somewhere.

    It has all subducted under the continents ?

    180 mya seems very young for the entire ocean floor on a 4.6 bya earth.

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  • GMBCATASTROPHE

    GMBCATASTROPHE 10 hours ago

    The answer is that potholder is wrong and obviously so. He should have seen this when he went to make his animation. The forces produced by volcanic emissions would be localized. They could not produce a reaction thousands of kilometers away. In the fantasy of plate tectonics the rift zones are visible but the trenches are almost all hiding down the well with the twelfth Imam. Or hiding under continents. The forcing apart of continents could only ever happen by way of stretch marks.

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  • ginckgo

    ginckgo 4 hours ago

    You do understand that you are toying with an Argument from Incredulity there. The fact that at the average oceanic crust formation rate we see, you would expect oceanic crust older than 200 million years to get subducted. It also helps that as the oceanic crust ages, it gets colder and thicker, and thus denser and more easily subducted relative to younger crust.

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  • ginckgo

    ginckgo 4 hours ago

    The pacific basin has a very dynamic history. This image will give you some idea: farm9. staticflickr. com/8335/8093299232_110e60fb48­_b. jpg (top left is how it looke 140 million years ago, bottom right today)

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  • bencubed

    bencubed 4 hours ago

    The central plate appears to have grown over the past 140 my.

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  • ginckgo

    ginckgo 2 hours ago

    The central plate is what is today the Pacific Plate, and it started at the triple junction where the spreading ridges between three older plate met. It is the only realistic way to explain the pattern of crustal ages on the Pacific Plate as we see it today.

    EE insists that expansion started there, but that necessitates that the spreading ridges stayed close to the diverging continental margins, which is dynamically highly unlikely (the name MID-ocean ridges says it all)

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  • GMBCATASTROPHE

    GMBCATASTROPHE 1 hour ago

    No you are running away from the point. Forces simply do not and cannot travel that far, when the force is being generated by volcanic reactions at the bottom of the ocean. Find where the source action is? If its where you claim it is then the reaction cannot be where you say it’s happening or otherwise the action and reaction are unrelated. You are not going to be able to draw realistic force vectors to make your point.

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  • GMBCATASTROPHE

    GMBCATASTROPHE 45 minutes ago

    Not they are not equal you are lying. Expansion overmatches subduction and massively so. Subduction is an oddity. A rarity. Whereas we have many thousands of kilometers of rift zones that we can find direct evidence for. Your hypothetical subduction zones are hiding down the well with the twelfth Imam os Shia. Not only can you not prove this hidden subduction is happening …….. You cannot even show that its possible. It is a fantasy of yours there only to keep Jew fairy tales alive.

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  • bencubed

    bencubed 58 minutes ago

    I still don’t understand how 4bya rock is found on continents, but not on the ocean floor, considering how vast the Pangea theory suggests it has always been.

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  • ginckgo

    ginckgo 33 minutes ago

    Continental rock does not subduct due to its lower density relative to oceanic crust, thus continents remain for billions of years and even grow. There is a lot of erosion, but most of the time this sediment is deposited in continental basins, or if it goes into the deeper ocean it often gets shoved against the continent again by some later continental collision.

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  • GMBCATASTROPHE

    GMBCATASTROPHE 1 hour ago

    But the behavior of the banking elite is a absolutely central to this story. Judaism attitude is anti-Athenian. Stupid ideas like energy mass equivalence, the Big Bang, plate tectonics, and special relativity cannot exist except that they are mandated in by an elite. They are simply pummeled into us by this new Banditti. The old Banditti would steal things from us. These jerks hammer untenable ideas into us.

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  • ginckgo

    ginckgo 55 minutes ago

    You, sir, are a complete and utter idiot.

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  • GMBCATASTROPHE

    GMBCATASTROPHE 15 minutes ago

    So. You see what you are doing. It is because you are denying the rational approach to the fact that matter exists (OUTSIDE YOUR FIELD) … well this leads you to tendentiously deny the growing earth paradigm (WITHIN YOUR SPECIALITY).

    If you cannot see this it remains the case that everyone else can. This is why one Jew fairly tale, ruthlessly locked in, must always lead to another.

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  • GMBCATASTROPHE

    GMBCATASTROPHE 31 minutes ago

    The argument from incredulity is simply an accusation the jew makes when his evidence is not there and his logic doesn’t hold up.

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  • GMBCATASTROPHE

    GMBCATASTROPHE 29 minutes ago

    When someone straight faced is trying to sell one an illogical and evidence-free bill of goods incredulity is amongst the more polite of the better responses.

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  • GMBCATASTROPHE

    GMBCATASTROPHE 10 hours ago

    How can it do so under plate tectonics? If the force originates at the ring of fire how can it manifest thousands of miles away? It cannot.

    Supposing I have a hill of marshmallow ten meters high and ten miles wide. If I push on one side of it with a bulldozer the results are localized. Think of what it would take for the results NOT to be localized. Potholer’s denial of growing earth is based on pure superstition.

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  • ginckgo

    ginckgo 4 hours ago

    Ridge push is not the only force involved, there’s also slab pull, as well as mantle convection.

    And the insistence that the crust is too weak to maintain structural cohesion under force would also undermine most of the EE explanation of mountain building, such as crumpling due to reduction in curvature.

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  • GMBCATASTROPHE

    GMBCATASTROPHE 10 hours ago

    The compression travels thousands of miles around a curved planet before manifesting itself? It’s amazing what grown adults can be compelled to believe to keep Jew fairy tales (the Big Bang, energy/mass equivalence) alive.

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  • ginckgo

    ginckgo 4 hours ago

    keep your anti-semitic crap out of this.

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  • GMBCATASTROPHE

    GMBCATASTROPHE 10 hours ago

    Imagine is that sort of compression really was there and you drilled down into the sea floor. There would have to be a violent snap and that compression, coming from thousands of miles away, would be stopped in its tracks. But the compression isn’t there. This is no line-ball call. Compression of this sort cannot hope to travel horizontally even one mile.

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  • michael delaney

    michael delaney 9 hours ago

    ridiculous babble

    Subduction is a reaction to excessive growth

    Subduction is not an equivalent to growth, that is secular BS

    compressive subduction is a facet of growth

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  • ginckgo

    ginckgo 4 hours ago

    WTF? ‘excessive growth’ would just mean that the earth grows faster. Why would there be any need for subduction on a globe that is experiencing only expansive stresses?

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  • GMBCATASTROPHE

    GMBCATASTROPHE 1 hour ago

    There is no need for it but it can happen. Whereas there is no way to force two continents apart under PT. The fact that subduction is so comparatively rare is a winning sign for EE. Denialists would have to explain where all the matter comes from alternatively.

    I know what. Instead of matter being created a little bit at a time perhaps it all got here at once, in a gigantic Genesis Jew explosion. That ideas gotta work right? With 100 years of propaganda that idea could work a treat.

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  • GMBCATASTROPHE

    GMBCATASTROPHE 35 minutes ago

    Everything else is sub ducted. How convenient. In other words your evidence always hides. The dog ate your homework and the checks in the mail. If the oceans were older then they appear we would have the evidence for it.

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  • GMBCATASTROPHE

    GMBCATASTROPHE 10 hours ago

    What a lot of bullshit you talk. Your claim is that subduction equals expansion? Back it up liar.

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  • ginckgo

    ginckgo 4 hours ago

    Where did I say “subduction equals expansion”?

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  • michael delaney

    michael delaney 3 hours ago

    Plate tectonics foundation is a subduction zone that eats away at all the growth at the rifts in equal amounts, what dont you get?

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  • ginckgo

    ginckgo 2 hours ago

    That’s fine, though I would say that subduction was a prediction of PT, which has been amply verified by observations.

    But that’s not what GMBCATASTROPHE is saying, his quote “Your claim is that subduction equals expansion?” doesn’t make sense from anything I’ve written.

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  • GMBCATASTROPHE

    GMBCATASTROPHE 1 hour ago

    But it doesn’t matter since PT is impossible. So it doesn’t matter what it predicts. Further to that PT predicts subduction equal to rifting. If it were not bad enough that your theory is impossible it falls far short of showing equality when it comes to this prediction.

    I guess you have to do what you got to do to keep Jew fairy tales alive?

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  • ginckgo

    ginckgo 56 minutes ago

    The total rate of crust production at MORs is indeed balanced by the total rate of subduction plus contraction at continental collision zones, but considering the amount of times this has been pointed out, yet this rubber duckie keeps popping up, I’m guessing it won’t sink in this time either.

    However, this simple fact of crust creation being balanced by crust destruction kills the whole EE idea at it’s very start. No need to look for bizarre matter creation causes.

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  • GMBCATASTROPHE

    GMBCATASTROPHE 22 minutes ago

    Look around you dummy? What do you see hey slow-poke? You see MATTER. Everywhere you look you see matter. Even if you close your eyes you see matter. Can you deny this?

    So how did it get here? A little bit at a time like everything that must be manufactured? Or all at once like in the Jew fairy tales of Genesis and the Big Bang?

    It had to get there one way or the other. And making things takes time. A gentile manufacturer would know this. A Jew banker claps his hands and it all comes his way.

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  • GMBCATASTROPHE

    GMBCATASTROPHE 41 minutes ago

    You don’t have the evidence mate. You don’t have the evidence and you know it. Are you going to lie to the kids and say that you can prove that this hidden subduction exists?

    You are an embarrassment. That is what it is.

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  • GMBCATASTROPHE

    GMBCATASTROPHE 57 minutes ago

    You dropkick. Your claim is in fact that subduction equals expansion. Since you are denying new matter creation. Logic may not be your strong suit. Jew science is essentially the denial of the logos. Denial of a comprehensible universe that we are to perceive through reason, logic and the scientific method.

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  • Buzz Werd

    Buzz Werd 2 days ago

    The majority of people never really get science. In school the majority practice rote and regurgitate to get by then forget all but the pieces that stuck. Most never got the math or logic to understand basic science. It’s a sideshow part of their world view.

    Don’t be surprised by the idiots. Be surprised that there aren’t far more of them.

    If you expect smarter people on average, you are probably living in a selective environment and have an inflated idea of what IQ 100 means, you lucky dog.

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  • MatkoBA

    MatkoBA 2 days ago

    A person that loves science should understand the potential of EVERY theory (including the bible), because every one of them is interesting to think about. On the other hand, a person that just needs to believe (in religion or in “science”) comes to an outcome TRUE and FALSE. Because to sustain a rigid image of the world (also called dogma), you can only accept or neglect. That is why haters hate instead of thinking.

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  • tdjdk

    tdjdk 2 days ago

    The bible is not a scientific theory, no matter how much you desire it to be so. It doesn’t even qualify as a hypothesis. Science doesn’t care about what YOU see as true or false. Science doesn’t care if the answer is god or something else. Science is a method, and you are a moron for denying it.

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  • MatkoBA

    MatkoBA 1 day ago

    People like you make me sad. The trouble is if someone isn´t aware of his stupidity, he will never need to get rid of it. So tell me what harm you suffer when you for example read a different story on what you claim to know? What Idea is that dangerous, it has to be scientifically prohibited? Say hello for me next time you meet Dr. Science and keep the moron thing to yourselve, please

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  • ginckgo

    ginckgo 1 day ago

    Do you even understand the scientific method?!?

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  • MatkoBA

    MatkoBA 23 hours ago

    Tell me

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  • ginckgo

    ginckgo 4 hours ago

    I’d like to hear your understanding of it first.

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  • dwkjo

    dwkjo 2 days ago

    What does the Bible have to contribute to science?

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  • MatkoBA

    MatkoBA 1 day ago

    Whatever you want (if you want)! It was just an example… What I meant was that dividing theories in false or truth is quite a destructive method.

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  • dwkjo

    dwkjo 1 day ago

    No, it’s a scientific method. Of what value are irreparably falsified hypotheses? Some old theories can still be useful. Newtonian physics is perfectly valid in non-relativistic scenarios, but is inaccurate otherwise. However, completely falsified theories like geocentrism and Biblical flood geology have no value at all.

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  • MatkoBA

    MatkoBA 23 hours ago

    I disagree with the idea of absolute falsification of a theory. Nothing can ever prove a theory is 100% correct neither absolutely false. Observed phenomenons only support a theory or not but never “show” the truthfulness of a theory. The more Phenomenons it explains the better theory it is, however being harsh on sentencing a “FALSE” theory to death. For example “the earth is flat”. We believe to know that it is round but WHAT IF we´re just about to find out it is flat? Who will burn this time?

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  • GMBCATASTROPHE

    GMBCATASTROPHE 11 hours ago

    No good. That the heart is analogous to a pump is proven absolutely. It may be other things but it is most definitely a pump. Plate tectonics may seem to have a lot going for it but it is falsified by the fact that it is physically impossible. If growing earth isn’t fully proven now its only because it amounts to a heresy. The traditional enemies of truth don’t want to know. So if its not proven its readily provable. In case this comes up we know that Einstein’s energy and mass equation is wrong

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  • michael delaney

    michael delaney 8 hours ago

    The bible and science have one thing in common they both have an agenda so they both put a finite time frame on existence

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  • GMBCATASTROPHE

    GMBCATASTROPHE 8 hours ago

    Now you are onto it. But they are both Jew fairy tales right? You have the Big Bang Jew fairy tale and the Genesis Jew fairy tale. Other then the growing earth crowd and a few others almost everyone has fallen for these chosen one stories.

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  • ginckgo

    ginckgo 4 hours ago

    If it turned out that Sam Carey was a Jew, would you suddenly dismiss expanding earth as well?

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  • michael delaney

    michael delaney 2 hours ago

    why is everything non secular spam?

    Lets face it the Jews have an agenda and you are its obedient sentinel

    you are happily shackled to promoting ignorance

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  • ginckgo

    ginckgo 2 hours ago

    I guess it makes sense, if you believe there’s a conspiracy within science, then it’s not too far to believe there’s a jewish conspiracy as well.

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  • GMBCATASTROPHE

    GMBCATASTROPHE 53 minutes ago

    You are denying new matter creation. This is in fact your claim. So will you now admit that expansion overmatched subduction?

    Check mate motherfucker.

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  • ginckgo

    ginckgo 28 minutes ago

    Of course I deny matter creation like this. Why would new matter on this scale be created in violation of the known laws of physics? And why would said matter creation be restricted to inside the earth and not be happening all around space?

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  • GMBCATASTROPHE

    GMBCATASTROPHE 1 hour ago

    No of course not. But just when Jews were ready to start adding to the sum total of human knowledge it seems they found it easier to cut corners and pummel their wrong ideas into the rest of us.

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  • BurchTimothy

    BurchTimothy 2 days ago

    All the theories you are using to debunk are just theories. We have zero proof of any of the theories that you have accepted as fact. You guys have more blind faith than any living religious person. How about this my guess is as good as yours and vise versa.

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  • Thicite

    Thicite 2 days ago

    well, that’s mostly because “proof” isn’t what’s seeked, “evidence” is seeked, and there’s a great deal more evidence against the theory than there is for it, which in science is what they refer to, as “fucking stupid”

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  • tdjdk

    tdjdk 2 days ago

    *sigh* Science 101 yet again. Scientific theories can NEVER be proven true. Scientific theories HAVE proven themselves valid. They started off as a hypothesis, claiming to explain a vast ammount of facts (observed reality). They had to produce precise predictions about future observations, and only when tested and confirmed by pier researchers wold they ever have a chance in hell to become theories. And the 2 MOST supported theories are those of evolution and quantum mechanics. Quantum winning

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  • 13Heathens

    13Heathens 3 days ago

    The first time I watched an expanding earth video I was intrigued. So I looked into it. It took less than 30 minutes to get the information I needed to falsify it. The production quality of the presentation was great, which just goes to show that you can indeed polish a turd, but a turd it remains.

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  • dwkjo

    dwkjo 3 days ago

    I did a search and polished coprolite is actually a thing. O_o

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  • phunkracy

    phunkracy 4 days ago

    retards… conspiracy retards everywhere, even right at the comments section of a video that utterly ridicules them…

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  • GMBCATASTROPHE

    GMBCATASTROPHE 4 days ago

    Potholer must surely know he is incompetent in this task he has set himself. He gets everything wrong. He’s got an animation that is supposed to show why continents are forced apart that is obviously physically impossible. When it comes to science this fellow is a retard. He might be fine in standard journalism but he hasn’t a scientific bone in his body.

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One of the worst examples of Sinclair betraying the rest of us, by acting as loyal opposition to the more purely destructive Jews, came about during the 2008 crisis.  Now we knew how to deal with this crisis.   We had a warm-up around 97 when the South East Asian currency crisis started in Thailand.  And the ponzi-currency-traders all pulled out of these miracle economies.  And they pulled their hot money out of Australia THANK THE FUCKING LORD.  You know what Costello did? Fucking nothing.  Except for running a pretty tight ship.  The AUD  went down to about .54USD.  We never had it so good.  Our terms of trade were shit and yet we were paying our way.  We were in surplus budget and for a while in surplus trade.  Exporters were able to live off their earnings.  Without going to the bank and holding out their hands.

That crisis is when our economy was standing up and acting like a fucking economy should.  It was then that we were paying our way, and we could be proud to think that business was something that we Australians did well.

Sinclair, Andrew Leigh, Nick Gruen …. they all went through this amazing success.  Glen Stevens went through this? They saw the success of it.  What is fucking wrong with them? Even Paul Krugman commented on the benign neglect of the Australians at this time.  You know.  Back when he was an economist of sorts.

First thing that happened this time around is that Glen !@$$%^&* Stevens started buying our currency back WHY-FUCKING-WHY GLEN YOU FUCKING SELLOUT?

If we were lucky enough to have a falling currency that would have been our key way to deal with THIS 2008 crisis the same way we dealt with our 1997 crisis.

Anyway the word had gone out a little while earlier from Jew-town that crude Keynesianism was to make a comeback.  And the first emissary of this resurrection of bad ideas from the crypt was HANK PAULSON.  Frontman for the Jews and probably the greatest thief now in world history.

But our Jews were ready, tipped off and hot-to-trot.  In the world of economics all of us knew that the ideas of Keynes were dead from the neck up from the early 70′s.  We all knew this.  But Paulson was the leading edge of a worldwide Jewish putsch to put this utter bullshit back on the political agenda and the destructive-Jew debt-pushers in our country were the dirty creatures Andrew Leigh and Nick Gruen.

But how does Sinclair come into this? Well its just so fucking disgraceful that all good Gentiles will be looking for heads on pikes.  I’m going to have to take a break because its just so depressing thinking about his betrayal of the rest of us.

Now I’m back and lets check out MATADOR DAVIDSON.

20081113matador

“In summary, it is my view that the Senate should reject the fiscal stimulus package in its current format.

The package contains a lot of spending and little actual stimulus.
The proposed spending is poor quality expenditure of Federal funding. Discretionary fiscal policy has a poor track record of success.

While the government needs to respond to the current economic down turn in a timely manner, there is no immediate urgent need to rush the package. Rather a better quality package should be designed and implemented. “

If that is not a Matador, waving a red flag at the crazed Jew-Keynesian fiscal destruction bull … I don’t know quite what is.  There is no Keynesian multiplier.  If there was it would be UTTERLY useless for public policy.  If Sinclair was unclear about this, he had three years to check with me.

See the betrayal? Sinclair cannot claim ignorance.  I was with him on Catallaxy, needling him but mostly complementary to many of his efforts, until this betrayal.  Here are Jews beying for fiscal blood and their loyal opposition COMES IN AND AGREES WITH THEM. He reaffirms the non-existent Keynesian multiplier.  If he believed in the Keynesian multiplier, why in three fucking years did he not make this delusion available to me on Catallaxy so that I could help him through it.

See how these Jews work?  The blood-thirsty wreckers are there with the co-ordinated media and all the momentum, and what is Sinclair’s job? It is to reaffirm all their lies but to pretend to oppose them.  It gets worse then that as you will see if I continue to find quotes from Sinclair.   At the time he blatantly reaffirmed the veracity of the Keynesian multiplier by lazily quoting the incompetent Jew Mankiw, on something he Mankiw had written maybe 48 hours before.  As if Mankiw is some sort of authority!!!!!  Yet nowhere in the three years prior that I had contact with Sinclair did he ever profess an irrational belief in the Keynesian multiplier, nor did he offer a way to prove its existence or its efficacy if indeed it did exist.

So he’s the real enabler in this story. Not these hyped up Jews who had the tip-off and the jump on the rest of us, and were so blood engorged that they would break through sheet metal with an erect penis to spill red ink all over this country.  The Jews jacking off and thrusting through sheet metal to spend borrowed  money …. thrusting through sheet metal with their male members …. desperate to get this country in debt ….. these Jews weren’t the main problem.  The main problem was their loyal opposition. Jews like Sinclair.  Loyal opposition to the more potently damaging Jews.

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Steve Kates.  Almost As Loveable As A Persian Woman:

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But why does he always “lead with his face”?

We MUST cast a jaundiced finger at Steve Kates as well.  But more with the people who have at last brought him forward then necessarily with Steve himself.  Why does Steve always seem to explain things only halfway. Why does he set the other fellow up for the punch that he will never throw.  Why does he lead, in this boxing match, with his rather kindly face.  As if he’s supposed to block and counter by directing all blows to that face?

Why does he continue to lose the argument with the pretence that Says Law overrides monetary mischief and that aggregate demand does not matter?

A nice and intelligent Jew seeking to take a beating from stupid and malevolent Jews.  Its a hard fucking story to buy and call me cynical. Very hard story to fucking buy. Call me cynical two-times.  Kates is like Simon-The-Likeable from out of this Maxwell Smart show.  I like him I cannot help myself.  But we have to make sure he’s not Jew loyal opposition.

No-one Laid A Glove On Simon-The-Likeable. 

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But in match-ups with Keynesians, Steve tends  to lead and block with his face.  Jew loyal opposition?

Kates is a Jew and therefore suspect.  On the other hand its not inconceivable that he is blameless.  But this is the entire trick with these people.  They believe in the division of labour, when it comes to anti-Gentile mischeif.  And it seems to work for them for awhile.  Sooner or later we cannot take their destructiveness any more.  So we move them all along.  They have been moved on 109 times now.

Let Australia be the 110th glorious example.

But remember.  Any of these guys can talk to me.  If they use persuasion rather then threats, they can always get a more favourable public statement from me. I had written a thread intending to say some nasty things about Kates.  But I always wound up saying good things in the leadup and in the end I had to keep taking the same thread down.  He’s suspect for sure.  But at the very least he is an economist.  Which is so much more then I can say for the rest of the Jews in this country.  So I’m forcing myself to with-hold judgement for the mean time. Or really it went like this:  I was trying to be a hanging-judge with Steve but it just wouldn’t take. I’d needle in and out of it trying to make the case but in the end it was a wooden duck.  ”One duck that would not alight from the lake.”

But he ought to make himself a little bit beyond suspicion.  He’s made himself an authentic economist.  He has to take the next step.

Look at this. Jews at work:

In theory Sinclair is supposed to be loyal to the rest of us, in favour of small government and against all this red ink that Nick Gruen and Andrew Leigh, have pissed up against the wall. But its all crap. Sinclair as a tabernacle-nigger, just puts one foot in front of the other …. in his assigned role of loyal opposition to the agressive destroying-Jew side of the economic argument.

“In all seriousness though Andrew is a good guy and has a bright future ahead of him in politics. So if you’re looking to get into that sort of thing working for him would be a good way to get started. But it will be a short-term thing.”

Andrew is a good guy is he? He’s part of the coterie who has thrown thousands of people out of work, ended the Federal financial soundness …… that was so hard-won-by Costello ….. and Andrew has spread ridiculous fucking lies about what it takes to have financial health.

Andrew is a fucking parasitical Jew, and so Sinclair is promoting him as a good bloke who ought to be Prime Minister or a minister of cabinet. So he’s on the way up? And you want to help him along do you Sinclair? Even though you ought to know he’s been a disaster already for this country. He’s been a pestilence for the economic health of your fellow Australians. But you are NOT an Australian. Not in your own mind are you? Are you Sinclair?  You are Jew. A man cannot serve two masters and you show what your North Star is all the time.

What can we say about this? This ignorant malign fuckhead Andrew Leigh …. is already an MP. So if he’s on the way up where is he going Sinclair? Well he’s a Jew isn’t he Sinclair? So you reckon he’s destined, as a chosen one to be where? Well he’s already an MP. So you are saying he’s just destined to wind up in cabinet, or as Prime Minister BECAUSE HE’S A JEW.

Well you’ve shown your hand Sinclair buddy. You and Andrew. And you are both traitors.

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